Yes the booing trend started at Silverstone really needs to stop.

I've been trying to get a respect champaign started to stomp it out but there isn't much support.

In other news some more Kimi to Ferrari reports.

Why shouldn't fans boo? They pay their money to attend the race, they can cheer or boo whoever they like. If Vettel was the kind of person who was effected by fans booing him then I doubt he'd be the kind of person to ignore team orders and win at any cost and hence become unpopular enough to get booed. Vettel is very much like Schuey in that he'll have a huge amount of respect from fans but he won't be popular and won't get the recognition he perhaps deserves due to his on-track personality. The shame is that off-track he seems like a genuinely nice bloke with a great sense of humour. Maybe once he's won a couple more championships he'll mellow a bit and become a bit more likeable but in reality it doesn't matter. F1 is not a popularity contests so while he's winning I doubt Vettel gives a monkeys what people think of him.

There were boos for him on the podium in Canada, so it's been going on since before then. Believe it or not, the British fans aren't to blame for everything.

Tel me more about your champaign (sic), I'm genuinely interested in what you've done so far and your plans for the future.

I suspect he's already doing it. Here.

In other news, I really like Eric Boullier as a team boss, he tends to be pretty straightforward, honest and open but I think he's lost the plot over THIS.

I mean, he thinks Kimi would have had the pace to be challenging Vettel for the win if it wasn't for that pesky extra pitstop?

How's he figure that, given how Hamilton also made an extra stop, came out 10 seconds behind Kimi and yet finished the race 3 places ahead of him and around 10 seconds further up the road?

Seems like if Kimi had the pace to challenge Vettel it wouldn't have been for the win because Hamilton would have been another 10 seconds up the road.


Also, to restate the question, does anybody have any idea what the outdoor chair & desk at Monza is all about?

I've googled for it but the trouble is that so many bloody furniture makers have a "monza" range of furniture that the results are hopeless.

Because it is unsportsmanlike and a disgrace. Yes they have paid their money, but that doesn't give them carte blanche to be rude and intimidating. This is not football, it is Formula One and by its very natuire is a class above such behavoiur. I would want to take my children to a Grand Prix one day, but if this is the trend that is emerging at the circuits, I don't think I can take them. What next, throwing things at the winner?

I've started off by engaging with F1 fans and putting out the message that we should be respecting all the competitors.

Martin whitmarsh made a strange comment at the weekend when sky asked him about Ferrari slip streaming he said he'd like to get his cars in between the Ferraris and disrupt them.

What was that all about is he suggesting illegal impedance? I am highlighting this as the sort of thing which doesn't help.

+1 stop the boos

You mean like you respect ALL the drivers?

He obviously means that if he could legally get a car between the Ferraris and keep it there, they wouldn't be able to slipstream each other. It would be every bit as legitimate as what Ferrari does - tactics can be to speed up your own team's progess or to slow down the opposition.

Yeah, coming from someone like Forza Ferrari who has the biggest anti-hamilton chip on their shoulder I've probably ever seen on the internet, any comments about showing respect have to be laughed at.

But then we expect nothing less from FF.

Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha!

OK YOU start!

I had the same thought TBH.

If Massa is going to drive around giving people a tow down the straights, why should it only be Alonso who gets the advantage from it?

Why shouldn't Hamilton, Webber, Button, Rosberg or anybody else try and tuck themselves in behind Massa and get the same benefit?

That's not impeding another car. That's just taking advantage of a situation that's occuring on track.

And, of course, if that happens and the "geniuses" at Ferrari decide that it means it's not worth effort of messing around with tows then so be it.

I am not anti Lewis I just don't want him to win GPs this is a sporting thing not a personal thing against him.

Shocking how many people on here want to keep the boos.

What a load of tosh. You have spent your entire time on this thread, insulting the man at a personal level. That has nothing whatsoever to do with his abilty to win races.

Ah! So we must not be disrespectful and you get to define what is and isn't disrespectful?

Looking at the domination of the Red Bulls over the last couple of races, I think it is time to write off this year's championship and start looking at 2014. F1 got boring when Schumacher was winning 5 consecutive world championships, and we seem to be returning to that sort of regime again.

Don't get me wrong I think Vettel is a very good driver, but I now look at F1 as "can anyone stop Vettel?" rather than "who is going to win today?", I just wish there were more in the field at a similar level as him and with equally fast equipment. I regard 2013 as being pretty well over apart from handing out the silverware. Would have been good to see Webber reach the top step of the podium on a couple of occasions this year at least.

Not the most exciting of races. There was some action behind Vettel. but not that much. Both RBs had gear problems, yet still managed a 1st and 3rd place finish. I think the title is Vettels to lose. Pity the rain didnt persist at the start of the race, as that would have made it a much more exciting race.

Well done to Hulkenberg for managing to finish 5th. I thought that qualifying that high up was a fluke, and he would go backwards during the race.

Other news - Brawn has allegedly bought Toto Wolfes share of Williams. Although Brawn laughed and denied it. Kimi to be confirmed as a Ferrari driver on Wednesday, I cant see that myself. RBR are to carry out a 1000Km test this week at Spain, using the 2011 spec car with 2014 tyres. They will be using Ricciardo and their test driver (his name escapes me).



Having heard Boulliers comments after the race. He was saying if they qualified higher, they could have challenged the RBs. Obviously if they qualified higher, they would not have needed to stop for the nose cone, and would have done 1 pit stop. Based purely on race pace he does have a point. I dont think he was hinting that from 11th and with the extra stops they could have challenged. Thats how I understood it.



Had a quick look, but couldnt find anything. Maybe tweet someone like Ted Kravitz, Natalie Pinkham etc

I think there is a way to improve F1. It's a bit radical and may incur some extra cost or some employees being forced to leave the sport but in the long run it will improve the sport.

Each team has four drivers, not two. This would make it much more competitive. Imagine four of the top drivers at Red Bull. Vettel would have a real challenge to win a WC.

You would increase the number of drivers from the current 22 to 24.

The potential downside of this change would be less teams. If you have 24 drivers - divide that by 4 you get 6 teams in F1 instead of the current 11 teams. Only the most successful teams (in terms of track results) would be in F1. The lower ranked teams would be forced out. This would be a shame but a necessary move to make the sport more competitive.

I'm reasonably confident more drivers per team would make F1 more competitive and more exciting for the viewer.

S'funny, I was listening to Webber's interview yesterday and it sounded a lot like he was saying "I could really do with Seb' winning the championship sharpish so I can get a chance of a win in the last couple of races".

Kinda sad for the rest of us but I can see his point. Stick a fork in it, the title's over. Give Vettel his plate and let Webber have a shot at victory in Abu Dhabi, Austin or Sau Paulo.

That's a bloody good idea.

I shall get right on it.

Kinda thought that maybe FF, being the tifosi that he allegedly is, might have had some idea though.

LOL! That's a good one!

Rude and intimidating? Please, be serious. It's pantomime booing from a partisan Italian crowd against the driver who beat their man and who has lost fans' goodwill through his unsportsmanlike conduct earlier in the season.

F1 is a class above such behaviour? Drivers ignoring team orders, deliberately driving into each other with total disregard for each other's safety? F1 has always had it's fair share of unsavory incidents and the fans have always been partisan, no different to football. The main difference is you don't get fans shouting obscenities at the competitors. They tend to keep it to a bit of booing. I've been to GPs since the 80's and it's always happened. I remember in 90's in the Schuey v Hill era when we Brits made it very clear to MS what we thought of him.

Sorry in qualifying it is against the rules and illegal to slow the other cars down. This is called impeding or blocking we saw somebody get a penalty for it at the weekend although it wasn't intentional there is an actual obligation not to block faster cars during qualifying.

Really not sure the BBC could be sticking any rubbish on the screen hardly seams worth obsessing about.

The most obvious reference would be to Enzo Ferrari's office which is a sacred Ferrari site. Although this remains as far as I am aware preserved in an unchanged state at Marinelo a half formed version in the grass at Monza seams unlikely.

Since your research brought up a number of furniture stores in the area is it half possible it was part of an advert and the BBC filmed it not knowning what it was.