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This is why I removed the Sports section feed from my BBC home page. Job done.
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Personally I either listen to the coverage on 5live (and then if there's a major incident or the race goes my way I can do whatever until the highlights come on) or I just avoid all news/sport websites & the news and sport bulletins on the TV until the highlights start.
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Ten second moan...
Why, oh why do the BBC on their news website splash across the headlines the result of the GP. Some of us out here don't have Sky and would like to watch the highlights on the BBC without knowing the result. It's not the first time they have done it, would it not be possible to have the result still available on the website but through the Sport/ Formula One link? As it is, with the BBC news being my home page, when I open my browser the last thing I want to see is the result... The days of the BBC news being my home page are over... Simples As if that was all we could possibly be interested in. And if you think i'm making this up, I'm not!
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Bernie Ecclestone offers a court 60 million to end his bribery trial. By bribing them.
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Bernie Ecclestone offers a court 60 million to end his bribery trial. By bribing them.
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from German news, Vettel's 2011 championship-winning car caught fire recently. Robotic translation Quote:
Vettel's championship-winning car catches fire
Sebastian Vettel's championship winning car of 2011 with nickname "Kinky Kylie" has caught fire at a show event. In the Russian Chelyabinsk English GP3 driver Alex Lynn was at the wheel of the RB7, as this was suddenly in flames. The security personnel put out the fire after a few seconds, Lynn got out uninjured out of the cars, with the eleven Vettel wins this season and had celebrated his second of four World Championship titles. Blame for the incident to have been a leak in the fuel line. |
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What's the difference between a bribe and a settlement, a different coloured envelope?
![]() A smart move by Bernie, even if he is innocent. Hes got billions why risk prison, when you can settle for what is essentially his kids inheritance? |
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At least Ecclestone's consistent, everything is about money.
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Even if he is innocent?!? I think that by bribing the court he's proved once and for all that he will bribe anyone, anywhere
I can't believe they don't see the irony of this, but then I guess £60 mill will make anyone look the other way.
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Even if he is innocent?!? I think that by bribing the court he's proved once and for all that he will bribe anyone, anywhere
I can't believe they don't see the irony of this, but then I guess £60 mill will make anyone look the other way.
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Wonder if he could have done that had the trial been in the UK? sounds an awful thing giving money in exchange in effect to stop a trial,seems against the role of justice to me.
![]() The bloke who took the bribe got 8 years in jail, presumably he didn't have enough spare cash to fork up £60m within a week. |
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Bernie Ecclestone offers a court 60 million to end his bribery trial. By bribing them.
Even better, he will get some of the money back if its used to build an F1 track. |
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It does, apparently it is usually done before a trial starts not midway through. Former Justice Minister Sabine Leutheusser-Schnarrenberger criticised the use of the loophole in the Ecclestone case, saying it was "not just bad taste - it's really insolent. It allowed rich people to go free, whereas the less well-heeled could face prison".
The bloke who took the bribe got 8 years in jail, presumably he didn't have enough spare cash to fork up £60m within a week. Yes the way this has been done stinks of injustice to me. |
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£60m is pocket money to Bernie. He will probably write it off as an expense and get his accountant to offset it against his next tax bill!
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Wonder if he could have done that had the trial been in the UK? sounds an awful thing giving money in exchange in effect to stop a trial,seems against the role of justice to me.
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It does, apparently it is usually done before a trial starts not midway through. Former Justice Minister Sabine Leutheusser-Schnarrenberger criticised the use of the loophole in the Ecclestone case, saying it was "not just bad taste - it's really insolent. It allowed rich people to go free, whereas the less well-heeled could face prison".
The bloke who took the bribe got 8 years in jail, presumably he didn't have enough spare cash to fork up £60m within a week. I do agree, paying money to get of is wrong, very wrong. Surprised the Germans have such a law. |
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It demonstrates consistency... get off a bribery charge by paying a bigger bribe.
And who says the Germans don't have a sense of humour. |
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Maybe the prosection offered the deal, as they could see that Bernies team put up a good argument and may have got off. I cant imagine the prosecution offered the deal if they were confident they were going to win. |
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Even if he is innocent?!? I think that by bribing the court he's proved once and for all that he will bribe anyone, anywhere
I can't believe they don't see the irony of this, but then I guess £60 mill will make anyone look the other way.To be clear, I'm not saying that's my opinion of Bernie (I happen to think he talks a lot of sense most of the time) but if that's the way the jurors feel about him (or rich folks in general), you never know what they'll do out of spite, regardless of the facts. Hell, if the jury was made up of average DS members they'd probably want to see him shot, stabbed, burned at the stake and then salt the ground where he was buried just for being filthy-rich, regardless of whether he did it or not. |
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To view a German court's settlement/arrangement as bribing a court shows a lack of knowledge or acceptance of a perfectly legal outcome of a trial under a judicial system other than the English system. This sort of conclusion to a trial is not uniquely German.
It is not dissimilar to an "out of court" settlement except that the recipient of the amount can be the state or a charity instead of the other party when one party is suing another. It is generally applied under circumstances where the cost of the trial outweighs the expected result. It can mean that both prosecution and defence understand the complexities, duration, costs and other factors to a trial and recognise the futility of continuing a case. Consider the Scots verdict of "Not Proven", this could possibly have been the outcome if Bernie's trial had it been heard under Scots Law and the result is far more useful to the state (or charity) than "Not Proven". The amount of the settlement has been reported as taking Bernie's wealth into account. |
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The bank have rejected the 60 million settlement
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Breaking News (bbc)
Unnecessary repetition
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Motorsport News have got a small piece this week quoting Bernie who wants to see standing re-starts dropped for next year, "What we saw in Budapest was good enough." He was talking to Auto Motor und Sport.
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The bank have rejected the 60 million settlement
Ecclestone had offered the bank £20m to settle any claim it may have against him, it rejected the offer. It remains to be seen if the bank will take legal action against Ecclestone. |
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Clicky!
What a world we live in. ![]() Terrible that this has led to a death but, then again, it's also terrible that we live in a world where people think that anything is fair game without stopping to think about the morals of what they're doing or the possible consequences. |
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Any ideas on the odds I'd get on this bet as an accumulator for next year?
Vettel to Mercedes. Alonso to McLaren. Hamilton to Ferrari.
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I can't believe they don't see the irony of this, but then I guess £60 mill will make anyone look the other way.