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Official Formula 1 Thread (Part 8)
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Fudd
05-10-2014
Bianchi's been taken to hospital - Ferrari Twitter update on BBC website.
Si_Crewe
05-10-2014
Eddie Jordan is terrific isn't he?

At Singapore he was saying Hamilton had won the "mental battle" and it'd take a miracle for Rosberg to win.
After quali' he was saying Hamilton had "broken under pressure" and the advantage was with Rosberg again.
And now he's saying that Hamilton has the advantage and there's no way Rosberg can win.

I dunno if he just comes out with this stuff for the sake of the casual viewers but, geez, if he's like that all the time, imagine what it must've been like to work at the Jordan team?

Gotta love him though, eh?
roger_50
05-10-2014
Hamilton is such a superior racer to Rosberg it hurts. There's still a chance Rosberg could get lucky and take the title, but it would be a bit of a travesty if he did.

Hope Bianchi's okay.
Fudd
05-10-2014
Originally Posted by Si_Crewe:
“Eddie Jordan is terrific isn't he?

At Singapore he was saying Hamilton had won the "mental battle" and it'd take a miracle for Rosberg to win.
After quali' he was saying Hamilton had "broken under pressure" and the advantage was with Rosberg again.
And now he's saying that Hamilton has the advantage and there's no way Rosberg can win.

I dunno if he just comes out with this stuff for the sake of the casual viewers but, geez, if he's like that all the time, imagine what it must've been like to work at the Jordan team?

Gotta love him though, eh? ”

Even a broken clock is right twice a day - he may have got it spot on this time around!
supernovadragon
05-10-2014
Being an avid Formula 1 fan since I watched my first race in 1997 when I was 12, I don't care about the result or anything else...all I can think and hope is Jules Bianchi is ok. What has happened is truly awful
Sabre92
05-10-2014
How people can just blazenly discuss the result and the championship battle when we have no news about Bianchi is beyond me. The result is irrelevant at the moment.
Cassie..
05-10-2014
Really worried about Jules. Hope he is ok. The images of the crash worry me.
TVScourge
05-10-2014
Originally Posted by Sabre92:
“How people can just blazenly discuss the result and the championship battle when we have no news about Bianchi is beyond me. The result is irrelevant at the moment.”

What do you expect them to do? You just said yourself we have no news. Why should we be forced to speculate?
corh5
05-10-2014
Originally Posted by Sabre92:
“How people can just blazenly discuss the result and the championship battle when we have no news about Bianchi is beyond me. The result is irrelevant at the moment.”

I wonder if its because no one has seen the incident which is unusual in today's age, not even the extent of the damage, not that that would necessarily mean how bad about he accident was.
Mythica
05-10-2014
Originally Posted by Sabre92:
“How people can just blazenly discuss the result and the championship battle when we have no news about Bianchi is beyond me. The result is irrelevant at the moment.”

They have a job to do. What do you want them to do, talk about an accident they have no further information on?
Si_Crewe
05-10-2014
Originally Posted by Sabre92:
“How people can just blazenly discuss the result and the championship battle when we have no news about Bianchi is beyond me. The result is irrelevant at the moment.”

How about the TV pundits?

Do you expect them to just stand there, silently, until Bianchi's situation is clarified?
Sabre92
05-10-2014
Originally Posted by Si_Crewe:
“How about the TV pundits?

Do you expect them to just stand there, silently, until Bianchi's situation is clarified?”

I just think it's insensitive for people to be discussing it as though nothing's happened. The safety of the drivers is more important than any result.
Si_Crewe
05-10-2014
Originally Posted by Sabre92:
“I just think it's insensitive for people to be discussing it as though nothing's happened. The safety of the drivers is more important than any result.”

Is it more important than criticising people on an internet forum?
DJTekno
05-10-2014
Originally Posted by Sabre92:
“I just think it's insensitive for people to be discussing it as though nothing's happened. The safety of the drivers is more important than any result.”

Ah...you gotta love a bit of self-righteous indignation in the morning...

#GetOverYourself
TVScourge
05-10-2014
This race should have started a few hours earlier. If you're an ardent fan you'd get up at 4am to watch anyway. But noooo Bernie chose this time. Things would have been different.
gomezz
05-10-2014
Althought there was no SC out there would have been yellow flags, yellow lights and a warning on the car display to alert the drivers to take care. It seems Bianchi is paying a heavy price for something which in part at least he was responsible.

(I speak as someone who has suffered from others ignoring yellow flags)
Mythica
05-10-2014
Originally Posted by Sabre92:
“I just think it's insensitive for people to be discussing it as though nothing's happened. The safety of the drivers is more important than any result.”

They aren't certainly not on Sky anyway. There is a lot of talk about his well being. The accident has already happened, they can't do anything for his safety.
DJTekno
05-10-2014
Originally Posted by gomezz:
“Althought there was no SC out there would have been yellow flags, yellow lights and a warning on the car display to alert the drivers to take care. It seems Bianchi is paying a heavy price for something which in part at least he was responsible.”

Agree to a point...sounds like from interviews that there were double-waved yellows at the incident.

That said, once you start to aquaplane, you're a total passenger, so to at least try to apportion blame at this point seems a little harsh...
Thomas007
05-10-2014
Originally Posted by Si_Crewe:
“If that's the case, it kinda makes you wonder how come Rosberg has clung onto the championship lead for so long.”

Suppose we get a 1-2 Hamilton/Rosberg finish for the next 3 races, increasing his lead to 31 points. Hamilton retires at Abu Dhabi and Rosberg wins, oh man the reaction to that would be just hilarious to watch.
Mythica
05-10-2014
Originally Posted by gomezz:
“Althought there was no SC out there would have been yellow flags, yellow lights and a warning on the car display to alert the drivers to take care. It seems Bianchi is paying a heavy price for something which in part at least he was responsible.

(I speak as someone who has suffered from others ignoring yellow flags)”

Why not try waiting to see what actually happened.
Mystical123
05-10-2014
Originally Posted by Sabre92:
“I just think it's insensitive for people to be discussing it as though nothing's happened. The safety of the drivers is more important than any result.”

No one is though, they've mentioned lots of times that they're waiting for news on Bianchi. And everyone is subdued, as was clear from the very classy way Hamilton, Rosberg and Vettel dealt with the podium ceremony.

And no-one's actually seen the incident - it took about 10 minutes to even realise it had happened. So no-one knows how serious it is, and in any case they shouldn't be speculating.

What would be disrespectful is speculating about what happened or about Bianchi's condition. Not what everyone is doing now. Everyone, I hope, is thinking about him and hoping he's ok.
Si_Crewe
05-10-2014
Originally Posted by TVScourge:
“This race should have started a few hours earlier. If you're an ardent fan you'd get up at 4am to watch anyway. But noooo Bernie chose this time. Things would have been different.”

Does make you wonder, doesn't it?

I mean, there's now a rule which says that the maximum duration of a race is 4 hours so surely logic dictates you start every race at least 4 hours before local sunset?

Apparently, the "main" reason for keeping the original start time was because bullet-train tickets are booked for a specific train so people attending the race couldn't just get on a train 2 hours earlier without buying a new ticket.

Seems a bit thin to me.
One assumes ticket bookings can be amended.
rustybucket
05-10-2014
Originally Posted by TVScourge:
“This race should have started a few hours earlier. If you're an ardent fan you'd get up at 4am to watch anyway. But noooo Bernie chose this time. Things would have been different.”

You can't blame Bernie for this one. Blame Honda who have control of Suzuka and the decision was made by them to stage normal time. Edit: I meant for this actual race as the option was given to the local organisers to change time.
Mystical123
05-10-2014
Originally Posted by TVScourge:
“This race should have started a few hours earlier. If you're an ardent fan you'd get up at 4am to watch anyway. But noooo Bernie chose this time. Things would have been different.”

The circuit organisers refused to change the time, it seems, so Honda are partly to blame as well. It should have started earlier, no doubt about that.


Originally Posted by gomezz:
“Althought there was no SC out there would have been yellow flags, yellow lights and a warning on the car display to alert the drivers to take care. It seems Bianchi is paying a heavy price for something which in part at least he was responsible.

(I speak as someone who has suffered from others ignoring yellow flags)”

Sorry, but I think that's a highly inappropriate post. You say you've suffered from others ignoring yellow flags, so presumably you understand the concept of aquaplaning then, and how sometimes you simply become a passenger?

Good grief, have a little respect, we don't know what condition Bianchi is in, and none of us have seen what actually happened. No point in apportioning blame in that circumstance no matter what the condition of the driver, never mind when someone's in hospital!
Si_Crewe
05-10-2014
Originally Posted by Thomas007:
“Suppose we get a 1-2 Hamilton/Rosberg finish for the next 3 races, increasing his lead to 31 points. Hamilton retires at Abu Dhabi and Rosberg wins, oh man the reaction to that would be just hilarious to watch.”

It is a bit of a crazy situation to risk happening.

I mean, with a difference of 7 points between 1st and 2nd, 50 points for a win in AD effectively wipes out the advantage gained by seven victories.
So, Hamilton wins, theoretically, 11 races this year to Rosberg's 5 and Rosberg takes the championship if his 5th win comes in AD 'cos Hamilton has a DNF?
That can't be the right way to do things, can it?
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