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#5976 |
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At the moment we all have no information about how Bianchi was driving and so there is no point speculating to what extent he respected the yellow flags.
In wet conditions the cars can spin regardless of how tentative the drivers are. Old inter's, standing water, poor visibility. Yellow flags mean you've got less downforce and cooler brakes and tyres. Seems like of of those times when you're stuck between a rock and a hard place. I suppose, if there's any procedural fault it's that, under waved yellow flags, in wet condition, the datum time for the drivers to stick to should have been much, much, lower so that the cars could drive through there (and be capable of stopping safely) using purely mechanical grip. |
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I think there is a chance Marrucia will only have one car at the next GP.
but if they do race with two who is their 3rd driver as bbc and sky always go on about top teams the lower ones get very little coverage so you never get to know their staff or other drivers., its all about redbull and hamilton |
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http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/formula1/29499545
Bianchi out of surgery and breathing unaided moved to intensive care information for the BBC. |
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http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/formula1/29499545
Bianchi out of surgery and breathing unaided moved to intensive care information for the BBC. Let's hope he can make a good recovery. |
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Thats good news, all the best to Bianchi
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i was thinking that too, maybe they will not race at all.
but if they do race with two who is their 3rd driver as bbc and sky always go on about top teams the lower ones get very little coverage so you never get to know their staff or other drivers., its all about redbull and hamilton I don't think they will rush to replace him out of respect and it would likely be a big challenge to build a new car between fly aways for a team with their resources. Having to do it this close to the end of the season makes it worse to. Your right about it being a shame that there is often less attention for one end of the grid. Sky were quick to pick up what happened. The BBC were confused about what was happening even after the red flag. It's understandable but Bianchi out was on the race computer but it didn't ping on their radar as hes not a front runner. |
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I suppose, if there's any procedural fault it's that, under waved yellow flags, in wet condition, the datum time for the drivers to stick to should have been much, much, lower so that the cars could drive through there (and be capable of stopping safely) using purely mechanical grip. It provides a lot of safety only effects part of the track and is enforceable with few grey areas. |
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i was thinking that too, maybe they will not race at all.
but if they do race with two who is their 3rd driver as bbc and sky always go on about top teams the lower ones get very little coverage so you never get to know their staff or other drivers., its all about redbull and hamilton What a terrible situation they are in. Marussia have just signed a new young British driver in Will Stevens so it would be an amazing shock for him to get a drive in Russia. There other named reserve driver is Alexander Rossi. So I guess one of those two will race if they are fielding two cars. |
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i was thinking that too, maybe they will not race at all.
but if they do race with two who is their 3rd driver as bbc and sky always go on about top teams the lower ones get very little coverage so you never get to know their staff or other drivers., its all about redbull and hamilton Will Stevens doesn't have a Superlicence. |
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I would not be surprised if Rubens offers to be available.
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Marussia will probably promote a reserve, which would be Alexander Rossi.
Will Stevens doesn't have a Superlicence. |
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totally OTT from Sky
F1 Broadcasting @f1broadcasting 55m55 minutes ago Update to earlier - @SkySportsF1 have now pulled all programming until at least 13:00 tomorrow afternoon. #SkyF1 |
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Some details of Bianchi's crash starting to come out. The picture is of Bianchi still in the car which most of us have likely seen by now. There is a video of the crash currently withheld.
http://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/bi...crash-emerge/? |
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just seen this, shows recovery vehicles at risk even under SC
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TCST...be&app=desktop the driver of this one was dangerous in what he did https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yy68y5Bn9Kk |
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totally OTT from Sky
F1 Broadcasting @f1broadcasting 55m55 minutes ago Update to earlier - @SkySportsF1 have now pulled all programming until at least 13:00 tomorrow afternoon. #SkyF1 |
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Completely OTT and unnecessary. What's the point? It's not as if it's disrespectful or graphic - we didn't actually see the crash live! BBC One has shown the replay and highlights are currently on BBC Three.
Credit to sky they exceeded their own standards realising what had happened and being in tune with the seriousness of what had happened. Now they are waiting for events to unfold and take the time to decide how best to treat the material before revisiting it. |
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I do see the point in what sky have done. Having watched the replay on the BBC it was strange and out of place as they didn't know what was happening at the time and looking back at it with more information made the original presentation look out of context. They added a wrap up filmed later in full view of the facts and Eddie Jordan did a good job speaking nicely about Bianchi as a person and a racing driver.
Credit to sky they exceeded their own standards realising what had happened and being in tune with the seriousness of what had happened. Now they are waiting for events to unfold and take the time to decide how best to treat the material before revisiting it. |
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Andrea de Cesaris killed in a non-motorsport bike crash today. What a day.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/formula1/29501069 |
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There are also now conflicting news about Bianchi
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And a crap day for us F1 fans has just become even crapier. Andrea De Cesaris has died in a motorbike accident.
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Well there was still a Grand Prix. I don't know anyone who would think that replaying the race or showing highlights would be in bad taste. I think it is a very odd decision, and they have obligations to the people who subscribe to their channel.
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There are also now conflicting news about Bianchi
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What do you mean by this what I've seen is quite consistent.
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Social media isn't really a reliable source of information so just use reputable web sites who are able to quote sources and everything else is speculation or opinion.
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Just before Bianchi crash why didn't Race Control Stop the Race because of Failing Light, they where over maximum required Laps to get full points
![]() Thoughts are with Jules & family hope is going be ok |
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