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Bianchi said to be set to have a second operation.
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Sutil had aquaplaned off. In the past we have seen races where several cars have aquaplaning off in the exact same place.
At one race a driver was at risk when he was getting out of his car and another came crashing in towards him. I don't think the recovery vehicle should have been there. Hindsight? Quote:
"Going to the scene of the accident" is the phrase often used by Brundle, and was just a flippant way of saying "Having an accident". It was never intended to describe the scenario we've seen here, with a car hitting an existing crash scene.
I think he does mean it as he said though more as a 'sympathy' crash, where you follow the driver in front of you off the track as you're focusing so hard on what they're doing.Quote:
the driver of this one was dangerous in what he did
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yy68y5Bn9Kk I hope he's alright. The news of the potential second operation is not good at all.
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"The driver" in question being Jules Bianchi. What did he do wrong - return to the car after leaving it?
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I hope he's alright. The news of the potential second operation is not good at all. ![]() Right now we've got to just keep waiting and we will find out more when people are ready to tell us more. |
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"Going to the scene of the accident" is the phrase often used by Brundle, and was just a flippant way of saying "Having an accident". It was never intended to describe the scenario we've seen here, with a car hitting an existing crash scene.
It's just a fanciful way of describing the sort of crash where a driver loses control and becomes little more than a passenger in a car that's heading toward an inevitable impact. Some people just read too much into these things. |
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Andrea De Cesaris had died in a motorbike accident, RIP
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Bianchi now said to not to be breathing unaided. It sounds like this report was mistaken from the out set rather than this is a change in his condition.
Lets hope there is a positive update later today. |
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They just said on Sky news that it's not true he's had a second operation and that he's not breathing for himself. I'm sure she said not but maybe (hopefully) I heard wrong.
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Sky sports news has just said contrary to reports he is not breathing unaided. Injuries remind me of schui's skiing accident earlier this year, I hope the outcome is more positive.
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It seems to me the real issue is having a recovery vehicle trackside with cars still racing. You can design safety features into F1 cars, have run off areas to scrub off speed and barriers that can absorb an impact but it is all negated when you have a solid metal vehicle entering the arena.
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It seems to me the real issue is having a recovery vehicle trackside with cars still racing. You can design safety features into F1 cars, have run off areas to scrub off speed and barriers that can absorb an impact but it is all negated when you have a solid metal vehicle entering the arena.
I hope nobody takes this the wrong way (although I fear they will) but waved yellow flags, if their meaning is truly being observed, should be sufficient. The problem in this case seems to be that rather than slowing down sufficiently that they were able to stop if required bearing in mind the prevailing weather conditions, the drivers were just "backing off a bit". I suppose there's always the possibility that you might have, perhaps, one car crash and then another car suffer a jammed throttle and/or failed brakes and go ploughing into the other car, marshals or a rescue vehicle but when a fully-functional car falls off the track under yellow flags then clearly the driver isn't actually obeying the intent of the yellow flags. Perhaps the way forward would be for all drivers to have to engage their pit-lane limiters whenever they're going through a section of track controlled by waved yellows? A first waved yellow would be an indication for a driver to slow down and engage the limiter and any driver who failed to comply by the time they went past a 2nd waved yellow (verified via telemetry) gets black-flagged? |
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Not entirely sure about that.
I hope nobody takes this the wrong way (although I fear they will) but waved yellow flags, if their meaning is truly being observed, should be sufficient. The problem in this case seems to be that rather than slowing down sufficiently that they were able to stop if required bearing in mind the prevailing weather conditions, the drivers were just "backing off a bit". I suppose there's always the possibility that you might have, perhaps, one car crash and then another car suffer a jammed throttle and/or failed brakes and go ploughing into the other car, marshals or a rescue vehicle but when a fully-functional car falls off the track under yellow flags then clearly the driver isn't actually obeying the intent of the yellow flags. Perhaps the way forward would be for all drivers to have to engage their pit-lane limiters whenever they're going through a section of track controlled by waved yellows? A first waved yellow would be an indication for a driver to slow down and engage the limiter and any driver who failed to comply by the time they went past a 2nd waved yellow (verified via telemetry) gets black-flagged? Anyway up until the dreadful accident it was an exciting race thanks to the rain. |
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Sutil suggests the particular corner is established as particularly difficult when grip becomes an issue and the moment his accident occurred, could have been the appropriate time to conclude the race as the 40 lap point had been achieved.
We don't know anything about the cause of poor Bianci's subsequent collision and should wait for the facts to become known. In the meantime, the press shouldn't speculate on his condition and as with other such matters, wait for either the family, hospital, or appointed representatives to state the facts. Can only hope for a successful outcome. |
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Just saw the real video of Bianchi crashing wish i didnt.
Official Statement from the hospital says Bianchi is an critical condition but stable |
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Just saw the real video of Bianchi crashing wish i didnt.
Official Statement from the hospital says Bianchi is an critical condition but stable |
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Where did you see that?
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On youtube but has been deleted now it was a video by fan. Looked a very horrible crash
The photos made me feel sick. |
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Just saw the real video of Bianchi crashing wish i didnt.
Official Statement from the hospital says Bianchi is an critical condition but stable |
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Critical but stable according to the BBC (via the FIA)
Lets hope he can make a full recovery. |
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https://www.facebook.com/video.php?v=10202528574325113
This video has popped up on my Facebook. Is quite nasty. Lifts the recovery truck off the ground. |
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Very fortunate (or not
) he wasn't killed outright.
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Very fortunate (or not
) he wasn't killed outright.6 inches to the right and Bianchi probably would not of had a scratch on him. |
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Also amazing that none of the marshals were hurt.
6 inches to the right and Bianchi probably would not of had a scratch on him. |
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https://www.facebook.com/video.php?v=10202528574325113
This video has popped up on my Facebook. Is quite nasty. Lifts the recovery truck off the ground. |
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https://www.facebook.com/video.php?v=10202528574325113
This video has popped up on my Facebook. Is quite nasty. Lifts the recovery truck off the ground. |
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I think he does mean it as he said though more as a 'sympathy' crash, where you follow the driver in front of you off the track as you're focusing so hard on what they're doing.