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Official Formula 1 Thread (Part 8)
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Si_Crewe
24-05-2015
Originally Posted by Scuderia92:
“What about Rosbergs pace up until the safety car. He had no answer what so ever”

Did it occur to you that the problem is simply following another car, regardless of who the driver is?
Forza Ferrari
24-05-2015
Lol dumbest thing I've ever seen worse than China 2007.

It's monaco babey always stay out never give up track position.

Arrogance from Mercedes trying to do a free stop. Don't they remember Vettel on the worse Pirells fallen off the cliff and held everybody up.

Get on with it Lewis stop doing everything slow trying to miss the podium.
Si_Crewe
24-05-2015
Be interesting to see what Rosberg's podium interview is going to be like.

I'm pretty sure we can guess what Hamilton's is going to be like.
Forza Ferrari
24-05-2015
Come on Lewis stop walking away.
Si_Crewe
24-05-2015
Not the best advert for F1 when Vettel is admitting, in the podium interview, that neither he or Rosberg were really pushing on the hard tyres and were, basically, just holding-station.
stono
24-05-2015
Originally Posted by Forza Ferrari:
“Come on Lewis stop walking away.”

yeah its stuff like this when people ask me why I dont warm to Lewis as a driver, and the stop at Portier wanted to go home stuff (as is now being claimed), its just grow up we know you are disappointed, but sometimes teams make mistakes, drivers make mistakes too, it happens and its how you deal with that adversity, not how you deal with being made 100million dollars thats counts.


I also cant believe Lauda/Wolf, yes you mucked up so Lewis didnt win, but err you still won the race guys, still finished with 2 drivers on the podium, no need to make out like heads will roll for it surely.
Forza Ferrari
24-05-2015
Are sky missing Buttons first points for Mclaren with all this lewis didn't win one GP incredulation.
Si_Crewe
24-05-2015
Originally Posted by stono:
“I also cant believe Lauda/Wolf, yes you mucked up so Lewis didnt win, but err you still won the race guys, still finished with 2 drivers on the podium, no need to make out like heads will roll for it surely.”

Seems fairly reasonable to be contrite when your engineers screwed-up and it cost one of your drivers the win, even if it's another one of your drivers who inherited the win.
Stunty
24-05-2015
All the commentators are having a real go at Mercedes ....... Ok so hindsight is a wonderful thing.

However, the driver's these days are so led by the nose with the pit to car radio, giving instructions, what to do and advice on other drivers, it seems they no longer can think for themselves.

I hate all this communication during a race, some of it is ludicrous which is why I love Rainkonen's cutting responses like 'Yeah, yeah, I know how to drive'.

Seems like too much information has lost Lewis the race.
Si_Crewe
24-05-2015
Originally Posted by Forza Ferrari:
“Are sky missing Buttons first points for Mclaren with all this lewis didn't win one GP incredulation.”

Perhaps the winners and podium are considered more newsworthy than the guy who finished in 8th?
Forza Ferrari
24-05-2015
Originally Posted by stono:
“yeah its stuff like this when people ask me why I dont warm to Lewis as a driver, and the stop at Portier wanted to go home stuff (as is now being claimed), its just grow up we know you are disappointed, but sometimes teams make mistakes, drivers make mistakes too, it happens and its how you deal with that adversity, not how you deal with being made 100million dollars thats counts.


I also cant believe Lauda/Wolf, yes you mucked up so Lewis didnt win, but err you still won the race guys, still finished with 2 drivers on the podium, no need to make out like heads will roll for it surely.”

Yip all this falling over their self's to say sorry is a bit embarrassing. If Lewis had a bit more race craft and was the great team leader he claims to be he should have made the call himself and said I am no stopping.
Forza Ferrari
24-05-2015
Originally Posted by Stunty:
“All the commentators are having a real go at Mercedes ....... Ok so hindsight is a wonderful thing.”

Oh there is to be a scape goat now. Lets sack somebody.
Stunty
24-05-2015
David Croft is a bit of a numpty tweeting the Mercedes team asking, mid race, why they brought Lewis in ........ As if they were ever going to reply.


Please now, leave Mercedes alone, we know what happened, stop going on and on about it you know it all lot.
Si_Crewe
24-05-2015
Originally Posted by Stunty:
“All the commentators are having a real go at Mercedes ....... Ok so hindsight is a wonderful thing.

However, the driver's these days are so led by the nose with the pit to car radio, giving instructions, what to do and advice on other drivers, it seems they no longer can think for themselves.

I hate all this communication during a race, some of it is ludicrous which is why I love Rainkonen's cutting responses like 'Yeah, yeah, I know how to drive'.

Seems like too much information has lost Lewis the race.”

Seems like quite the opposite here.

Hamilton can't see Rosberg, behind him, so he has no idea if Rosberg is 10 seconds behind, or 20 seconds or a whole minute behind so it's not like Hamilton can make a decision like that.
All he can do is rely on the engineers.

Baffling thing is why Mercedes would decide to change a set of tyres that he was planning on running to the end of the race anyway at all.
Forza Ferrari
24-05-2015
Originally Posted by Stunty:
“David Croft is a bit of a numpty tweeting the Mercedes team asking, mid race, why they brought Lewis in ........ As if they were ever going to reply.


Please now, leave Mercedes alone, we know what happened, stop going on and on about it you know it all lot.”

Hold on this has affected Hamilton don't expect anything else to be discussed.
Mythica
24-05-2015
Originally Posted by Forza Ferrari:
“Yip all this falling over their self's to say sorry is a bit embarrassing. If Lewis had a bit more race craft and was the great team leader he claims to be he should have made the call himself and said I am no stopping.”

In which case you'd be on here calling him all names under the sun for not listening to the team just because you don't like him. Leave it out, it's getting boring.
Scuderia92
24-05-2015
Originally Posted by Si_Crewe:
“You seem rather, erm, conflicted.”

It was sarcastic. Lewis wants to lead the team we all know that
Stunty
24-05-2015
Originally Posted by Si_Crewe:
“Seems like quite the opposite here.

Hamilton can't see Rosberg, behind him, so he has no idea if Rosberg is 10 seconds behind, or 20 seconds or a whole minute behind so it's not like Hamilton can make a decision like that.
All he can do is rely on the engineers.

Baffling thing is why Mercedes would decide to change a set of tyres that he was planning on running to the end of the race anyway at all.”

The old pit board hung over the railings used to be fine at telling the driver's the gap.
Scuderia92
24-05-2015
Originally Posted by Si_Crewe:
“Did it occur to you that the problem is simply following another car, regardless of who the driver is?”

He didnt have the pace of Hamilton. Simple As
Scuderia92
24-05-2015
Although i do dislike Hamilton and support Ferrari you do have to feel for Hamilton. Poor strategic decision cost him but you win and lose as a team!
Forza Ferrari
24-05-2015
In the FIA press conference it sounds like it was Hamilton's call.
Stunty
24-05-2015
Considering the circumstances and the questions to Lewis he has responded very well in a grown up fashion.

In the past I have not liked his 'hound dog poor me' attitude however seems he's grown up. ..... well perhaps he has had PR coaching!!


Now Natalie is asking him 'is it really alright' ...... what does she want him to do, chuck something against a wall and stamp his feet? It happened, he can't change it, so he has accepted it, unlike the Sky lot. That Simon is seriously irritating.
Si_Crewe
24-05-2015
Originally Posted by Stunty:
“The old pit board hung over the railings used to be fine at telling the driver's the gap. ”

And what input did the driver have into that?

I seem to recall that, as well as the gaps, pitboards also display messages like "PIT".
yellowlabbie
24-05-2015
Just maybe they did it to liven up the race because Lewis was slaughtering them all again, it's becoming embarrassing how much better he is than everyone else. Or maybe they just wanted to get Rosberg the 3 wins.
Si_Crewe
24-05-2015
Originally Posted by Scuderia92:
“He didnt have the pace of Hamilton. Simple As”

Is that sarcasm as well?

Seems like Rosberg built a gap over Hamilton when it was Hamilton who was stuck behind Vettel, in just the same way that the reverse happened earlier on.

As a Ferrari fan it might be difficult to grasp, but not all teams use their following driver to protect the leading car.
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