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Official Formula 1 Thread (Part 8)
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JSemple3
06-09-2015
Originally Posted by nainz:
“OMG I've been so nervous for Hamilton's engine for the last 5 laps! FGFT!”

Mercedes being cagey about what the problem actually was..........hm
nainz
06-09-2015
Originally Posted by JSemple3:
“Mercedes being cagey about what the problem actually was..........hm”

Probably just putting on a show for the tv viewers after a boring end to the race, but then Rosberg's engine went and I was like
JSemple3
06-09-2015
Christ the italian fans are rather passionate ain't they
pork.pie
06-09-2015
Are they about to ensure that the season stays interesting?
BinaryDad
06-09-2015
Rumour is that Ham's tires were below the recommended pressure and that Merc were trying to cover a time penalty by building a gap.

**Edit**

Merc are under investigation - Rosberg's tires were 1.1 bar below spec and one of Ham's tires was 0.3 bar below spec.

So a time penalty may be incoming, but it wouldn't affect the end result.
nainz
06-09-2015
If it's a technical infringement it's a slam dunk and will get DSQ or a time penalty.
Mandark
06-09-2015
Originally Posted by BinaryDad:
“Rumour is that Ham's tires were below the recommended pressure and that Merc were trying to cover a time penalty by building a gap.

**Edit**

Merc are under investigation - Rosberg's tires were 1.1 bar below spec and one of Ham's tires was 0.3 bar below spec.

So a time penalty may be incoming, but it wouldn't affect the end result.”

Ooohh! An interesting outcome for once!!
BinaryDad
06-09-2015
Originally Posted by Mandark:
“Ooohh! An interesting outcome for once!!”

It could also be a DSQ - but I think that would require the stewards to think it was intentional rather than just a mistake. Merc set the tires with the approval of a Pirelli technician, so it's a bit difficult to say what the exact outcome will be.
CLL Dodge
06-09-2015
Originally Posted by nainz:
“If it's a technical infringement it's a slam dunk and will get DSQ or a time penalty.”

Enough for a Ferrari victory.
Stunty
06-09-2015
Hamilton's body language at that press conference.

Looking all concerned, leaning forward, then when asked if his team had told him about it, he smiled, did a nose twitch, then said 'no'.

I think one of his team may have had a slight word in his ear after the race as to what was going on!!



Well, 'something' has to happen to make F1 remotely exciting ...... shame it is all after the chequered fag though!
nainz
06-09-2015
Originally Posted by CLL Dodge:
“Enough for a Ferrari victory.”

I hope not, I don't want to go back to 2008.
BinaryDad
06-09-2015
Originally Posted by CLL Dodge:
“Enough for a Ferrari victory.”

It appears Ferrari are under investigation too. Something seems to have gone wrong on the Pirelli's side. They might have gotten their sums wrong on the pressures to use for a given temperature...

Would be amusing for Ferrari to get a DSQ at their home GP...

**EDIT**

Seems to be some confusion as to whether Ferrari are being investigated as well.
Stunty
06-09-2015
For me there is far too much talking on the pit to car radio.

I wonder whether the other teams had wind of the infringement, if not then why did they not have the chance to pull within 20/25 seconds to preempt a DQ?
Turnbull2000
06-09-2015
http://www.auto-motor-und-sport.de/f...n-9958990.html

https://www.reddit.com/r/formula1/co...th_lower_tyre/

Think Hamilton could be looking at a DQ. Vettel announced as winner at 5pm.
Stunty
06-09-2015
Have to laugh they way the Sky F1 lot are treating this like its a matter of interminable importance ...... anybody would think they are trying to solve a worldwide problem similar to Syria.

Come on guys, let's wait for the stewards decision and stop chewing it over and over, and over!

Can we have another word with Lewis?
d'@ve
06-09-2015
Originally Posted by BinaryDad:
“Rumour is that Ham's tires were below the recommended pressure and that Merc were trying to cover a time penalty by building a gap.

**Edit**

Merc are under investigation - Rosberg's tires were 1.1 bar below spec and one of Ham's tires was 0.3 bar below spec.

So a time penalty may be incoming, but it wouldn't affect the end result.”

Don't forget that it's in Bernie's interests to keep the top of the drivers' championship close, so he's probably already had a quiet word in the stewards' ears to see if if they can wangle a full DQ, so that wouldn't surprise me.

The Italians and Ferrari would then be delighted, too... alternatively they'd probably take a 25.5 second penalty...
CLL Dodge
06-09-2015
So Rosberg's car was the worst offender but Rosberg will be the driver most rewarded by the disqualification.
d'@ve
06-09-2015
If (big if) it's a time penalty though, can't they carry it forward to the next race?
zieler
06-09-2015
Originally Posted by d'@ve:
“If (big if) it's a time penalty though, can't they carry it forward to the next race?”

Think they would if it was a time penalty. Might become a grid penalty for Rosberg if that happens. He'd definitely benefit from a DQ though.
BinaryDad
06-09-2015
Originally Posted by d'@ve:
“If (big if) it's a time penalty though, can't they carry it forward to the next race?”

I think the max time penalty is 25 seconds - anything that requires more is a DSQ.

I'm a bit unsure how they'll come down on Merc in this instance. The 0.3 on Ham's car is a very small infringement, but coupled with the 1.1 on Rosberg's car, it may suggest a possibility of Merc trying to play hard and fast with the rules.

The stewards will want to make an example and Bernie would love the show it would create. Hamilton is in danger of running away with the WDC at this point, and that's not good for profits.
Forza Ferrari
06-09-2015
The FIA have a habbit of letting Mercedes away with things and so I wouldn't expect them to get a meaningful sanction. I think BD explained that the tyre pressures etc are technical directives. Didn't Red Bull get a DQ from quali for braking ones of those.

It is a bit suspicious that before the GP hamilton was complaining about the new pressures being to high which really just said that mercedes like to run low pressures.
zieler
06-09-2015
Originally Posted by BinaryDad:
“I think the max time penalty is 25 seconds - anything that requires more is a DSQ.

I'm a bit unsure how they'll come down on Merc in this instance. The 0.3 on Ham's car is a very small infringement, but coupled with the 1.1 on Rosberg's car, it may suggest a possibility of Merc trying to play hard and fast with the rules.

The stewards will want to make an example and Bernie would love the show it would create. Hamilton is in danger of running away with the WDC at this point, and that's not good for profits.”

Max time penalty is 30 seconds apparently, equivalent of stop-go.

Agree with your analysis. Reckon he'll be disqualified.
nainz
06-09-2015
Vettel's face

https://twitter.com/Mattzel89/status/640523505138802689
Forza Ferrari
06-09-2015
Rob Smedley callint for Mercedes to be DQed.


http://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/sm...uded/?v=11&s=1

Hard to argue with most of that.
nainz
06-09-2015
No further action. Result stands, apparently.
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