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Official Formula 1 Thread (Part 8)
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jlp95bwfc
24-10-2015
BBC Two were live for 15 minutes. Qualifying Highlights tomorrow at 5pm on BBC Two.
d'@ve
25-10-2015
The main (massive area) of heavy rain is starting to clear from Austin about now.

The weather looks to be much improved on Sunday, with showers, but I'd hazard a guess that qualifying in the morning there, and the actual race in the afternoon, will both take place. I'm not saying that either will be dry, but it's possible, and any showers will add spice!
Forza Ferrari
25-10-2015
Ecclestone is saying Honda have offered Red Bull an engine for next year but Ron Dennis is blocking it.

When Honda were let in F1 want them to supply three teams but they couldn't so agreed for them to two in 2nd year and three in third.

Apparently Dennis has a veto on who the teams are and is blocking Red Bull.

You would think Mclaren would share the worst engine on the grid. Especialy since all year they have been saying they have the best car and are the fastest round all the corners it's just the engine holding them back.
Aslan52
25-10-2015
Originally Posted by Forza Ferrari:
“You would think Mclaren would share the worst engine on the grid. Especialy since all year they have been saying they have the best car and are the fastest round all the corners it's just the engine holding them back.”

They've got everything to lose and little to gain.

McLaren enticed Honda back into F1 on the basis that they're never going to beat factory teams with a customer engine.
If Red Bull do better than McLaren with a Honda PU then there's a good chance Honda are going to end up "partnering" Red Bull and McLaren will be back to being merely a customer again.

I can see why Ron Dennis might feel that's a bit unfair after he went to all the effort of getting Honda back into F1 but the fact that he's worried about it suggests a lack of faith in his own design team.

McLaren and Honda are currently both in a rather awkward position.
Honda knows that their PU is a bit weak so they're forced to accept the criticism they get from McLaren.
There is surely going to come a point, though, where it becomes apparent that the Honda PU is fit for purpose and McLaren NEED to have a good car ready for when that time comes.
Their excuses about how the PU is holding them back are going to look rather weak when/if the time comes that Mercedes and Ferrari cars can't pass a McLaren on the straights without DRS.

Personally, I think McLaren are quietly quite relieved that they can blame all their current problems on the engine.
I don't think they've designed an especially good car in the last decade and they've got worse in the last 5 or 6 years. Much worse.

It'd be an amazing coincidence if they really HAD miraculously built a superb car this year and it was only the PU which was holding them back.
Forza Ferrari
25-10-2015
Ron only gave honda a push through the door they got back in to F1 by there own doing. I remember at the start of the year Mclaren were desperate for another team to run the Honda and get some data.

I thought Mclaren had an exclusive deal for the time being. An exclusive deal for the first uear was just silly as that is always going to be the worst year.

I would be surprised if the Honda is capable of winning a race next year. What will scare Mclaren most is if the Honda is in the red bull and torro rosso. Then red bull are two thirds of the honda customers and then they will gain control.

The thing is they are heading for a customer arrangement may as well be in a block of good customer teams.

If nobody else is wanting to take the honda next year and honda have to take another team that will force the red bull deal.

would mclaren not be better to embrace the inevitable than to cause bad blood?
d'@ve
25-10-2015
Light rain at times currently at the circuit, should be an interesting qualifying!
Hoffmister
25-10-2015
Thumbs up for a go from Charlie Whiting
Aslan52
25-10-2015
So, quali' done after 2 sessions?

Half-points race later, keeping the championship on life-support for another race?
Matt35
25-10-2015
Recorded it but for some reason it stopped after 27mins.
homer911
25-10-2015
Originally Posted by Aslan52:
“So, quali' done after 2 sessions?

Half-points race later, keeping the championship on life-support for another race?”

If lewis is first then i think that wraps up the title.
Aslan52
25-10-2015
Possibly a small strategic error from Hamilton there.

Ideally, he should really have aimed for 1st position in every quali' session on the basis that the race MIGHT end up just being a handful of laps under the safety-car followed by a decision that it's too wet to carry on.

Of course, having Rosberg close the gap by 3.5 points probably isn't going to keep Hamilton awake at night but he'll probably be a little bit irritated that he's been "robbed" of those points.
clewsy
25-10-2015
I suspect in the wet 2nd (off the natural racing line) is a better position as will have more grip.

However that assumes its a normal start and not behind the safety car.
zieler
25-10-2015
Originally Posted by clewsy:
“I suspect in the wet 2nd (off the natural racing line) is a better position as will have more grip.

However that assumes its a normal start and not behind the safety car.”

I'll be pretty surprised if it is a normal start.
Aslan52
25-10-2015
I can really see this race starting under the safety-car, running for a dozen or so laps in the hope that the cars will shift the water and then being called-off and half-points awarded.

A real shame for the US fans and for F1.
deadmancarl
25-10-2015
Originally Posted by Aslan52:
“I can really see this race starting under the safety-car, running for a dozen or so laps in the hope that the cars will shift the water and then being called-off and half-points awarded.

A real shame for the US fans and for F1. ”

Sounds like the rain has eased and we will get a full race. The radar is looking good
Scrumper
25-10-2015
Will the race be on BBC?
d'@ve
25-10-2015
BBC Radio only, recorded highlights later this evening on BBC 1.

The rain seems to have stopped, probably for good - but there will still be lots of run-off on the undulating track so it will still be a tricky race even when a dry line appears. The sun should come out during the race, maybe even before it starts.

Very interesting race to come, it should go the distance, crashes permitting.
Hoffmister
25-10-2015
Originally Posted by Scrumper:
“Will the race be on BBC?”

BBC1 highlights only 2230 till 0000

Love EJ & Caulthard but the new Jake sucks

Sky/v media is the way to watch.. or sudmit to x factot live cr@p & become a part of a rantng mob

agrapo of nothing.. well done you saints..well done you saints
Forza Ferrari
25-10-2015
They will get on to slicks quite quickly without more rain.
Forza Ferrari
25-10-2015
Merc struggling with the inters?
geemonkee
25-10-2015
What a cock Hamilton is - he just pushed his team-mate of the track.
Forza Ferrari
25-10-2015
Originally Posted by geemonkee:
“What a cock Hamilton is - he just pushed his team-mate of the track.”

Surprising even crofty and brundel admitting this happened. They tried to ignore it at first make things up about tyre temps and understeer but once it was undeniable on the on board they had to admit hamilton didn't turn in enough and pushed him off.
Forza Ferrari
25-10-2015
Restart a bit dirty from Mercedes?
Sylvester2007
25-10-2015
So we get a full SC when Rosberg is 12 seconds in front and a VSC when he's 1 in front despite both incidents being for the same reason and arguably Hulkenburg's being in a worse position at a corner. It's just the inconsistency.

Great to see some good racing though. Top racers should be able to do it in all conditions.

Another safety car - right call this time though.
zieler
25-10-2015
Originally Posted by Sylvester2007:
“So we get a full SC when Rosberg is 12 seconds in front and a VSC when he's 1 in front despite both incidents being for the same reason and arguably Hulkenburg's being in a worse position at a corner. It's just the inconsistency.

Great to see some good racing though. Top racers should be able to do it in all conditions.

Another safety car - right call this time though.”

Think it was because Hulkenberg's car was easier for marshalls to remove. Think with the Sauber it was much harder to get the car out of harms way.

Going to be a great end now. Hamilton/Mercedes have got very lucky with the last safety car.
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