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Old 25-10-2015, 21:43
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Congrats Lewis..

Well done Jensen for finishing 6th 7th ?

and grid girl no 3 can I call you
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Old 25-10-2015, 21:44
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well done to lewis on 3rd world title great race and max vertspaen is a future world champion
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Old 25-10-2015, 21:48
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And, believe it or not, with the poor conditions, the close racing, the variety of tyre choices and the general carnage, PASTOR MALDONADO picked his way through it all and managed to finish 8th!

Oh, and the "new" engine Honda stuck in the back of Alonso's donkey didn't seem to be a big improvement, judging by the way Button passed him.
I was waiting for Maldonado to take a few off but he didn't

To be fair, Button had a fresh pair of boots compared to Alonso who was a sitting duck,
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Old 25-10-2015, 21:57
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To be fair, Button had a fresh pair of boots compared to Alonso who was a sitting duck,
I lost track of the pit-stops if I'm honest.

Even so, Button's move on Alonso was on the back-straight and he just blew past Alonso (with the aid of DRS) without any trouble at all.

I'm not sure if the new PU is supposed to be more powerful, whether it's just supposed to be better at ERS harvesting or whether it's more tractable or something but clearly, overall, the improvement isn't greater than the benefit of the older unit with DRS.

Nice to see Jackie Stewart saying he's changed his flight out of Texas so he could get a chance to spend some time with Hamilton.
I tend to think that JS is a bit of a miserable git but his heart's obviously still in the right place.
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Old 25-10-2015, 22:04
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I lost track of the pit-stops if I'm honest.

Even so, Button's move on Alonso was on the back-straight and he just blew past Alonso (with the aid of DRS) without any trouble at all.

I'm not sure if the new PU is supposed to be more powerful, whether it's just supposed to be better at ERS harvesting or whether it's more tractable or something but clearly, overall, the improvement isn't greater than the benefit of the older unit with DRS.

Nice to see Jackie Stewart saying he's changed his flight out of Texas so he could get a chance to spend some time with Hamilton.
I tend to think that JS is a bit of a miserable git but his heart's obviously still in the right place.
Yeah, Button came in and Alonso had other issues apparently.

Next season will be big for them as they can't have another season like this.

To be fair, how many British drivers can you name over the years with anything resembling a personality? We seem to produce the dullest drivers of all. It's a good job titles aren't won on personality. Can you imagine a victory party with Hamilton, Hill, Mansell, Di Resta and Stewart. Rock n Roll.
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Old 25-10-2015, 22:12
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Sour grapes galore from Rosburg!

Well done Hamilton
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Old 25-10-2015, 22:44
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Wasn't it Rosberg who, last year, said that he isn't interested in mind games?

Apparently the reason he threw the hat back at Hamilton was because he thought Lewis was "playing games" by giving him the #2 hat.

A bit telling that that's what was going through his head - rather than that Hamilton was just putting his own hat on and took the time to pass Vettel and Rosberg theirs at the same time.

Still, I suppose losing a WDC and knowing that you've got another year of effort before you can get another chance is probably enough to put most people in a bad mood so I suppose we can cut him some slack.


Oh, and apparently he also thought the media were taking a swipe at him by asking both Hamilton and Vettel about what it's like to win a WDC while Rosberg isn't a member of that club.
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Old 25-10-2015, 22:48
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Yeah, Button came in and Alonso had other issues apparently.
Ahh, just heard that a failed sensor on Alonso's car had put the engine into "get you home" mode.

Still seems like both McLaren and Honda have failed to deliver a definitive "turned the corner" moment this year though.
Be nice to see that happen before the end of the year.
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Old 25-10-2015, 22:49
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Rosberg needed to be more punchy in turn 1. He needed to turn into the side of hamilton at turn 1 on the first lap.
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Old 25-10-2015, 22:58
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He has equalled Jackie Stewart now and has nearly twice as many race wins and podium places than him so I think he is the greatest British F1 racer of all time.
Sorry, no. More races per season, and more equality between cars. Stewart had a good first season in F1, given that he was racing against Jim Clark. He then spent two years in the wilderness before taking a brand new marque (Matra) to World Championship status in just two years. He then repeated the feat with Tyrrell and was World Champion twice more, against much greater competition than Hamilton ever faced. All this in an era where you were in much greater danger, to the point where Stewart retired from the sport rather than risk another season. And no-one was ever again World Champion while driving a Tyrrell.
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Old 25-10-2015, 23:02
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If i was german i would be so ashamed of Nico. How such a country creates such brilliant drivers and they produce Nico Rosberg.
I agree he was a very sore loser and had an attitude not to be proud of. I do not think he even sprayed the champagne on the podium, but just stood there. I know it was a big disappointment for him but he should not have acted like a spoilt child.
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Old 25-10-2015, 23:57
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How much of Hamiltons success is down to Nico
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Old 26-10-2015, 00:15
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Hmmm, Nico a bad loser? has everyone forgotten those interviews with LH when he lost a race, and the inevitable "is it because I'm...." remark.
Yes, no question about his ability, but not sure if his heart is in the UK or the US, why wear a baseball hat all weekend with a half hidden Stars and Stripes?
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Old 26-10-2015, 01:14
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Hmmm, Nico a bad loser? has everyone forgotten those interviews with LH when he lost a race, and the inevitable "is it because I'm...." remark.
Yes, no question about his ability, but not sure if his heart is in the UK or the US, why wear a baseball hat all weekend with a half hidden Stars and Stripes?
Probably because the race was in the USA.
You did notice the 8ft wide Union flag he had wrapped around him too, right?

For what it's worth, there was an interview with Hamilton earlier in the weekend (I think it'd got to the point where the media were broadcasting ANYTHING that they had on tape) where he was talking about the baseball caps.
Since they changed the rules so that drivers aren't allowed to muck around with their helmet designs it seems as though some of the drivers are looking for alternative ways to express their creativity and individuality and Hamilton has decided to create a whole range of baseball caps specific to different races.

All of which are no doubt available from his website for a suitable price and, if you're the sort of person who likes that stuff, you're probably going to want to buy them all.
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Old 26-10-2015, 01:27
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Sure, come on up here, Nic-Nic.

[the drivers laugh, and Lewwy approaches]

Niccy, ladies and gentlemen. Let's give him a hand, very much. Come to think of it, give him a championship, too.

[laughter. Niccy gets angry when Lewwy offers him a sponsors cap.]

Here, Niccy, put on this silly hat.

[Niccy throws the hat down. Lewwy picks it back up and offers it again.]

Just for a second, Niccy.

[Niccy throws the hat back at him, and he picks it up again]

Don't be a jerk, Niccy.

[approaches with the hat, but Niccy smacks him away]

Hey, don't TOUCH ME!

.....

100% true story
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Old 26-10-2015, 05:54
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Congrats Lewis, well deserved, he's been on another level at times during this season.

Hopefully we can just have some good balls to the wall racing for the last three races now that the pressure is off everybody.
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Old 26-10-2015, 08:44
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I agree he was a very sore loser and had an attitude not to be proud of. I do not think he even sprayed the champagne on the podium, but just stood there. I know it was a big disappointment for him but he should not have acted like a spoilt child.
I think you're being too hard on him. I'm no fan of Nico's, especially since Monaco and Spa last year, it's got to be hitting him pretty hard.

He's worked his arse off at Mercedes, putting up with performance and reliability issues and when he finally DOES get a dominant car, he had to compete against one of the best drivers in F1 today. Not only that but he's lost the team battle in all three years of them racing at Merc, twice in a WDC battle.

He had a chance for the WDC, and he lost that. He was ahead in the points of Hamilton multiple times last year, and still he lost out. He's perhaps realizing that with Hamilton as his team mate, he doesn't stand a chance - which means he's admitting to himself, right now, that he's second best. And that's a hard truth to swallow for somebody so competitive.

I can excuse Rosberg's attitude, him petulantly throwing the cap back and not being in the mood to celebrate on the podium. He's human and just taken a massive hit to the sack - I'd think there was something wrong with him if he wasn't affected by the result.

Hell, even Seb momentarily looked a bit choked when he commented on losing the WDC chance this year with Lewis's win.
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Old 26-10-2015, 08:48
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Congrats to LH, a fantastic race and fantastic achievement to make it 3 WDCs. I do feel for Rosberg of only because the way yesterday went demonstrates LH owns him. First the pass at the first corner which was hard and bordering unfair but that's the way champions race, and secondly the unforced error again which had echos of Monza last season. The reality appears that when it comes to the crunch Rosberg doesn't have the 'right stuff' and while he's LH's team-mate he'll always be no2 (no pun intended). I suspect he may realise it's time to move on once his current contract is up.

I also agree that LH has been a petulant child in the past and no F1 driver is a good loser so I'm not surprised at what happened after the race. Can you imagine what we would have seen had cameras been in Prost or Senna's faces straight after one of their losses against the other?
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Old 26-10-2015, 10:34
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Well done hamilton drove consistently this year, didn't constantly make mistakes like rosberg.
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Old 26-10-2015, 11:07
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Blimey an exciting race and well done to Hamilton on his third WDC. You have to feel a tad sorry for Rosberg but his complaints about turn 1 at the start are sour grapes as he didn't lose the race there he lost it when he made a mistake and went off the track when leading. He certainly isn't a good loser.

The surprise of the race was Button finishing 6th, albeit due to a 5 second penalty for Sainz, the worry is Alonso who had a supposedly improved engine was out of the points.
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Old 26-10-2015, 13:11
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Blimey an exciting race and well done to Hamilton on his third WDC. You have to feel a tad sorry for Rosberg but his complaints about turn 1 at the start are sour grapes as he didn't lose the race there he lost it when he made a mistake and went off the track when leading. He certainly isn't a good loser.

The surprise of the race was Button finishing 6th, albeit due to a 5 second penalty for Sainz, the worry is Alonso who had a supposedly improved engine was out of the points.
BiB - Alonso has said that he had an engine issue towards the end of the race and that is why he slipped back
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Old 26-10-2015, 17:52
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BiB - Alonso has said that he had an engine issue towards the end of the race and that is why he slipped back
Of course, it's hardly a good sign when the "new, improved" engine suffers problems while the old, inferior one doesn't.

It was supposed to be a sensor fault that forced Alonso's engine into a reduced-power mode so hopefully it was just "one of those things".
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Old 26-10-2015, 19:14
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Of course, it's hardly a good sign when the "new, improved" engine suffers problems while the old, inferior one doesn't.

It was supposed to be a sensor fault that forced Alonso's engine into a reduced-power mode so hopefully it was just "one of those things".
I hope so too, as Jenson is supposed to get the engine this weekend
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Old 26-10-2015, 19:18
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Alonso has said that the new engine was only worth 0.1s.

Not much sign of light at the end of that rambow likely 2016 won't be much better than 2015 for Mclaren Honda.
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Old 26-10-2015, 20:23
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Most exciting race I've seen in a long time.

Well done Lewis.
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