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Official Formula 1 Thread (Part 8)
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Sylvester2007
02-10-2016
Typical Hamilton, when Rosberg's car fails 'that's racing' when his car fails "something is going on here'.

Always some sort of conspiracy. Maybe Timo Glock in Brazil all those years ago was a conspiracy, Lewis?

Rosberg's had his fair share of bad luck in recent years, that's racing Lewis.
JasonWatkins
02-10-2016
Originally Posted by Sylvester2007:
“Typical Hamilton, when Rosberg's car fails 'that's racing' when his car fails "something is going on here'.

Always some sort of conspiracy. Maybe Timo Glock in Brazil all those years ago was a conspiracy, Lewis?

Rosberg's had his fair share of bad luck in recent years, that's racing Lewis.”

I've literally just read his comments and it's just underscored why I can't stand him even more.

Talk about throwing his toys out of the pram.
Mark F
02-10-2016
Can see young Max causing a few incidents with his aggressive driving (not a bad thing I guess..)

Ferrari having a shocker generally.

McLaren certainly aren't atm.

Lewis is always looking for excuses/in a bad mood when it doesn't go his way.

Bit like Jose in the football I think.
Fudd
02-10-2016
I wonder if Hamilton puts additional pressure on his car in terms of his racing style which is why he has more failures than Rosberg.

I was feeling sorry for him but his petulant, childish response just reminds me why I'm not a fan.
homer911
02-10-2016
Originally Posted by Fudd:
“I wonder if Hamilton puts additional pressure on his car in terms of his racing style which is why he has more failures than Rosberg.

I was feeling sorry for him but his petulant, childish response just reminds me why I'm not a fan.”

He has had issue's in practice and Qualifying so it's not a result of pushing the car too hard.

And if you interview people straight after incidents you are going to get raw emotions, i don't want sportsman's to just give robotic answers and talk but say nothing at all. I'm not sure how can you expect him not to be bitter.
kev
02-10-2016
Originally Posted by Fudd:
“I wonder if Hamilton puts additional pressure on his car in terms of his racing style which is why he has more failures than Rosberg.

I was feeling sorry for him but his petulant, childish response just reminds me why I'm not a fan.”

I was wondering exactly the same - if no one else is having issues perhaps Lewis is the problem. Vettel's admission also reminded me why I prefer him to Hamilton.
homer911
02-10-2016
Originally Posted by kev:
“I was wondering exactly the same - if no one else is having issues perhaps Lewis is the problem. Vettel's admission also reminded me why I prefer him to Hamilton.”

Vettel has had his moments in the past aswell don't forget that, all the great drivers have.

I really do think that people in general are far too hard on sports stars in all sports, they almost forget that that they are human beings and judge them as good or bad people based on a interview or two over the space of decade plus long careers.
briggsy1
02-10-2016
Re. Ricciardo's podium celebrations:
I'm sorry Daniel but I think I'll stick with drinking wine the traditional way - out of a glass!
MR_Pitkin
02-10-2016
Originally Posted by Fudd:
“I wonder if Hamilton puts additional pressure on his car in terms of his racing style which is why he has more failures than Rosberg.

I was feeling sorry for him but his petulant, childish response just reminds me why I'm not a fan.”

I can't wait to see his face if Roseberg wins the title.
Forza Ferrari
02-10-2016
Another bitter blow for Lewis Hamilton to endure. Derek Warrick had just done his bit and given Rosberg a penalty but just what do you do about those mercedes sabatouers.
Colin_London
02-10-2016
Originally Posted by Forza Ferrari:
“Another bitter blow for Lewis Hamilton to endure. Derek Warrick had just done his bit and given Rosberg a penalty but just what do you do about those mercedes sabatouers.”

So Sabotage just never happens in multi-million £ sports? Just impossible is it?
Forza Ferrari
02-10-2016
I find it interesting that hamilton compared to the other merceded powered cars on the grid. What I always find strange is how the works cars can breeze them on the straights. Rosberg passed the manor today like it had last years honda in it.

The mercedes reaction was classic. You really wanted to tell them don't worry you will still easy win the drivers and constructors championships.

You have to wonder if their dispear was based on how much disruption there will be in team now dealing with hamiltons outbursts.
homer911
02-10-2016
Originally Posted by Forza Ferrari:
“I find it interesting that hamilton compared to the other merceded powered cars on the grid. What I always find strange is how the works cars can breeze them on the straights. Rosberg passed the manor today like it had last years honda in it.

The mercedes reaction was classic. You really wanted to tell them don't worry you will still easy win the drivers and constructors championships.

You have to wonder if their dispear was based on how much disruption there will be in team now dealing with hamiltons outbursts.”

Why wouldn't they be annoyed that their car in the lead just blew up.

I really do not get some people, it's as if people think the reaction should "it's no big deal" after having a race win taken away which will likely hand the Championship to your team mate after having multiple engine issue's all year.

Just accept it and don't care.
Forza Ferrari
02-10-2016
Obviously lewis is right to be gutted. For Mercedes not so bad they will still have a good year. There reactions at one lost GP seemed over the top. It was almost like that time at Monaco when they only finished 1st and 3rd.
Puterkid
02-10-2016
Originally Posted by Colin_London:
“Hamiltons mechanical failure again - surely this season cannot just be bad luck now?”

You see, it's not odd that Hamilton is saying this sort of thing out loud, it's what so many are thinking. It can just be bad luck, but how gutting must it be! And then to have armchair critics diss him because he has emotions and anger and expresses them when a microphone is pushed in his face whilst he is trying to come to terms with what just happened, what else would you expect!

People should ask themselves how they would respond if it were them. I'm sure if it were me much worse would come out at the huge disappointment of it all.
Nick_DK
02-10-2016
Originally Posted by Puterkid:
“You see, it's not odd that Hamilton is saying this sort of thing out loud, it's what so many are thinking. It can just be bad luck, but how gutting must it be! And then to have armchair critics diss him because he has emotions and anger and expresses them when a microphone is pushed in his face whilst he is trying to come to terms with what just happened, what else would you expect!

People should ask themselves how they would respond if it were them. I'm sure if it were me much worse would come out at the huge disappointment of it all.”

8 Mercedes powered cars, he is the only one has any engine issues, that's some very "bad luck". I stay out of the Lewis debates, look at the top posts in on this page alone. Lot of people don't like him which is fine but since 07 you can't debate with these people, anything with Lewis he's wrong or overreacting. His engine blew up in a tight title race and he is not happy. He has every right to be. Merc clearly not stupid enough to put a driver at risk but after Lewis mechanical problems and weird strategies he has every right to ask questions.
dtcdtcdtc
02-10-2016
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Deleted - Sorry, wrong thread
d'@ve
02-10-2016
Originally Posted by Nick_DK:
“8 Mercedes powered cars, he is the only one has any engine issues, that's some very "bad luck". I stay out of the Lewis debates, look at the top posts in on this page alone. Lot of people don't like him which is fine but since 07 you can't debate with these people, anything with Lewis he's wrong or overreacting. His engine blew up in a tight title race and he is not happy. He has every right to be. Merc clearly not stupid enough to put a driver at risk but after Lewis mechanical problems and weird strategies he has every right to ask questions.”

Mercedes certainly seem to have questions to answer. Something seems to be going on here, though I don't know what. All in all a bad situation - whoever ends up as champion.
Forza Ferrari
02-10-2016
Originally Posted by Nick_DK:
“8 Mercedes powered cars, he is the only one has any engine issues, that's some very "bad luck". I stay out of the Lewis debates, look at the top posts in on this page alone. Lot of people don't like him which is fine but since 07 you can't debate with these people, anything with Lewis he's wrong or overreacting. His engine blew up in a tight title race and he is not happy. He has every right to be. Merc clearly not stupid enough to put a driver at risk but after Lewis mechanical problems and weird strategies he has every right to ask questions.”

I am convinced those other 7 mercedes cars don't run the same power settings. Almost all engine failures are in factory cars.

You almost never see customer teams of any manufacture taking grid penalties. It would appear logical the contracts for any customer teams will include large charges for using more than five power units.

Mercedes would not be able to cope if 7 teams wanted to replace all 4 power unit items for both cars at any one GP.

So i think all customer teams are forced in to engine management all season as they won't have a free hand on replacement components.

So comparing reliability of customer teams to works teams will not be valid. You can only compare between the two works cars.
Nick_DK
02-10-2016
Originally Posted by Forza Ferrari:
“I am convinced those other 7 mercedes cars don't run the same power settings. Almost all engine failures are in factory cars.

You almost never see customer teams of any manufacture taking grid penalties. It would appear logical the contracts for any customer teams will include large charges for using more than five power units.

Mercedes would not be able to cope if 7 teams wanted to replace all 4 power unit items for both cars at any one GP.

So i think all customer teams are forced in to engine management all season as they won't have a free hand on replacement components.

So comparing reliability of customer teams to works teams will not be valid. You can only compare between the two works cars.”

Fair point, cannot argue. Still even if you take away the 6 drivers still doesn't work out how Lewis keeps on getting these engines troubles while Nico doesn't. Doesn't seem to matter old engine or new.

Originally Posted by d'@ve:
“Mercedes certainly seem to have questions to answer. Something seems to be going on here, though I don't know what. All in all a bad situation - whoever ends up as champion.”

I just think Lewis relationship with Merc is too damaged to fix now. Don't know if I'm in minority but the relationship has looked broken all year and Lewis/Lauda have fallen out too. Not just talking about just today but all year it's clear something has gone wrong.

Maybe we see Lewis and Seb switch seats. Both seem unhappy and been rumours of Seb to Merc/Lewis to Ferrari.
Smufter
03-10-2016
Was it just me, or did anybody else think they saw a kind of "semi smile" come across Toto's face just after he thumped his fist down when Lewis's engine gave up?
As if he was saying to himself "well, that looked convincing".
Assa2
03-10-2016
It's too easy to write this off to 'bad luck'. That's just a way of admitting Mercedes don't understand what's going on. There is an underlying cause and actually I don't believe that Mercedes don't understand what it is which makes me think it's something they don't want to admit. Is it an issue in the way Lewis drives his car? Possibly although even if that were true it's not like Mercedes wouldn't know that after several years and design their egnine accordingly. Also even if Lewis is more agressive on the throttle or what ever, it doesn't explain why a brand new ICE blows up in less than one race weekend? In any case if it is the driver would the team want to publically admit it? Probably not, but then again I'm sure they'd make the driver aware and not expect him to go spouting off about it to the media, so I think we can assume it's not that.

Hypothetically, might Mecedes favour one of it's drivers over the other? Might it suit Mercedes, the German brand, to have a German champion? When the team has the luxury of being so far ahead of everyone else that winning both championships is beyond reasonable doubt even at the start of season then I do not believe a conversation wouldn't be had about who they would prefer to win. If you accept that situation, it's not much of a leap to wonder how that possibly might effect the season?

The counter argument is how does a German parent company persuade the children companies based in England and employing largely English people to favour the German driver secretely and not expect someone to leak that information? As reasonable a CT as it might seem, the actual execution is nigh-on impossible.

What ever the reason, and I doubt we'll ever know, it's looking more and more likely that LH is going to lose this DC due to unreliability. How he responds to that will be interesting. With the regulation changes coming in next season, if Mercedes dominance is broken and someone else becomes the top dog I would expect Lewis to move teams in 2018. I don't think he's the forgive and forget type.
jmclaugh
03-10-2016
Hamilton is obviously rightly frustrated with his Merc engines this season and is going to need 100% reliability for the rest of the season and to drive at his very best to retain his title.
Forza Ferrari
03-10-2016
If Mercedes just wanted a Roseberg championship I really wonder why they signed Hamilton for such a long and expensive contract.

Toto did make one telling comment recently about things coming to an end. I don't know of this means driver pairings or mercedes dominance.

I kind of wonder if mercedes will quickly reduce budget if 2017 stops them winning.
ACU
03-10-2016
I didnt watch the race, but did catch the halmilton interview later on. Whilst I agree that he has the right to be upset and annoyed about what happened. Coming out in public and saying the team are sabotaging me (its what he was hinting at), is out of order. For those saying the microphone is thrust into his face straight afterwards are wrong. He did the interview a good 20+ mins after his engine so had time to cool down and think what to say. No one would have blamed him if in the interview, he showed emotion. However to say what he said isnt on. But its the kind of thing you come to expect from him. No doubt he will be in trouble with the team and someone will talk to him. Even if Merc werent favouring one driver over the other, after comments like this, they may well do. By claiming sabotage, hes not only having a go at the German owners, but all the English mechanics that work in putting the car together. Not smart at all, which ever way you cut it.

As for the sabotage theory. Yeah right, what a load of rubbish. Not worth saying anything else on the matter.

One important point that no one has mentioned is that this was the home race of the Merces title sponsor. This is probably the most important race for Merc. If in any race on the calendar, you wanted a 1 -2 finish it would be this race. If you wanted to sabotage, you would NEVER do it at the home of your title sponser.
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