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Old 23-12-2012, 14:07
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For me that is a step backwards. I only ever saw her on the dreadful Gadget show. Whilst she may know a lot about motor sports, that wont be her role here. They have experts, they need an anchor. Not sure she will make a good anchor.
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Old 23-12-2012, 16:47
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I only ever saw her on the dreadful Gadget show
A programme able to make even the shiniest diamond look like an iTurd.
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Old 23-12-2012, 21:23
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Err, like Jake, who I actually thought did a really good job.

I liked what I saw of her in MotoGP and she is clearly well into motor sport generally. So should bring knowledge, enthusiam and presenting ability.

Looks a good choice to me.
Jake was already an F1 enthusiast and decent sports presenter. He really worked hard over the prior Winter to gen up on sport before his first race season.

I never thought Suzy was a stand out presenter of MotorGP though she did build up good knowledge as time went on. What I couldn't abide though was her flirting with the riders.
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Old 23-12-2012, 21:32
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Yes, the flirting will get old quick, she loves herself way too much, I don't understand why though.
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Old 25-12-2012, 23:00
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For me that is a step backwards. I only ever saw her on the dreadful Gadget show. Whilst she may know a lot about motor sports, that wont be her role here. They have experts, they need an anchor. Not sure she will make a good anchor.
It will be almost impossible to replicate the chemistry Jake, DC and Eddie had, but everything changes and we must give her a fair crack at the whip. I will reserve my judgement until I see her in action. It can't be worse than Herbert, Hill and Brundle.
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Old 28-12-2012, 15:29
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Great that Suzi is coming to BBC F1.. Better then all them muppets on Sky F1
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Old 29-12-2012, 00:12
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Great that Suzi is coming to BBC F1.. Better then all them muppets on Sky F1
LOL. With six posts in two years, Tacker, ya don't say much but what you do say is the truth.

I hate and detest the plastic Sky team, and when the Beeb aren't broadcasting I only watch the race itself on Sky. If I had to pay for it, I just wouldn't.

I'm really looking forward to Suzi taking over. She was excellent on MotoGP - far better than Mr Vanilla Roberts - and I suspect she'll make it her own very quickly.
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Old 29-12-2012, 08:53
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I agree. But I do hope she is able to gel with DC and Eddie. The three musketeers had a thing going on, almost a "bromance," you could say.
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Old 29-12-2012, 10:43
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Maybe they'll change into two naughty boys out with their mum.

That's assuming that DC will still be there. A year ago I stated my belief that he'd be off to join Uncle Brundle at Sky when his Beeb contract expires. If he does stay, then kudos to him.
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Old 29-12-2012, 15:17
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Maybe they'll change into two naughty boys out with their mum.

That's assuming that DC will still be there. A year ago I stated my belief that he'd be off to join Uncle Brundle at Sky when his Beeb contract expires. If he does stay, then kudos to him.
It looks like he's staying, Jake mentioned that DC & EJ will be continuing their double act on the BBC F1 2012 review today.
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Old 07-01-2013, 01:14
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Long time since I looked into this thread but DS finally has a mobile view you don't have to zoom and pinch all the time. Shame there's nowt going on to discuss really.
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Old 07-01-2013, 10:30
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Long time since I looked into this thread but DS finally has a mobile view you don't have to zoom and pinch all the time. Shame there's nowt going on to discuss really.
Its the close season, with not much going on, thus nothing really to discuss. Once testing starts, then I am sure things will liven up.
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Old 07-01-2013, 10:39
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Great that Suzi is coming to BBC F1.. Better then all them muppets on Sky F1
Have you watched any of Sky F1 in order to form a decent well rounded opinion?

Due to the BBC's decision to give up half of their live races, they lost their best staff straight away.

Jake Humphrey was a decent host, an all round nice guy, and seemed to have a decent rapport with the Grid, plus DC and EJ.

DC I can deal with, he's a decent pundit, has experience with the newer generation of F1 cars and technology, but EJ just gets my wick every time. He's always right, anything that anyone else says that differs with his opinion is wrong...

However, on the Sky Team, you have Simon Lazenby - he's an 'OK' anchor. Seems to get along with people in the grid, comes across as a decent chap, has a decent rapport with DH and JH. DH is the grounded, slightly 'dull' wingman, but has a good knowledge of the sport, and JH is just, well, a legend tbh. He's charismatic, funny, and a pretty good personality on screen.

Having access to both, I'll watch Sky every time. They've put money into F1 broadcasting, and it shows. Nothing like having a dedicated channel for F1.

In the eye candy stakes - Georgie Thompson outscores Suzi Perry every day of the week for me.
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Old 09-01-2013, 00:22
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Have you watched any of Sky F1 in order to form a decent well rounded opinion?
I have and it really is pants. Although I have not seen the viewing figures, I understand the viewing public agree. I don't suppose you have the ratings numbers.

Due to the BBC's decision to give up half of their live races, they lost their best staff straight away.
That is a subjective opinion.

Jake Humphrey was a decent host, an all round nice guy, and seemed to have a decent rapport with the Grid, plus DC and EJ.
We are in full agreement there.

DC I can deal with, he's a decent pundit, has experience with the newer generation of F1 cars and technology, but EJ just gets my wick every time. He's always right, anything that anyone else says that differs with his opinion is wrong...
He was absolutely spot on with Lewis leaving McLaren. He seems to have a connection with the teams and they talk to him.

However, on the Sky Team, you have Simon Lazenby - he's an 'OK' anchor. Seems to get along with people in the grid, comes across as a decent chap, has a decent rapport with DH and JH. DH is the grounded, slightly 'dull' wingman, but has a good knowledge of the sport, and JH is just, well, a legend tbh. He's charismatic, funny, and a pretty good personality on screen.
Sorry, but this is where we part on opinion. I found them, well....just boring. I couldn't see any chemistry, no camaraderie nor balance. As for Brundle, well he is just rude and obnoxious. The time he pushed DC out of the way, on the grid, was an exemplary demonstration of his arrogance. Sebastian Vettel's annoyance was clear to see and this is why Brundle doesn't get the respect on the grid.

As far Johnny Herbert is concerned I have found him to be nothing but respectful, professional and knowledgeable. He is truly one of the sport's gentlemen.

Having access to both, I'll watch Sky every time. They've put money into F1 broadcasting, and it shows. Nothing like having a dedicated channel for F1.
It is good to be able to switch on and see something related to Formula One when you want to, but I don't think that gives Sky the advantage on quality.

In the eye candy stakes - Georgie Thompson outscores Suzi Perry every day of the week for me.
This is where I think we differ signifcantly. Looks mean nothing to me, all I am interetsed in is how well they can do their job.
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Old 09-01-2013, 03:29
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Viewing figures for SSF1 average 400,000 for shared race and 700,000-800,000 for exclusive races.

As far as the dedicated channel goes. Even wuth a channel they still show less civerage of thw sessiins that the BBC has done fir the past few years.

Overall it is just another typical Sky Sports production, style over substance.
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Old 09-01-2013, 05:38
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Viewing figures for SSF1 average 400,000 for shared race and 700,000-800,000 for exclusive races.

As far as the dedicated channel goes. Even wuth a channel they still show less civerage of thw sessiins that the BBC has done fir the past few years.

Overall it is just another typical Sky Sports production, style over substance.
With the BBC you get a much better sense of occaision and pre-race build up which make the race more enjoyable. With Sky it's like, here's another race and that's it.
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Old 09-01-2013, 09:49
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I have and it really is pants. Although I have not seen the viewing figures, I understand the viewing public agree. I don't suppose you have the ratings numbers.

That is a subjective opinion.

We are in full agreement there.

He was absolutely spot on with Lewis leaving McLaren. He seems to have a connection with the teams and they talk to him.

Sorry, but this is where we part on opinion. I found them, well....just boring. I couldn't see any chemistry, no camaraderie nor balance. As for Brundle, well he is just rude and obnoxious. The time he pushed DC out of the way, on the grid, was an exemplary demonstration of his arrogance. Sebastian Vettel's annoyance was clear to see and this is why Brundle doesn't get the respect on the grid.

As far Johnny Herbert is concerned I have found him to be nothing but respectful, professional and knowledgeable. He is truly one of the sport's gentlemen.


It is good to be able to switch on and see something related to Formula One when you want to, but I don't think that gives Sky the advantage on quality.


This is where I think we differ signifcantly. Looks mean nothing to me, all I am interetsed in is how well they can do their job.
Viewing figures dont really mean anything. The BBC is free and available to every household in the UK. Sky is behind a pay wall. The viewing figures are bound to be lower on sky, thats just plain common sense. Nothing to do with quality of the broadcast (up to a point).

EJ does talk rubbish most of the time. Yep he got the Hamilton thing right...well done to him. However there is no way I would want to listen to him all season, just to get that one nugget of information.

I am not a fan of DH either, way to boring. Think sky wanted a face, that people in the UK would recognise. He has no charisma, although he does have quite a lot of knowledge. Lazenby and Herbert are a good pair, do a very good job, Hill brings it down for me. However I doubt you will get a better partnership that Humphries, Coulthard, Jordan and Brundle. That was a very good team, and is going to be very hard to beat by any broadcaster. I think a lot of people still think about that team when they talk about the BBC coverage. Take JH and MB out of that and insert Suzy Perry, and you have a very different dynamic. Time will tell if they are any good. I can see Coulthard moving over to sky at some point. Get him to replace Hill, and you have the makings of a very good team.

Agree with you about the Brundle pushing Coulthard out of the way. Good to see Vettel did the decent thing, and went to Coulthard first and made Brundle wait.

Soulboy - Skys build up is alot better, they have a decent build-up, 1.5 - 2 hours. A lot more than the BCC, so not sure how you think the BBC build up is better. Add to this sky offering all the practice sessions, press conferences then you have a better alround package. As with all sky productions, they will get better over time. This was their first year in F1, they have a lot to learn. It was however a very good first stab at F1.
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Old 09-01-2013, 09:57
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Viewing figures for SSF1 average 400,000 for shared race and 700,000-800,000 for exclusive races.

As far as the dedicated channel goes. Even wuth a channel they still show less civerage of thw sessiins that the BBC has done fir the past few years.

Overall it is just another typical Sky Sports production, style over substance.
With the BBC you get a much better sense of occaision and pre-race build up which make the race more enjoyable. With Sky it's like, here's another race and that's it.
That's has been kind of my point. They go in for these fancy gadgets and gimmicks, but ultimately, they mean nothing. I can't really see the point of looking at a close up of some paint work. If it was significant, I am sure Gary Anderson would have pointed it out.

Talking of Gary Anderson, I really like his "no nonsense" approach to his technical commentary. This is someone who clearly knows his onions and is able to give a clear and accessible perspective around technical issues. Having worked with almost everybody in the pit lane, at some point during his career, he is able to relate to the mechanics, the technicians and the team principals, on a mostly equal level. He is also a wily old chap and knows when his chain is being yanked.

As far as the viewing figures go; four hundred thousand for a Formula One Grand Prix, is pitiful.
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Old 09-01-2013, 11:15
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Talking of Gary Anderson, I really like his "no nonsense" approach to his technical commentary. This is someone who clearly knows his onions and is able to give a clear and accessible perspective around technical issues. Having worked with almost everybody in the pit lane, at some point during his career, he is able to relate to the mechanics, the technicians and the team principals, on a mostly equal level. He is also a wily old chap and knows when his chain is being yanked.
When you can understand his mumblings he's very good. The stuff he did on the hop with Jake at the car launches last year on the website was excellent and I was hoping they'd utilise him more for technical features like that with something slightly more sophisticated than a pen and paper but it never really happened.

I'm not convinced he's the best person for the pit lane though, he's barely audible, he stammers and mumbles through his links and it's often so hard to make out what he's saying you just switch off.

Ironically he's better on Friday practice when Jenny Gow is with him and she can ask him questions. Maybe she puts the mike in front of his moth or he copes better with someone face to face with him that he can bounce off.

I really like him, his technical knowledge is excellent, but he just doesn't work in a live Quali/Race situation for me.

Maybe if the BBC give him more training over the winter he might have improved before next season, or use him in a different capacity.
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Old 09-01-2013, 11:22
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Perhaps they could work on a voice filter for his mike which loses the rumbling/mumbling and brings forward the voice. An old style telephone handset with limited frequency range may do the job?
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Old 11-01-2013, 14:48
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Is it just me or are the teams a bit later getting their cars out on display this year?

Seems like I still had the xmas decorations up last year while I was reading about the first few gator-nose cars.

Haven't seem even a murmur about when teams plan to release cars this year.
Anybody know when it's gonna start happening?
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Old 11-01-2013, 14:53
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Is it just me or are the teams a bit later getting their cars out on display this year?

Seems like I still had the xmas decorations up last year while I was reading about the first few gator-nose cars.

Haven't seem even a murmur about when teams plan to release cars this year.
Anybody know when it's gonna start happening?
Mclaren 31st Jan. Sauber and RB 2nd Feb are the only three I know about.
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Old 11-01-2013, 15:00
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Mclaren 31st Jan. Sauber and RB 2nd Feb are the only three I know about.
Red Bull are on the third not the second and Force India are on the 1st of Febuary (assuming they will announce driver line-up at the same time)

Amazed by Helmut Marko's comments about Webber, they are truly staggering...
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Old 11-01-2013, 15:17
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Red Bull are on the third not the second and Force India are on the 1st of Febuary (assuming they will announce driver line-up at the same time)

Amazed by Helmut Marko's comments about Webber, they are truly staggering...
Yep, you are right RB are on the 3rd.

Marko comments are spot on. Webber seems to drive fine for a few races, but cant seem to maintain that level for a full season. I am surprised that Marko aired his feelings in public though.
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Old 11-01-2013, 15:52
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Yep, you are right RB are on the 3rd.

Marko comments are spot on. Webber seems to drive fine for a few races, but cant seem to maintain that level for a full season. I am surprised that Marko aired his feelings in public though.
Marko may be right (although the fact that he so nearly won the 2010 championship implies that he can do it for more than one race) but to air those views so publicly about one of your own drivers is ridiculous. I know he views Seb as the golden boy but still.
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