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Old 27-11-2012, 16:47
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Kat and Sharon's comebacks have been different... It's safe to say Kat was given top billing too soon upon her return and the Baby swap storyline began just three months after her return...

Sharon's comeback as been low key in my view maybe deliberately to ease her back in after six and a half years. Sharon has not had a big storyline yet and LN realised how much of a mess BK turned Kat into she is treading carefully with storylines for Sharon ..

Still I would like to see Sharon have a big 2013
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Old 27-11-2012, 17:19
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As I recall wallace & Ritchie were only lured back with the promise of top billing & decent storylines, I doubt Wallace will play 2nd fiddle to Dean for much longer & both returns have been dire, for no reason other than to boost ratings which ulitmately fails & ruins once loved characters. Im sure Ive read recently Ritchie is already moaning about being better than and wanting to do other stuff, either here or in an article somewhere, I can't remember.
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Old 09-08-2013, 22:52
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last year Kat was hated on here very much like Sharon is this year...

Kat away from Alfie has turned Kat around as a character

Sharon was ruined by Jack and Tanya...

the parallels between Kat and Sharon in 2012 and 2013 are quite clear I think.

Last year Kat was hated and now it is Sharon.

Lorraine Newman may have turned Kat around but she has been less forgiving with Sharon as have some of the posters on here...
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Old 09-08-2013, 23:45
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No, she wasn't. Sharon is by far one of the worst EE characters to ever roam Albert Square - and I'm sure many others agree. Before Sharon came along, Tanya was relatively popular early last year, but that was partly ruined thanks to Sharon. Jack has never been very popular, so it's unfair to say in any way that HE was at all responsible for ruining Sharon... I think you need to accept the fact that you're totally and utterly obsessed with by far the worst EE character right now, and just stop going on & on about the same thing - her being "ruined" - time after time. Ever wondered why people aren't willing to be associated with you on DS? Well, Vaslav, I'm sorry to be harsh, but this is the very reason. Because you are so unwilling to cooperate or even acknowledge what people are saying, in order to help you.
Oh Please.
Well on DS the year before she returned she was voted best character ever.
In Inside Soap she was voted most wanted come back in 2011. I believe the was a similar result in the Radio Times.
Not Grant, Stacey (all popular characters) no Sharon beat them all.
She has had more duff duffs than any other female. And has been in ALL of the 3 top watched episodes of the soap ever. Been a major player in all of them from the divorce papers to sharongate.

I understand Sharon haters but lets not pretend she was not popular that simply untrue she was. So don't attack a poster who actually in this case is telling the truth. You don't like her as many on DS don't. But don't bend the truth. Nobody who tops polls goes through this unless they are written badly which affects everything. Look at Janine I lurked on here and she was hated in Santer/DTCs era many myself included wanted her axed. Kirkwood saved her.

Tanya was never overly popular she had very much split the board in fact before her cancer cold she was unpopular due to be being a bitch to Greg and encouraging him to bond with her son while she shagged his father. Giggling about it in fact. They used cancer to redeem her yuck.

And Jack drags down every female he has been with. No female does well with him I dreaded the idea before it happened that he would get with Sharon as he never does well with women. Rack was the worst it made me hate Ronnie who was far better without him.
Neither Jack or Tanya topped those polls ever either.

And your comments to the poster regardless of myself included not agreeing with all his comments was completely uncalled for. And I would rather associate myself with someone I don't agree with than a immature bully.
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Old 09-08-2013, 23:54
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Sharon was supposed to become the First Lady of Albert Square. Den and Angie's daughter should not be second fiddle to anybody.
Letitia Dean is one of the most beloved stars in the show's history.
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Old 09-08-2013, 23:58
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I don't understand why people can not disagree without being rude and insulting to posters. Just because you have a different view it does not give you the right to be personally rude. Vaslav37 did not deserve to be spoke to in that way and not the first time I notice it has happened.
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Old 10-08-2013, 00:17
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Sharon was supposed to become the First Lady of Albert Square. Den and Angie's daughter should not be second fiddle to anybody.
Letitia Dean is one of the most beloved stars in the show's history.
Den and Angie are long gone. Sharon needs to join them, her character is awful and she is too old to play a fiesty sexy blonde..and she can't act.
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Old 10-08-2013, 00:32
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Den and Angie are long gone. Sharon needs to join them, her character is awful and she is too old to play a fiesty sexy blonde..and she can't act.
I agree with you. Sharon is dated and Letitia Deans acting leaves a lot to be desired. As I've said on here before Letitia Dean's acting as an addict is appalling and "acted" without research. In comparison the actress who plays Rhona in Emmerdale acts the part of an addict brilliantly. This isn't just or even down to writing but the acting. There is no chemistry between Sharon and Denny which isn't going to be simply a child actor's fault. Sharon's had her day and I'd like to see her axed.
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Old 10-08-2013, 00:34
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I've always, always hated Kat!, so her return was never going to go down well with me, and Sharon never did much for me either!

However, i've always loved Janine! but i'm not getting her at all since she returned from her break in the Jungle.
The same with Bernice in Emmerdale. I loved her first time round! but she was a huge dissapointment when she returned.
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Old 10-08-2013, 00:36
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I agree with you. Sharon is dated and Letitia Deans acting leaves a lot to be desired. As I've said on here before Letitia Dean's acting as an addict is appalling and "acted" without research. In comparison the actress who plays Rhona in Emmerdale acts the part of an addict brilliantly. This isn't just or even down to writing but the acting. There is no chemistry between Sharon and Denny which isn't going to be simply a child actor's fault. Sharon's had her day and I'd like to see her axed.
I think she will be axed, her comeback has been a disaster.
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Old 10-08-2013, 00:41
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Why?

Who dreamed up Sharon and Jack?

Answer- LORRAINE NEWMAN

Who dreamed up Sharon and Tanya's Friendship?

Answer- LORRAINE NEWMAN

An Actor can only work with the material they have been given.

I think people are forgetting this and also the fact that Kat was hated on here last year like Sharon is this year...how fickle people are on here!
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Old 10-08-2013, 00:50
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And of course its the writing. How much have they shown Sharon's addiction? Barely anything now compare that to Lauren's? That is bad writing and what is more sad the bit they did show was actually realistic as pain killer addiction is not like other addictions. I cant compare it to Emmerdale I don't watch it or Corrie. But I bet they had showed some scenes, Sharon maybe has had 5 minutes dedicated to it. How was that ever going to work? That is bad writing in favour of the Brannings.

And what has feisty and blonde got to do with age
My aunt is both and easily old enough to be her mother if not older.
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Old 10-08-2013, 00:50
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Why?

Who dreamed up Sharon and Jack?

Answer- LORRAINE NEWMAN

Who dreamed up Sharon and Tanya's Friendship?

Answer- LORRAINE NEWMAN

An Actor can only work with the material they have been given.

I think people are forgetting this and also the fact that Kat was hated on here last year like Sharon is this year...how fickle people are on here!
In my opinion it's Letitia Dean's acting that's to blame. It's not just the writing. As I've said her acting compared with another actor given a similar storyline is dire.
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Old 10-08-2013, 00:55
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In my opinion it's Letitia Dean's acting that's to blame. It's not just the writing. As I've said her acting compared with another actor given a similar storyline is dire.
I spoke to an Emmerdale fan and they told me Rhonda's was explored Sharon's was not. I have worked with addicts the very small amount we saw was realistic but it was barely shown. Laurens has had lots of airtime. Literally 5 minute if you put all the clips together. That is simply not the case on Emmerdale. How can you buy into any story which was never given any attention forget bad writing, there was no writing.

I have worked with addicts when I was training to be a clinical psychologist, she was the perfect demograph for this addiction and most are high functioning adults. What was unrealistic (if she was telling the truth) was saying she was clean after seeing Michelle.
But many EE characters had overnight recoveries Janine and her coke addiction, Phil with his crack. But even these got airtime.
Only time it was dangerous was Janines recovery from PND showing that running away can cure it. Running away was part of the illness to show it as part of the recovery was a very silly message to send out.
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Old 10-08-2013, 00:56
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Anyone who thinks Sharon will be axed is deluding themselves. Just because EastEnders went to shit in 2006 and had to reinvent itself as the low quality BranningEnders doesn't mean Sharon is dated. I agree she doesn't fit in anymore but that's only because the show is so crap! It's nothing at all like it was when Sharon was in it previously. I respect the opinions of those who never liked Sharon. At least they've seen her in the show when it was a lot better than it is now. I have no respect for the opinions of those who think EastEnders began the day they started watching it. This revisionist nonsense about Sharon always being crap and never being an important character is simply bull. I never liked Peggy Mitchell but I'm not going to pretend she isn't an important character in EastEnders history.

People act like it's all Letitia Dean's fault because her acting hasn't been up to scratch this time. I don't deny her acting has been ropey but she hasn't been given the chance to actually play Sharon this time around. The writers have no grasp of the character and have turned her into a stuck up man dependent overbearing junkie. I don't blame her for not being able to act that out because it's not the Sharon she played on and off for 20 years. Jessie Wallace was bloody awful as Kat for at least 2 years upon her return because she wasn't being written the way Kat should be written. The buck stops at the scripwriting team. If Kat can make a return of sorts to her 2000-2005 roots there's no reason Sharon can't return to an earlier, more popular incarnation.
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Old 10-08-2013, 00:59
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Put it this way get a returnee first thing you do is bed them in with characters they know while trying them out with new ones. With Sharon it was the other way round all over the Brannings with next to no scenes with characters she did know. Do that and you lose the history which part of the good thing with a returnee. All because they wanted to validate the Brannings more.
Letitia was treated very badly in this respect.

Imagine Kat returned and had no scenes with Alfie, Stacey, Charlie etc?
Ronnie returns and has no scenes with Roxy?
David returns and has no scenes with Bianca?
If Grant returned and no scenes with Phil and Sharon?
Simply wouldn't happen.
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Old 10-08-2013, 01:02
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Great Post...

People on here seem to forget that Kat was hated from 2011-2012 and now its Sharon who is getting all the hate.

Letitia is not the greatest Actress in the world but this time around they have turned Sharon into a shell of what she used to be...the buck stops with the writing team.

There is mileage in Sharon and lots of storylines for her- lets hope DTC can bring the character back to life because Newman has wrecked her and her lazy band of writers...
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Old 10-08-2013, 02:12
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Oh Please.
Well on DS the year before she returned she was voted best character ever.
In Inside Soap she was voted most wanted come back in 2011. I believe the was a similar result in the Radio Times.
Not Grant, Stacey (all popular characters) no Sharon beat them all.
She has had more duff duffs than any other female. And has been in ALL of the 3 top watched episodes of the soap ever. Been a major player in all of them from the divorce papers to sharongate.

I understand Sharon haters but lets not pretend she was not popular that simply untrue she was. So don't attack a poster who actually in this case is telling the truth. You don't like her as many on DS don't. But don't bend the truth. Nobody who tops polls goes through this unless they are written badly which affects everything. Look at Janine I lurked on here and she was hated in Santer/DTCs era many myself included wanted her axed. Kirkwood saved her.

Tanya was never overly popular she had very much split the board in fact before her cancer cold she was unpopular due to be being a bitch to Greg and encouraging him to bond with her son while she shagged his father. Giggling about it in fact. They used cancer to redeem her yuck.

And Jack drags down every female he has been with. No female does well with him I dreaded the idea before it happened that he would get with Sharon as he never does well with women. Rack was the worst it made me hate Ronnie who was far better without him.
Neither Jack or Tanya topped those polls ever either.

And your comments to the poster regardless of myself included not agreeing with all his comments was completely uncalled for. And I would rather associate myself with someone I don't agree with than a immature bully.
Spot on AP.

You can understand people not liking the character but to then try and underplay their importance in the history of the show is ignorant.

And there was no need for personal attacks on Vaslav




Agree with all the pro-Sharon posts on here.
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Old 10-08-2013, 02:13
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Thank you Guys...
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Old 10-08-2013, 02:20
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Lorraine Newman has completely screwed up with Sharon. Her return to EastEnders was hyped up big time.

As for Kat, I'm sick to the back death with her on-off relationship with Alfie. They should never have been separated in the first place because it was completely unnecessary. The Andy Hunter saga was one of the worst storylines ever.

Kat and Alfie could have been the new Den and Angie had it not been for this endless, tiresome crap.
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Old 10-08-2013, 07:45
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I'm a reasonably new viewer, so last year was the first time I've seen her on screen, but I really don't like her. She just walks along the Square like she is the Queen of Walford. I didn't mind her when she first returned as I thought she worked rather well with Jack, but then it got repetitive after that. I have watched some youtube clips of Sharon in her last stint, and she seemed like a good character, possibly because she had her family around her. But now, she's just a standalone character without any family, and characters like that, like Minty in the past, and Fatboy at the moment, means they fade into the background. I can't really comment on Letitia Dean as an actress as she hasn't really had much acting to do, but I understand that in Sharon's past stints, she was at the centre of the show and Dean delivered as well.

To be honest, at this moment in time, Sharon is almost in the deadwood category of EastEnders characters. But with the right storyline, like Kat has done recently, she could head right to the top again, and maybe DTC is the man to make that happen.
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Old 10-08-2013, 09:29
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I don't get why Sharon and Kat have never brought up how Zoe was involved in Sharon's dads murder.. Kat basically helped get Zoe out the country to avoid questioning if I remember. Is this cos Kat seems to not be allowed to mention Zoe anymore, or are they maybe waiting for a relevant Sharon plot like the Whitney Kat thing?

On topic I do think better writing would bring out better acting from letitia dean. Same as it does with jessie wallace
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Old 10-08-2013, 10:20
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I don't get why Sharon and Kat have never brought up how Zoe was involved in Sharon's dads murder.. Kat basically helped get Zoe out the country to avoid questioning if I remember. Is this cos Kat seems to not be allowed to mention Zoe anymore, or are they maybe waiting for a relevant Sharon plot like the Whitney Kat thing?

On topic I do think better writing would bring out better acting from letitia dean. Same as it does with jessie wallace
They haven't brought up Zoe because they don't care. EastEnders are writing for an audience that started watching after 2006 (when the show became BranningVille) so anything that happened before that doesn't really matter. Hence why Sharon and Janine suddenly don't know each other, why Peggy suddenly hates Sharon, why Dennis wasn't mentioned at all during the New Years Day episode, and so on. The current writing team have no regard for Sharon or her history; she has been written appallingly this time, to such an extent that I wouldn't be surprised if Letitia quit within the next few months.
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Old 10-08-2013, 11:44
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Well thank heavens for DTC - he will no doubt have his own views on Sharon and where he wants to take her, I have no doubt that Letitia herself is relieved that LN has gone/is going.

The show has become too Branning centric under Newman...
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Old 10-08-2013, 12:54
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Anyone who thinks Sharon will be axed is deluding themselves. Just because EastEnders went to shit in 2006 and had to reinvent itself as the low quality BranningEnders doesn't mean Sharon is dated. I agree she doesn't fit in anymore but that's only because the show is so crap! It's nothing at all like it was when Sharon was in it previously. I respect the opinions of those who never liked Sharon. At least they've seen her in the show when it was a lot better than it is now. I have no respect for the opinions of those who think EastEnders began the day they started watching it. This revisionist nonsense about Sharon always being crap and never being an important character is simply bull. I never liked Peggy Mitchell but I'm not going to pretend she isn't an important character in EastEnders history.

People act like it's all Letitia Dean's fault because her acting hasn't been up to scratch this time. I don't deny her acting has been ropey but she hasn't been given the chance to actually play Sharon this time around. The writers have no grasp of the character and have turned her into a stuck up man dependent overbearing junkie. I don't blame her for not being able to act that out because it's not the Sharon she played on and off for 20 years. Jessie Wallace was bloody awful as Kat for at least 2 years upon her return because she wasn't being written the way Kat should be written. The buck stops at the scripwriting team. If Kat can make a return of sorts to her 2000-2005 roots there's no reason Sharon can't return to an earlier, more popular incarnation.

Fantastic reply! Amen!
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