HAHAHAHA

Brilliant.

Why would they need signed permission from Charlie? If Charlie gave her permission, I would have thought her reaction to losing the game when her and Eric were walking back would have been alot stronger if she had known her daughter was behind one of the doors. It was obvious she did'nt know, she just thought they had lost out on a treat. Her daughter is out there with Charlies mum. When Charlie first found out about relatives being behind one door, she immediately thought it would be her mum. Her reaction when she found out it was Kiki, was understandable.

I was being sarcastic. Probably shouldn't. Peace.

God how cool to be on holiday with your Gran in australia when you are 8.
I would have been having a great time.

I'm sure she was disappointed for a bit but she will see her mum soon enough.

Why is she silly for being sad for missing out on seeing her child? You saw how thrilled Rosemary was to see her daughter, it would be exactly the same for Charlie.

now that's what I call common sense

If that was me and my mum had put one of my kids through that I would have been really mad at her which is why I think Charlie already knew about it when she was so sure it was her daughter and not her mum.

I thought she had a completely reasonable reaction, she was clearly upset that she missed a chance to see her daughter.

It really wasn't fake or OTT. Most people would've been just as upset if they were in that situation as well.

I thought I'd seen it all on DS and then this thread came up.

Really. Really?

Wow.

And this is the reason I prefer animals to humans.

I thought her reaction was completely normal what did you expect her to do shrug it off.

I thought it completly normal too , and her concern was also for a little girl who would be excited and then dissapointed .
I thought the whole thing was wrong on the producers part , a child should never be in that situation she was too young .

she didn't react the way i would so i therefore hate her.

Maybe her mother is camera shy ? I don`t watch the sideshow so not sure whether we`ve seen her mum on there or not.

Perhaps her mum thought Charlie would prefer to see her daughter rather than her. Only she knows the reason why they allowed Kiki to be `used`.

Kiki is not three. She is quite old enough to understand the concept of a game, and also that she will see her mother in a few days; in the meantime she is missing school, getting an ultra-special holiday, and will have a little tv clip to dazzle her friends with when she gets home. She didn't look devastated, did she? Just like a child who has just lost a family game of monopoly.

honestly far too much is being looked into this.
charlie was understandably and genuinely upset.
kiki was dissappointed to not have seen her mum but would have been prepared by the IAC crew to expect to not see her.
it was upsetting all round but it's only a few days to wait and in the long run it'll make it more of a reunion for charlie and kiki.

What annoys me most about opinions such as these is that they are completely baseless. I think every intelligent person would agree that that situation is one which would provoke some kind of reaction. How then, knowing everyone is different, are you going to say someone's reaction isn't genuine, because you "felt" like it wasn't. No proof and certainly no evidence to suggest that she wasn't reacting honestly to the situation. It's just blind and hateful.

This idea that Charlie would have to have consented to her child being behind the door, ridiculously naive. Does the child not have a father? Surely someone has been appointed her guardian for the time she was away? Life is not as black and white as you would like to think.

And this ridiculously heartless idea that she's not allowed to miss her child? I honestly do not understand, I don't get it at all. Parents often put themselves in situations where their children are away from them, to criticise them for missing them? Seriously seriously hateful and troubling to read so many are in agreement.

Maybe she wasn't faking but as I've said on another thread I am told from a close friend in the crew that Charlie had given her express permission to involve her daughter in the show - at anytime. It is therefore highly likely and conceivable that there would be an occasion, given that the permission was given, during the series for her to be utilised in some form of game like that. Whilst I didn't see what happened last night if it gave the impression that Charlie was totally unaware that her daughter could be dangled like that for drama then I suggest there was definitely some manipulation going on on the part of the shows makers.

Think about it if the mother didn't know that she would have had every right to be absolutely fuming at the production allowing her daughter to be involved like that. I think you would be naive to think otherwise. As I say I am not accusing Charlie of faking and she obviously looked distressed but if you agree to allow your daughter to be involved like that there has been an error of judgement on more than one's part if you like me felt uneasy.

BIB Sorry, but anyone can say that on a forum.

To be honest I really dont care one iota if you believe me or not. I'm not here to influence the debate one way or the other. I think you need to see through the facade of the entertainment on offer sometimes.

Quite a lot of comment on the thread has been about responsible parenting. If Charlie didn't know that her daughter was being set up like this I really do hope she rips into the production for pulling such a stunt. I know if they did that to me I'd be very very angry.

its more the jump from the bit you quote to

that actually make me at theNet's post. I admit to not seeing all the programmes every year but I dont think its something thats happened like that before? So why on earth it would suddenly be "highly likely" that any permission given would apply to being part of a game/trial

I imagine Charlie's mother would have taken the decision, giving Kiki at least a chance of seeing her mum. Probably the child would be really upset but I imagine she would have got over it quite quickly, or Charlie's mother must have thought along those lines, rather than"haha.. great opportunity to give Kiki an 80% chance of going through hell!"

Just to add - thats no more than my imagination/take on it rather than stating what is highly likely to be truth

I think it's happened before actually. Can't recall the actual series but they have done similar stuff.

Fair enough I stand corrected on that then ta

Yes, because you are The Net talking on The Net people should believe your close friend on set.

Considering you haven't seen the show then there's no need for you to comment yet really, the point about giving permission is silly and just grasping at straws. There was no mention of "oh how could they do that to my daughter" or any talk about permission during the show, just on this forum.

Even if it's true, so what? If she gave permission when the show began that is her right to. It's hardly child abuse. I'm sure that if Charlie had opened the yellow door and seen her child there would be no issue regarding permission right now and everyone would agree that it would be a lovely moment to watch and have happened.

The permission they would have needed was simply to film her child and show her on TV. It's not like she was hanging in a crate above a pit of alligators and Charlie had to win full stars to save her daughter. She was stood behind a door.

How old is she ? she looked around 5/6.