as for jahmene ,yes he needs to man up to fufill his talents .he wont be able to live of his story forever.
Jahmene needs to man up.
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Originally Posted by Cassy990:
“In that case the same could be said of Christopher.”
“In that case the same could be said of Christopher.”
I thought this topic was about Jahmene....
I don't think Jahmene is the soft touch people think he is.if its true he has already told producers he will not sing certain songs ( alcohol related I believe) so is no push over.
I'm putting it down to his age and troubled background but he is very guarded and unforthcoming with his opinions from what I have seen as if he is protecting himself from being potentially ridiculed or he doesn't trust/respect the person who is questioning him...or maybe he is just plain shy..........either way it doesn't come accross as likeable IMO.
Not sure if I really like his voice overall but certainly don't like his improvs when they go OTT and turn into an ugly noise.
Not sure if I really like his voice overall but certainly don't like his improvs when they go OTT and turn into an ugly noise.
I see many of the same people getting offended by the post title, have also posted comments about Rylan "manning up". Hypocrisy.
The only thing he needs to do is to control his voice and stop scratching his nails on a chalkboard during every performance.
Originally Posted by LittleTinker:
“If Jahmene and Chris had to deal with the exact same situation, Jahmene would get on with it quietly and will get to the end by being determined to succeed and putting his heart and soul in to it.
Chris on the other hand, would flounce around, sobbing and shaking saying "I cant do it, I cant do it" then throw himself onto the nearest piece of furniture waiting for some help and support.
I know which I feel is the 'bigger man' and its not Christopher.”
“If Jahmene and Chris had to deal with the exact same situation, Jahmene would get on with it quietly and will get to the end by being determined to succeed and putting his heart and soul in to it.
Chris on the other hand, would flounce around, sobbing and shaking saying "I cant do it, I cant do it" then throw himself onto the nearest piece of furniture waiting for some help and support.
I know which I feel is the 'bigger man' and its not Christopher.”
Why even mention Chris? This is a thread about Jahmene. I neither know nor care which of them is the 'bigger man', and I can see no point in slagging one off to big up the other. What I will say about Jahmene is that he needs to make people focus on his talent, not on his past traumas. I'd also like to see him beef up his vocals and drop the warbling. He actually has a decent voice, but as soon as he starts the vocal acrobatics, I lose interest in his performances.
Originally Posted by wordfromthewise:
“I'm putting it down to his age and troubled background but he is very guarded and unforthcoming with his opinions from what I have seen as if he is protecting himself from being potentially ridiculed or he doesn't trust/respect the person who is questioning him...or maybe he is just plain shy..........either way it doesn't come accross as likeable IMO.
Not sure if I really like his voice overall but certainly don't like his improvs when they go OTT and turn into an ugly noise.”
“I'm putting it down to his age and troubled background but he is very guarded and unforthcoming with his opinions from what I have seen as if he is protecting himself from being potentially ridiculed or he doesn't trust/respect the person who is questioning him...or maybe he is just plain shy..........either way it doesn't come accross as likeable IMO.
Not sure if I really like his voice overall but certainly don't like his improvs when they go OTT and turn into an ugly noise.”
To trust someone interviewing him would be very naive - he seems to have more sense than that. No doubt he neither wants all his private thoughts broadcast or his words twisted. Another sign of his maturity and intelligence.
He had one traumatic incident in his life - many of us have had that. He needs to move on., not trade off it. It is surely ridiculous to suggest that maybe he is now possibly just receiving his first praise as an earlier poster did - clearly he has a very close relationship with his mother who has no doubt praised him a lot.
Originally Posted by Winchester Lady:
“He had one traumatic incident in his life - many of us have had that. He needs to move on., not trade off it. It is surely ridiculous to suggest that maybe he is now possibly just receiving his first praise as an earlier poster did - clearly he has a very close relationship with his mother who has no doubt praised him a lot.”
“He had one traumatic incident in his life - many of us have had that. He needs to move on., not trade off it. It is surely ridiculous to suggest that maybe he is now possibly just receiving his first praise as an earlier poster did - clearly he has a very close relationship with his mother who has no doubt praised him a lot.”
Domestic Violence is a one off incident these days?
Originally Posted by Winchester Lady:
“He had one traumatic incident in his life - many of us have had that. He needs to move on., not trade off it. It is surely ridiculous to suggest that maybe he is now possibly just receiving his first praise as an earlier poster did - clearly he has a very close relationship with his mother who has no doubt praised him a lot.”
“He had one traumatic incident in his life - many of us have had that. He needs to move on., not trade off it. It is surely ridiculous to suggest that maybe he is now possibly just receiving his first praise as an earlier poster did - clearly he has a very close relationship with his mother who has no doubt praised him a lot.”
So years of his mother suffering from domestic violence and then his brother killing himself is 1 incident ?
You are an idiot!
Originally Posted by LittleTinker:
“If Jahmene and Chris had to deal with the exact same situation, Jahmene would get on with it quietly and will get to the end by being determined to succeed and putting his heart and soul in to it.
Chris on the other hand, would flounce around, sobbing and shaking saying "I cant do it, I cant do it" then throw himself onto the nearest piece of furniture waiting for some help and support.
I know which I feel is the 'bigger man' and its not Christopher.”
“If Jahmene and Chris had to deal with the exact same situation, Jahmene would get on with it quietly and will get to the end by being determined to succeed and putting his heart and soul in to it.
Chris on the other hand, would flounce around, sobbing and shaking saying "I cant do it, I cant do it" then throw himself onto the nearest piece of furniture waiting for some help and support.
I know which I feel is the 'bigger man' and its not Christopher.”
What the hell has this to do with Chris. I think you have been sitting with blinkers on. The crap Chris has had thrown at him each week. I think he has more than man d up. They are that concerned about jahmene, they won't even give him an honest critique when he hasn't sang well in case they upset him.
Originally Posted by Betty Britain:
“I thought this topic was about Jahmene....
I don't think Jahmene is the soft touch people think he is.if its true he has already told producers he will not sing certain songs ( alcohol related I believe) so is no push over.”
“I thought this topic was about Jahmene....
I don't think Jahmene is the soft touch people think he is.if its true he has already told producers he will not sing certain songs ( alcohol related I believe) so is no push over.”
That came to me too - he speaks up when he feel strongly enough.
I used Chris in my post because the op is a big Chris fan and keeps referring to Chris as he knocks Jahmene.
Jahmene has not been through "One incident"......hes been through a lifetime of abuse from his father and half a life living in hiding. It isnt something that anyone should ever have to go through.
Nor does Jahmene refer to his childhood every chance he gets. He talks to interviewers as he is contracted to do and answers the questions. He is not in control of how the producers edit his discussions.
Honestly, some posters on here are unbelievable with their critisism of Jahmenes history as though he is flaunting it for votes.
I wonder how those same posters would cope with their own mums being tortured to near death.
Jahmene has not been through "One incident"......hes been through a lifetime of abuse from his father and half a life living in hiding. It isnt something that anyone should ever have to go through.
Nor does Jahmene refer to his childhood every chance he gets. He talks to interviewers as he is contracted to do and answers the questions. He is not in control of how the producers edit his discussions.
Honestly, some posters on here are unbelievable with their critisism of Jahmenes history as though he is flaunting it for votes.
I wonder how those same posters would cope with their own mums being tortured to near death.
Originally Posted by rustyl:
“He doesn't " need " to do anything .
He is doing fine as he is .”
“He doesn't " need " to do anything .
He is doing fine as he is .”
Absolutely agree with this.
I don't post a lot on here for a reason.
Some people are so shallow and nasty towards a person they have never met in their life. Jahmene does come across though as a genuine, decent young person wanting to do something with his exceptional talent for singing. There's nothing wrong with being a little shy and lacking in confidence.
It boils down to jealousy.
Some people are so shallow and nasty towards a person they have never met in their life. Jahmene does come across though as a genuine, decent young person wanting to do something with his exceptional talent for singing. There's nothing wrong with being a little shy and lacking in confidence.
It boils down to jealousy.
Maybe a couple of you should reread my post and this time understand it. I am not an idiot and have worked with people who have suffered very serious traumas. Usual shallow and trite response from one poster - how would you cope if it was your Mum etc. Well, you have no idea what I have actually coped with. Many people's lives are blighted with highly traumatic incidents but they often move on with silent courage, not allow their personal traumas to be publicised for profit.
Originally Posted by Winchester Lady:
“Maybe a couple of you should reread my post and this time understand it. I am not an idiot and have worked with people who have suffered very serious traumas. Usual shallow and trite response from one poster - how would you cope if it was your Mum etc. Well, you have no idea what I have actually coped with. Many people's lives are blighted with highly traumatic incidents but they often move on with silent courage, not allow their personal traumas to be publicised for profit.”
“Maybe a couple of you should reread my post and this time understand it. I am not an idiot and have worked with people who have suffered very serious traumas. Usual shallow and trite response from one poster - how would you cope if it was your Mum etc. Well, you have no idea what I have actually coped with. Many people's lives are blighted with highly traumatic incidents but they often move on with silent courage, not allow their personal traumas to be publicised for profit.”
You obviously are an idiot if you think he " allowed " his personal trauma to be published .
He was moving on in silent courage until he became famous .
That's when the tabloids started digging and found out about his past .
He never wanted it to be published .
Originally Posted by Winchester Lady:
“Maybe a couple of you should reread my post and this time understand it. I am not an idiot and have worked with people who have suffered very serious traumas. Usual shallow and trite response from one poster - how would you cope if it was your Mum etc. Well, you have no idea what I have actually coped with. Many people's lives are blighted with highly traumatic incidents but they often move on with silent courage, not allow their personal traumas to be publicised for profit.”
“Maybe a couple of you should reread my post and this time understand it. I am not an idiot and have worked with people who have suffered very serious traumas. Usual shallow and trite response from one poster - how would you cope if it was your Mum etc. Well, you have no idea what I have actually coped with. Many people's lives are blighted with highly traumatic incidents but they often move on with silent courage, not allow their personal traumas to be publicised for profit.”
He did move on in "silent courage". He was so silent about his traumatic past that he found social situations harrowing.
He has never wanted his personal life publicised for profit but, as with most of these shows, producers and tabloids go digging and find things out for themselves.
When questioned about incidents that happen, sometimes it is better to make sure the truth is being published rather than an embellished one.
Your statement of "He only went through one
incident shows the immaturity and scorn of your post.
Tell us all, what "one incident" are you referring to?? and explain to us why you feel the need to pour scorn on it?
You are right about one thing. Most of us go through something awful at least once and we dont all tell our story to the newspapers,,......however, the reason for that is because noone else gives a hoot. We are not in the public eye. We are not famous. We are not in a position where we can make a difference.
You say you have had your own traumatic incident. Im sure you have. Im also sure that IF you were to ever take part in a show like the X-Factor then it wont be too long before the general public are reading about it.
Dont be so naive.
Originally Posted by LittleTinker:
“He did move on in "silent courage". He was so silent about his traumatic past that he found social situations harrowing.
He has never wanted his personal life publicised for profit but, as with most of these shows, producers and tabloids go digging and find things out for themselves.
When questioned about incidents that happen, sometimes it is better to make sure the truth is being published rather than an embellished one.
Your statement of "He only went through one
incident shows the immaturity and scorn of your post.
Tell us all, what "one incident" are you referring to?? and explain to us why you feel the need to pour scorn on it?
You are right about one thing. Most of us go through something awful at least once and we dont all tell our story to the newspapers,,......however, the reason for that is because noone else gives a hoot. We are not in the public eye. We are not famous. We are not in a position where we can make a difference.
You say you have had your own traumatic incident. Im sure you have. Im also sure that IF you were to ever take part in a show like the X-Factor then it wont be too long before the general public are reading about it.
Dont be so naive.”
“He did move on in "silent courage". He was so silent about his traumatic past that he found social situations harrowing.
He has never wanted his personal life publicised for profit but, as with most of these shows, producers and tabloids go digging and find things out for themselves.
When questioned about incidents that happen, sometimes it is better to make sure the truth is being published rather than an embellished one.
Your statement of "He only went through one
incident shows the immaturity and scorn of your post.
Tell us all, what "one incident" are you referring to?? and explain to us why you feel the need to pour scorn on it?
You are right about one thing. Most of us go through something awful at least once and we dont all tell our story to the newspapers,,......however, the reason for that is because noone else gives a hoot. We are not in the public eye. We are not famous. We are not in a position where we can make a difference.
You say you have had your own traumatic incident. Im sure you have. Im also sure that IF you were to ever take part in a show like the X-Factor then it wont be too long before the general public are reading about it.
Dont be so naive.”
Excellent post!
It definitely shows a lack of insight and empathy from people unable to see why Jaymene is now talking about it.
He wasn't given much choice and has taken the sensible route of giving a true account of things rather than let the tabloids run riot with a lot of half-truths and innuendo.
How anyone can fail to see that is beyond me.
Originally Posted by abigail05:
“Excellent post!
It definitely shows a lack of insight and empathy from people unable to see why Jaymene is now talking about it.
He wasn't given much choice and has taken the sensible route of giving a true account of things rather than let the tabloids run riot with a lot of half-truths and innuendo.
How anyone can fail to see that is beyond me.”
“Excellent post!
It definitely shows a lack of insight and empathy from people unable to see why Jaymene is now talking about it.
He wasn't given much choice and has taken the sensible route of giving a true account of things rather than let the tabloids run riot with a lot of half-truths and innuendo.
How anyone can fail to see that is beyond me.”
I completely agree.
Jahame needs to sing just one song without all that unnecessary warbling.
His mentor needs to get a grip
His mentor needs to get a grip
Originally Posted by kandinski:
“may I ask what people think of his mothers hairstye?”
“may I ask what people think of his mothers hairstye?”
She obviously only has it like that to make people feel sorry for her and vote for Jahmene. She really needs to shave it off and "man up"!
I feel sorry for him with all that has happened to him, and I don't think he needs to 'man up' at all as that's just his personality, but my problem is the constant VTs. And the screaming in his songs too really.
Plus I didn't feel any emotion from his I Look To You or At Last, I found both very dull.
(And don't shoot me down for daring not to add to the unanimous praise of St. Jahmene)
Plus I didn't feel any emotion from his I Look To You or At Last, I found both very dull.
(And don't shoot me down for daring not to add to the unanimous praise of St. Jahmene)
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