[bookaddict]

Originally Posted by Nicola32

That's right..turn it around to PA to deflect from her disgraceful behaviour.

It's a thread about Peter Andre Obviously in any thread about him, KP will be mentioned but no-one is defending KP's behaviour or trying to detract from it.

[lexi22]

Originally Posted by RealityRocks

I'm confused.

As much as marrying someone after six weeks or so is a dumb thing to do, surely this new husband was living in the home prior to him signing a little bit of paper. Why does being married change it for their (Peter and Katie's) kids? Why didn't he moan about it six weeks ago? I'm not sticking up for the woman, she's a disaster zone, but how does it help Princess to suddenly be the focus for this and be on the front of the cheap glossies? At the VERY least, Katie put a stop to that. I mean... who is the bad parent here? The one who is a little too dependent on marriage and love and all the ideals, or the one who makes money pimping his kids out to paparazzi?

While there's little to choose between them in 'integrity' terms, I quite agree: PA is in no position to be taking a high horse stand. They really are an apalling pair of hypocrits when it comes to defending the impact of their actions on the kids.

[SenseiSam]

I don't think there's any evidence that he is taking a high moral stand as he's strongly denied making any comments to the press or authorising anyone to do so on his behalf. Perhaps he's genuinely concerned for Kate considering another DS thread details Kieran's rather indiscriminate wooing of other z-listers before she succumbed to his charms. He's repeatedly said that he'll always love her as the mother of his children and wants her to be happy.

He can be criticised for including his children in his reality show though as this is such an old chestnut I did a time test on the last episode and found they were on screen for around 6.2 mins out of a one hour show. I acknowledge they've featured more in some episodes but I think as a general trend they've been featured less and less. As a father, from what we see, he seems to be concerned about how his life-style affects his children. If anything I find him over-cautious in his relationship with Emily. Come on Pete it's time to let her out of the spare room and give her a kiss - the kids won't be traumatised!

[Blondie X]

Originally Posted by SenseiSam

I don't think there's any evidence that he is taking a high moral stand as he's strongly denied making any comments to the press or authorising anyone to do so on his behalf. Perhaps he's genuinely concerned for Kate considering another DS thread details Kieran's rather indiscriminate wooing of other z-listers before she succumbed to his charms. He's repeatedly said that he'll always love her as the mother of his children and wants her to be happy.

He can be criticised for including his children in his reality show though as this is such an old chestnut I did a time test on the last episode and found they were on screen for around 6.2 mins out of a one hour show. I acknowledge they've featured more in some episodes but I think as a general trend they've been featured less and less. As a father, from what we see, he seems to be concerned about how his life-style affects his children. If anything I find him over-cautious in his relationship with Emily. Come on Pete it's time to let her out of the spare room and give her a kiss - the kids won't be traumatised!

Do you not agree that it probably isn't right that the entire GBP know exactly who these kids are, what they look like etc? They are probably the celebrity kids with the most public exposure.

Yes, other people lets their kids be photographed at premieres, events etc but these kids do seem to have had their faces in the media far more than kids of their age should have done.

[Cym]

Originally Posted by SenseiSam

I don't think there's any evidence that he is taking a high moral stand as he's strongly denied making any comments to the press or authorising anyone to do so on his behalf. Perhaps he's genuinely concerned for Kate considering another DS thread details Kieran's rather indiscriminate wooing of other z-listers before she succumbed to his charms. He's repeatedly said that he'll always love her as the mother of his children and wants her to be happy.

He can be criticised for including his children in his reality show though as this is such an old chestnut I did a time test on the last episode and found they were on screen for around 6.2 mins out of a one hour show. I acknowledge they've featured more in some episodes but I think as a general trend they've been featured less and less. As a father, from what we see, he seems to be concerned about how his life-style affects his children. If anything I find him over-cautious in his relationship with Emily. Come on Pete it's time to let her out of the spare room and give her a kiss - the kids won't be traumatised!

What possible difference can how long they are screened make to the fact that they shouldnt be being filmed/screened/sold at all
Theres no high moral stand to be taken by either side of these parents, because while one brings a new b/f or husband home every full moon the other one has his kids followed and filmed by a film crew of strangers in whats supposed to be their home, a place where most kids get to spend private time with their family, it may be an old chestnut to you, but to them, who knows just wished the over caution he likes to self promote himself with towards emily also extended into him providing better welfare for his kids!!

[fifitrixibelle]

Originally Posted by RealityRocks

I'm confused.

As much as marrying someone after six weeks or so is a dumb thing to do, surely this new husband was living in the home prior to him signing a little bit of paper. Why does being married change it for their (Peter and Katie's) kids? Why didn't he moan about it six weeks ago? I'm not sticking up for the woman, she's a disaster zone, but how does it help Princess to suddenly be the focus for this and be on the front of the cheap glossies? At the VERY least, Katie put a stop to that. I mean... who is the bad parent here? The one who is a little too dependent on marriage and love and all the ideals, or the one who makes money pimping his kids out to paparazzi?

Right let me get this straight...... you knew that she had shacked up with yet another random stranger and you also knew that not only did PA also know this but that he chose not to "moan"

the reality of course is that you do not have the foggiest what PA knew or what he said or even if the latest penis had indeed been moved in.

She marries for twisted revenge, attention and to boost her earnings, she allows strangers close and intimate contact with her children who they possibly become attached too and then she publicly slags them off and they are gone.

She has done a deal and has sold her pictures, which also included pictures of her plastic tit hanging out and flicking the V.

It is this selfish, self absorbed and risky behaviour that has put the "focus" on Princess and on to a front page on this occasion.

[NotaTypo]

Is Peter Andre worried that Princess might end up dating a prolific manwhore? In other words, a man like himself?

[Cym]

Originally Posted by i4u

Peter has also had a fair share of females in his and his children's lives since his split with his former wife, the only thing he hasn't done is marry them.

If both parents have custody of the children would not both parents thave to agree to exploit their children in the way they do, could both parents have a financial agreement re the children?

I think one of thye most shocking things was in one of those mockumentries about in which Peter Andre said Katie Price had the 'image rights' to Harvey. It demonstrated what both parents primary concern was and is.

image rights....terrible I know but if you think how he began to use harvey and KP lookalikes at the start of his err comeback if she hadnt stopped him harvey would have ended up being used just like her other two kids have been

[Cym]

Originally Posted by RealityRocks

I'm confused.

As much as marrying someone after six weeks or so is a dumb thing to do, surely this new husband was living in the home prior to him signing a little bit of paper. Why does being married change it for their (Peter and Katie's) kids? Why didn't he moan about it six weeks ago? I'm not sticking up for the woman, she's a disaster zone, but how does it help Princess to suddenly be the focus for this and be on the front of the cheap glossies? At the VERY least, Katie put a stop to that. I mean... who is the bad parent here? The one who is a little too dependent on marriage and love and all the ideals, or the one who makes money pimping his kids out to paparazzi?

In truth he probably didnt need the media attention a few weeks back, but now of course due to empty seats at his venues , hes feeling the need to comment on something that although has nothing to do with him, does have everything to do with his kids that if he was so concerned about would have led him to a private meeting with a legal eagle rather than a news hawk years ago !!!

[i4u]

Originally Posted by Fizgig

Nor did he move them into the children's home.
And who are we talking here, cos I can only think of Elen Rivas.

If I recall there was a hoo hah when he was banging on about being celibate only for his 'secret' lover to reveal all. Either she or another described how they'd been together out with the kids, so she wasn't just passing through.

The mockumentries are a joke, made by the company that is associated with his management they were supposed to have back passage access to all areas yet often failed to spot goings on. Yet suprise suprise when a series ended there'd be a magazine exclusive about an relationship that had blossomed during filming.

I'd say both parents are the same, one doesn't care what anyone thinks, the other does...but it doesn't mean they don't get up to similar tricks.

[Like an Onion]

Originally Posted by RealityRocks

I'm confused.

As much as marrying someone after six weeks or so is a dumb thing to do, surely this new husband was living in the home prior to him signing a little bit of paper. Why does being married change it for their (Peter and Katie's) kids? Why didn't he moan about it six weeks ago? I'm not sticking up for the woman, she's a disaster zone, but how does it help Princess to suddenly be the focus for this and be on the front of the cheap glossies? At the VERY least, Katie put a stop to that. I mean... who is the bad parent here? The one who is a little too dependent on marriage and love and all the ideals, or the one who makes money pimping his kids out to paparazzi?

Maybe he wanted to spend all his time with his brother?

As a man he has no right to comment on his KP's behaviour as a father he has every right if it affecting the children... imo the constant turnover of men sends a very dangerous message to Junior that men are disposable and not very lovable... and to Princess that you don't need to try just move on if you don't like what you've got.

imo none of the public exposure any of the children have been exposed to is a damaging as their parents tit for tatting juvenile behaviour... or as damaging as KP's inability to be single and her instant moving on to the next man... for the first time I would understand PA going for sole custody since KP clearly cannot put her children's need for stability above her own need for male companionship.

Disclaimer... this does not mean I think PA whiter then white... in fact he is more orange than a can of tango...nor does this mean I think that having the children in his show is a good thing... it clearly isn't.

[fifitrixibelle]

Originally Posted by Like an Onion

Maybe he wanted to spend all his time with his brother?

As a man he has no right to comment on his KP's behaviour as a father he has every right if it affecting the children... imo the constant turnover of men sends a very dangerous message to Junior that men are disposable and not very lovable... and to Princess that you don't need to try just move on if you don't like what you've got.

imo none of the public exposure any of the children have been exposed to is a damaging as their parents tit for tatting juvenile behaviour... or as damaging as KP's inability to be single and her instant moving on to the next man... for the first time I would understand PA going for sole custody since KP clearly cannot put her children's need for stability above her own need for male companionship.

Disclaimer... this does not mean I think PA whiter then white... in fact he is more orange than a can of tango...nor does this mean I think that having the children in his show is a good thing... it clearly isn't.

Well quite....but I'm still baffled as to this notion that seems to have snowballed into actual fact on here that PA even knew about this latest random bloke, and supposing he did, the assumption that he hasn't said any thing to her or that he hasn't consulted legal advice.
Unless I have missed something surely no-one has the foggiest.
But I fully agree with you and whilst PA is being lamented for having a "moan" - I knw for sure if they were my children being exposed to such risky and unsettling homelife I would be worried sick and looking to getting them removed from such an environment.

[DiamondDoll]

Originally Posted by fifitrixibelle

Well quite....but I'm still baffled as to this notion that seems to have snowballed into actual fact on here that PA even knew about this latest random bloke, and supposing he did, the assumption that he hasn't said any thing to her or that he hasn't consulted legal advice.
Unless I have missed something surely no-one has the foggiest.
But I fully agree with you and whilst PA is being lamented for having a "moan" - I knw for sure if they were my children being exposed to such risky and unsettling homelife I would be worried sick and looking to getting them removed from such an environment.

I think you've forgotten that he walked out on his kids.
Please don't anyone bother retorting that he left his wife and not his children. He left his kids behind in the care of a woman who didn't live up to his expectations.I will not be convinced by anyone that he didn't walk out on his wife and his children.
Had he wanted to, he could have taken the children with him and let a court sort it out.
Obviously he cared more about himself and the children were of little consequence when he considered his needs.

[Fizgig]

Originally Posted by i4u

If I recall there was a hoo hah when he was banging on about being celibate only for his 'secret' lover to reveal all. Either she or another described how they'd been together out with the kids, so she wasn't just passing through.

The mockumentries are a joke, made by the company that is associated with his management they were supposed to have back passage access to all areas yet often failed to spot goings on. Yet suprise suprise when a series ended there'd be a magazine exclusive about an relationship that had blossomed during filming.

I'd say both parents are the same, one doesn't care what anyone thinks, the other does...but it doesn't mean they don't get up to similar tricks.

He had a fling, no strings attached with her, the kids only saw her at CP's house one time. He didn't take her home to meet his kids, the only one was Elen. Sorry KP fans, (not you I4u) but she really has won on the boyfriends/husbands meeting and living with the kids competition.

[Fizgig]

Originally Posted by DiamondDoll

I think you've forgotten that he walked out on his kids.
Please don't anyone bother retorting that he left his wife and not his children. He left his kids behind in the care of a woman who didn't live up to his expectations.I will not be convinced by anyone that he didn't walk out on his wife and his children.
Had he wanted to, he could have taken the children with him and let a court sort it out.
Obviously he cared more about himself and the children were of little consequence when he considered his needs.

Just because him & KP grew to detest each other doesn't mean he wanted to render his kids motherless. That's idiocy. A man who walks out on his kids is one who abandons them, doesn't support them in any way & never sees them again (or rarely).

[Geneve]

Do you know what I think KP said it best this week "If Pete has a problem he can pick up the phone and call her" keep it out of the papers.. etc I don't buy that he didn't know what stories were being printed hes in bed with every bloody journalist.

whether you agree or not about KP and her new Hubs its not really the point. I've seen Kids in today's world grow up just fine or relatively unscathed with mothers who are crackwh*res and daddys who walk out on them.

Kids are resilient - as long as they are loved and we ALL know PA loves his kids they will be fine. Nothing a lil Jezza couldn't fix.

[Fizgig]

Originally Posted by Geneve

Do you know what I think KP said it best this week "If Pete has a problem he can pick up the phone and call her" keep it out of the papers.. etc I don't buy that he didn't know what stories were being printed hes in bed with every bloody journalist.

whether you agree or not about KP and her new Hubs its not really the point. I've seen Kids in today's world grow up just fine or relatively unscathed with mothers who are crackwh*res and daddys who walk out on them.

Kids are resilient - as long as they are loved and we ALL know PA loves his kids they will be fine. Nothing a lil Jezza couldn't fix.

But she put it in the papers, as well as her tit out & two's up.
For the rest of your post - omg.

[Geneve]

Originally Posted by Fizgig

But she put it in the papers, as well as her tit out & two's up.
For the rest of your post - omg.

It's true, we are treating both of these people like they are the worst parents and their kids are going to be so screwed up.

I work for the Samaritans and I hear of people who have screwed up their kids.. Kids who call who really are at the end of their tether.. and whos parents don't give a cr*p about them.

These kids... they are well loved have 2 parents that clearly care about them. and a full support network.

[fifitrixibelle]

Originally Posted by DiamondDoll

I think you've forgotten that he walked out on his kids.
Please don't anyone bother retorting that he left his wife and not his children. He left his kids behind in the care of a woman who didn't live up to his expectations.I will not be convinced by anyone that he didn't walk out on his wife and his children.
Had he wanted to, he could have taken the children with him and let a court sort it out.
Obviously he cared more about himself and the children were of little consequence when he considered his needs.

I really don't have a clue what your point is here...though I disagree completely...he left the toxic situation his kids were being exposed to with her ever increasing abusive behaviour.
I think he absolutely put his children first.

However I just do not believe that there is one parent out there who would NOT be concerned at the constant exposure to strangers she shacks up with.....what on earth has that got to do with him leaving ...was he somehow supposed to know this in advance, is this his fault that she shacks up with any Tom, Dick or Harry.
I believe she does this to stick the knife in as she knows he would not give a sh*t if she shagged her way through England. This is the only way she can get her desperate fill of attention, stick the knife in and make a few bob.
The absolute last people she is thinking about is her children.
I hope he does now take legal advice.

[Fizgig]

Originally Posted by Geneve

It's true, we are treating both of these people like they are the worst parents and their kids are going to be so screwed up.

I work for the Samaritans and I hear of people who have screwed up their kids.. Kids who call who really are at the end of their tether.. and whos parents don't give a cr*p about them.

These kids... they are well loved have 2 parents that clearly care about them. and a full support network.

So PA should keep his thoughts on her 3rd man living with his kids private, yet it's ok for her to put this whole sham in for them to read, like the other stuff that comes out of her mouth that she thinks is ok for them to have to hear about from their peers.
What would be the point in him phoning her? He's probably said it all before the last 2 times she's done this.
Did she really need to marry Alex? Did she ever give a crap about him? The kids went to the wedding, lived for a whole year as his step-children. To them it was real.
Did she have to move Leo into the house as soon as she'd met him? Could he not get a small flat & still see her?

[DiamondDoll]

Originally Posted by fifitrixibelle

I really don't have a clue what your point is here...though I disagree completely...he left the toxic situation his kids were being exposed to with her ever increasing abusive behaviour.
I think he absolutely put his children first.

However I just do not believe that there is one parent out there who would NOT be concerned at the constant exposure to strangers she shacks up with.....what on earth has that got to do with him leaving ...was he somehow supposed to know this in advance, is this his fault that she shacks up with any Tom, Dick or Harry.
I believe she does this to stick the knife in as she knows he would not give a sh*t if she shagged her way through England. This is the only way she can get her desperate fill of attention, stick the knife in and make a few bob.
The absolute last people she is thinking about is her children.
I hope he does now take legal advice.

My point is that had he not walked out, none of this mess would have occured.

[Cym]

[quote=Geneve;63837361]Do you know what I think KP said it best this week "If Pete has a problem he can pick up the phone and call her" keep it out of the papers.. etc I don't buy that he didn't know what stories were being printed hes in bed with every bloody journalist.

And that one statement from her is what stopped him in his tracks, as even against a public outcry against her recent ill advised choices she still managed to show him up for the media whore he really is

[Cym]

Originally Posted by DiamondDoll

My point is that had he not walked out, none of this mess would have occured.

He had to walk out DD he had a cd ready to roll and promotions to fly off to in china and bollywood, he didnt even have time to be around for his kids when they would have needed him the most, it was all too toxic for him, but funnily enough though, not too toxic for his kids

[Fizgig]

Originally Posted by Cym

He had to walk out DD he had a cd ready to roll and promotions to fly off to in china and bollywood, he didnt even have time to be around for his kids when they would have needed him the most, it was all too toxic for him, but funnily enough though, not too toxic for his kids

Ahem, we're forgetting the small matters of those 3 articles again aren't we? The ones that are still there, bold as BRASS on numerous websites, including The Sun & The Mirror.

cba

[Cym]

Originally Posted by Fizgig

Ahem, we're forgetting the small matters of those 3 articles again aren't we? The ones that are still there, bold as BRASS on numerous websites, including The Sun & The Mirror.

cba

Articles written by whom hope its by someone neutral like the divorce judge who ruled them both to be responsible for the split