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Old 30-11-2012, 15:48
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Funny how it's the right wing gutter press that always pick up on these stories, normally to a chorus of 'PC GONE MAD!!' bleating from their readers.

I wonder if any of the Daily Mail readers have enough self awareness to understand the real reason the right wing press love to run with these stories?
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Old 30-11-2012, 16:16
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Could you imagine the uproar on here if it was Helen who said it.
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Old 30-11-2012, 16:17
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Could you imagine the uproar on here if it was Helen who said it.
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Old 30-11-2012, 16:45
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Funny how it's the right wing gutter press that always pick up on these stories, normally to a chorus of 'PC GONE MAD!!' bleating from their readers.

I wonder if any of the Daily Mail readers have enough self awareness to understand the real reason the right wing press love to run with these stories?
Ah, one of those who does understand!

Thank you.

-Hugh Letdown, A Proud Member Of "The Thinking PC Brigade"
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Old 30-11-2012, 17:01
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Awkward moment to say the least, clearly she didn't engage her brain when she said that!
That woman hasn't got a brain to engage! Thank goodness she left the show and let's pray that we do not see her ever again.
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Old 01-12-2012, 04:35
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you are goddamned welcome to your annoyance. I will always get outraged on the behalf of my brothers and sisters
OK, how about I, not being remotely religious, get offended over your use of the blasphemous term "goddamned" on behalf of Christians?
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Old 01-12-2012, 07:07
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I thought she said that too. Horrifying !!! Hope it gets picked up on .
The only horrifying thing is the fake offence people take


Picked up in what way?


You hope it gets twisted into something it isnt?
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Old 01-12-2012, 07:46
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OK, how about I, not being remotely religious, get offended over your use of the blasphemous term "goddamned" on behalf of Christians?
Go right ahead.

Only thing is you completely miss the point. Twice.

I take offense because I am as the brothers and sisters being set upon. They are humans and I am human. That is the commonality.

I take personal offense. You make it a point to separate yourself from those you want to play at taking offense for -- what with you "not being remotely religious".

So you see this is the first glaring error in your "logic"; you have missed a big part of my very clear message; you are already completely backwards.

Your other big problem is in equating religiosity with the targets of bigotry being discussed here.

Religiosity is a choice. If someone wants to persist in believing any of the various fairy-tales that the various religions are selling, that's their choice. You have to really resist thinking about things to persist in maintain "faith" in any of these divisive and otherwise insidious fairy-tales. Yer goddamned right you do, get it?

So, sure, you can take offense for "them" if you want to... it doesn't speak to what I have said, but, as I say...

Go right ahead.
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Old 01-12-2012, 08:59
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Go right ahead.

Only thing is you completely miss the point. Twice.

I take offense because I am as the brothers and sisters being set upon. They are humans and I am human. That is the commonality.

I take personal offense. You make it a point to separate yourself from those you want to play at taking offense for -- what with you "not being remotely religious".

So you see this is the first glaring error in your "logic"; you have missed a big part of my very clear message; you are already completely backwards.

Your other big problem is in equating religiosity with the targets of bigotry being discussed here.

Religiosity is a choice. If someone wants to persist in believing any of the various fairy-tales that the various religions are selling, that's their choice. You have to really resist thinking about things to persist in maintain "faith" in any of these divisive and otherwise insidious fairy-tales. Yer goddamned right you do, get it?

So, sure, you can take offense for "them" if you want to... it doesn't speak to what I have said, but, as I say...

Go right ahead.
Calm down love.

Was David offended? If the answer is no then that's the end of the matter.

I dont see anyone supporting racism on here I do see people defending the use of a quite common term of endearment used by someone to someone they were clearly fond of and it has absolutly nothing to do with skin colour. Did Rosemary ever display any characteristics of being a racist in the jungle? No, did Rosemary ever come across a bigot? No ( a bit annoying but not a bigot)

I use it quite often and the use of it has nothing to do with ethnicity, I also call people duck is that racist?

The point is by getting all "offended" by innocent remarks you actually make race an issue in situations where it wasn't until people started jumping up and down being "offended". Save your offence for when it involves something real not something made up because to do otherwise dilutes the arguments and allows those who do have racist attitudes to cry "PC gone mad" which immediately lessens the impact of what you are saying. Remember the story of the little boy who cried wolf, well there is a real danger in this country that unacceptable behaviours and attitudes are going to enjoy a resurgence precisely because some people jump on everything to get offended by
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Old 01-12-2012, 09:11
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Calm down love... [a load of stuff that makes it apparent you haven't taken even the slightest care to respond to what I have said] ...offended by
Uh... why don't you read what I've written here in this thread?



I respond to each person I have an argument with and their quotes that I quote specifically.

Go read what I have written here. See if I am not plenty ahead of you. And, then, if you want you can meet me back here.
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Old 02-12-2012, 02:53
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Was David offended? If the answer is no then that's the end of the matter.
Bravo!
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Old 02-12-2012, 12:38
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Confirmed in a statement from David hayes today in the THE PEOPLE "Rosemary was not being racist she was praising me on my physique!...case over as far I am concerned..the do gooders who pick up on every little detail need to calm down and stop creating racist situations...there is enough real racism to deal with without making issues up!
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Old 02-12-2012, 12:45
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If someone resembles a monkey why are we not allowed to say so, although this is only the case if the person happens to be black.
Wayne Rooney, Emille Heskey and Shaun WrightPhillips have been compared to various primates, but it is only deemed acceptable to voice these comparisons about Mr Rooney.
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Old 02-12-2012, 16:32
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If someone resembles a monkey why are we not allowed to say so, although this is only the case if the person happens to be black.
Wayne Rooney, Emille Heskey and Shaun WrightPhillips have been compared to various primates, but it is only deemed acceptable to voice these comparisons about Mr Rooney.
Its like when people say that the comedian Lee Evans or the presenter Dom Littlewood look like monkeys. Its ok to say it because they are white.
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Old 02-12-2012, 21:04
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So has nobody ever called someone "a little monkey" - either because they're mischievous, funny or just plain irresistible - all of which apply to the adorable Mr. Haye.
Yeahh she was just saying he was mischievous and liked to play around a bit, jeeze people will jump on anything for Racism/Sexism/Ageism nowadays -_-
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Old 03-12-2012, 00:13
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She called him an absolute hunk and said she fancied him rotten, did nobody pick up on that!!
Bullcrap she fancied him. She said what was she was thinking, she is an old fashioned old biddy, her thoughts slipped out..she was in the papers over another racism row before this incident.
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Old 03-12-2012, 00:18
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Calm down love.

Was David offended? If the answer is no then that's the end of the matter.

I dont see anyone supporting racism on here I do see people defending the use of a quite common term of endearment used by someone to someone they were clearly fond of and it has absolutly nothing to do with skin colour. Did Rosemary ever display any characteristics of being a racist in the jungle? No, did Rosemary ever come across a bigot? No ( a bit annoying but not a bigot)

I use it quite often and the use of it has nothing to do with ethnicity, I also call people duck is that racist?



The point is by getting all "offended" by innocent remarks you actually make race an issue in situations where it wasn't until people started jumping up and down being "offended". Save your offence for when it involves something real not something made up because to do otherwise dilutes the arguments and allows those who do have racist attitudes to cry "PC gone mad" which immediately lessens the impact of what you are saying. Remember the story of the little boy who cried wolf, well there is a real danger in this country that unacceptable behaviours and attitudes are going to enjoy a resurgence precisely because some people jump on everything to get offended by
What a sensible post. Well said.
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Old 03-12-2012, 00:22
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Confirmed in a statement from David hayes today in the THE PEOPLE "Rosemary was not being racist she was praising me on my physique!...case over as far I am concerned..the do gooders who pick up on every little detail need to calm down and stop creating racist situations...there is enough real racism to deal with without making issues up!
Good on David for saying this. He reinforces the opinion I had of him in the jungle. Sensible, driven, fair, no chips on his shoulders, a thoroughly nice guy.
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