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^ This.
She clearly didnt mean anything racial when she said it, so why try to make it so? I'm sorry but it does when you try to make something out of it when it was obviously not meant that way. Deliberately taking something out of context and making a deal of it is a little bit wiered I think. |
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No but it can often create issues where non exist.
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Most people are aware of the potential connotations associated with those choice of words. Being socially aware doesn't mean people have issues. For the record I'm not in the brigade.
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No but it can often create issues where non exist.
Someone told my daughter off for saying 'come on then my lovely bunch of coconuts' Apparently you aren't allowed to say that.........she didn't know, I didn't know either. It seems you have to be very careful these days. An innocent remark can be taken out of context.
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I agree with you , I am not in any brigade but being the same age as Rosemary am very aware of what is acceptable and what is not . She simply should have known better .I am sure no malice was intended , but it was thoughtless and she barges ahead when she should think before the speaks
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I agree, which is something Rosemary should also be aware of.
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Perhaps the PCers ought to be a little more judicious also.
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Le't recap, just so we understand what the objection here is
Rosemary recalled, that, on seeing a black man in the jungle, she thought it was a monkey I don't really care whether she 'meant' it in a racist way or not .... it is unacceptable |
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I agree with you , I am not in any brigade but being the same age as Rosemary am very aware of what is acceptable and what is not . She simply should have known better .I am sure no malice was intended , but it was thoughtless and she barges ahead when she should think before the speaks
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Where I live it is a term of endearment - it has nothing to do with race or colour. The meaning of it is - someone who is cute to look at and is totally mischeivious, and a delight to be around. I am not a fan of Rosemary - but I do understand exactly what she means.
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It will be interesting to hear what David thinks of her comments
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It will be interesting to hear what David thinks of her comments
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I would assume the programme is broadcast with a time delay - had the producers thought the comment was offensive in any way they could have cut it out or dubbed over it. She very obviously didn't mean any offence & was speaking about David in a good way.
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So has nobody ever called someone "a little monkey" - either because they're mischievous, funny or just plain irresistible - all of which apply to the adorable Mr. Haye.
I don't believe she would mean to be offensive. |
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It wasnt in that context , she was talking on seeing him walk out of the jungle into camp
I don't think for a second she saw "a black man" - she saw a personality, thank heavens. |
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Le't recap, just so we understand what the objection here is
Rosemary recalled, that, on seeing a black man in the jungle, she thought it was a monkey I don't really care whether she 'meant' it in a racist way or not .... it is unacceptable |
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Can anyone recall the exact phrasing she used?
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I would assume the programme is broadcast with a time delay - had the producers thought the comment was offensive in any way they could have cut it out or dubbed over it. She very obviously didn't mean any offence & was speaking about David in a good way.
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I would assume the programme is broadcast with a time delay - had the producers thought the comment was offensive in any way they could have cut it out or dubbed over it. She very obviously didn't mean any offence & was speaking about David in a good way.
Her not intending offence is most likely the case .But she was thoughlless and silly and lacked awareness IMO |
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You need to go watch it again because Rosemary didn't say that at all, I expect to read your apology in a bit....
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Le't recap, just so we understand what the objection here is
Rosemary recalled, that, on seeing a black man in the jungle, she thought it was a monkey I don't really care whether she 'meant' it in a racist way or not .... it is unacceptable That's a pretty broad interpretation. As the OP , I just wanted clarification on what she said, I caught the monkey but not 'little monkey'...in the context of the conversation about how she thought he was a hunk & phwoar I dont believe she was being offensive |
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But isnt it about how it is perceived? Its all well and good saying no offence was meant.
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She should not of said it however it was meant. She did not like Eric going on about her weight so you would think she would take more care in what she says.
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Can anyone recall the exact phrasing she used?
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Can anyone recall the exact phrasing she used?
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