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Old 29-11-2012, 12:26
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In the fifth answer here

Well maybe it's because you WERE!

It really winds me up the way people like her act in a way that really gets people's backs up... and then flatly deny it and play the victim. Too insecure to take a long, hard look at themselves from the outside...

Oh and by the way, Rosemary - you earn respect, it's not just doled out free like the rice and beans...
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Old 29-11-2012, 12:30
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Agree, she was bossy and controlling, especially with Hugo.
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Old 29-11-2012, 12:33
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Thats mainly because she was bossy and controlling I suppose .
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Old 29-11-2012, 12:34
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She would be a nightmare to be around - and I have a feeling that what we saw was probably the toned-down version.
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Old 29-11-2012, 12:40
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In that article she said she no one should have questioned her on her cooking skills ...........Good job Ashley did or they could have all had salmonella
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Old 29-11-2012, 12:42
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Rosemary is a product of both her time and her experiences in life - she has a 'oh, let's just get on with it' attitude (which is actually an advantage in some situations!) and yes she is a bit 'jolly hockey sticks' and isn't backwards in coming forwards, but that doesn't make her a bad person!

Like Eric, she speaks as she finds - neither have exactly covered themselves in glory sometimes, but then the situation they've been/are in hardly lends itself to that! She isn't a saint, but then no one is - but there are far worse examples of a human being I can think of, and Rosemary isn't unaware of her faults - far from it - but she is a bit 'set in her ways' (as you would expect in someone of her age who's had to make her own way in life for so long to provide for her family on her own) and used to living her life independently of others. That seems to have rubbed some people up the wrong way, but I'd still have her 'on my side' if I needed someone to rely on in a crisis!

ETA I hadn't read the interview before I posted - but Rosemary seems to say a lot of things about herself that I pointed out, so I'm happy with what I've written and I'd still have her on my side!
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Old 29-11-2012, 13:02
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Oh and by the way, Rosemary - you earn respect, it's not just doled out free like the rice and beans...
I always find this slightly odd. Do people need to earn someone's respect ? If this were the case, we wouldn't have any respect for people we had only just met.

I normally find that I have respect for everyone - and then as I get to know them, the respect either remains, increases or is lost.

I don't start off saying 'I've got no respect for you, let's see if you can earn it'
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Old 29-11-2012, 13:08
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how could she of lost two stones ??? she had eaten all the rice !!!!
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Old 29-11-2012, 13:15
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Rosemary is a product of both her time and her experiences in life - she has a 'oh, let's just get on with it' attitude (which is actually an advantage in some situations!) and yes she is a bit 'jolly hockey sticks' and isn't backwards in coming forwards, but that doesn't make her a bad person!

Like Eric, she speaks as she finds - neither have exactly covered themselves in glory sometimes, but then the situation they've been/are in hardly lends itself to that! She isn't a saint, but then no one is - but there are far worse examples of a human being I can think of, and Rosemary isn't unaware of her faults - far from it - but she is a bit 'set in her ways' (as you would expect in someone of her age who's had to make her own way in life for so long to provide for her family on her own) and used to living her life independently of others. That seems to have rubbed some people up the wrong way, but I'd still have her 'on my side' if I needed someone to rely on in a crisis!

ETA I hadn't read the interview before I posted - but Rosemary seems to say a lot of things about herself that I pointed out, so I'm happy with what I've written and I'd still have her on my side!
Good post, I agree with it all!

I always find this slightly odd. Do people need to earn someone's respect ? If this were the case, we wouldn't have any respect for people we had only just met.

I normally find that I have respect for everyone - and then as I get to know them, the respect either remains, increases or is lost.

I don't start off saying 'I've got no respect for you, let's see if you can earn it'
I agree completely with this! Everyone deserves respect, until such time as they do something to lose it! Admiration is earned, but respect is something everyone is due!
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Old 29-11-2012, 13:15
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I always find this slightly odd. Do people need to earn someone's respect ? If this were the case, we wouldn't have any respect for people we had only just met.

I normally find that I have respect for everyone - and then as I get to know them, the respect either remains, increases or is lost.

I don't start off saying 'I've got no respect for you, let's see if you can earn it'
I agree with you. I've always thought it is a silly thing to say.

I respect every man, woman and child on the planet unless they give me a reason not to.

I think that this is where Rosemary gets it wrong. She thinks that people should respect her for her age, that being older makes you automatically better and you should never be questioned on your own behaviour.
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Old 29-11-2012, 13:16
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how could she of lost two stones ??? she had eaten all the rice !!!!
No, she hadn't! They all ate it, they just blamed her for not rationing it!
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Old 29-11-2012, 13:17
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I agree with you. I've always thought it is a silly thing to say.

I respect every man, woman and child on the planet unless they give me a reason not to.

I think that this is where Rosemary gets it wrong. She thinks that people should respect her for her age, that being older makes you automatically better and you should never be questioned on your own behaviour.
That I agree with too .Everyone has my respect till they loose it for some reason .But age or experience does not automatically qualify anyone .
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Old 29-11-2012, 13:18
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Good interview.
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Old 29-11-2012, 13:30
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I soon lose respect for those who expect to be respected. I have to get to know what makes them tick first.
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Old 29-11-2012, 13:34
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In the fifth answer here

Well maybe it's because you WERE!

It really winds me up the way people like her act in a way that really gets people's backs up... and then flatly deny it and play the victim. Too insecure to take a long, hard look at themselves from the outside...

Oh and by the way, Rosemary - you earn respect, it's not just doled out free like the rice and beans...
I think it's odd that you have been so 'wound up' by her, i cant see any reasonable justification for it.

I respect people until they give me reason not to. I think what you have written about earning respect is platitude.
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Old 29-11-2012, 13:35
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how could she of lost two stones ??? she had eaten all the rice !!!!
who are you accusing of lying?

it is said to be 2st 3lb BTW?
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Old 02-12-2012, 00:05
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who are you accusing of lying?

it is said to be 2st 3lb BTW?
who cares what she lost!!!!!
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Old 02-12-2012, 00:06
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who cares what she lost!!!!!
you seem to...

so who are you accusing of lying?
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Old 02-12-2012, 00:42
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Well I would hope Rosemary would tell those people exactly where to go.

And make darned sure they set off in the right direction.

And make darned sure they got there.
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Old 02-12-2012, 00:50
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Well I would hope Rosemary would tell those people exactly where to go.
How would you hope Rosemary tell those people exactly where to go? In a bossy way, or in a way that is too controlling?
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Old 02-12-2012, 00:55
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Well I would hope Rosemary would tell those people exactly where to go.

And make darned sure they set off in the right direction.

And make darned sure they got there.


She seems nice enough, just don't think I could deal with her in large doses.
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Old 02-12-2012, 00:59
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She seems nice enough, just don't think I could deal with her in large doses.
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Old 02-12-2012, 01:03
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A whole lotta bossy
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Old 02-12-2012, 01:33
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From the article:
I just wanted him to be more respectful of me. I've been a chef for 30 years and I've worked my little butt off. I have to get out there and work like 99% of the population, but because he doesn't have to do that doesn't make him a better person; it makes him a lucky person. Have more respect for your elders, Hugo. That's what I really wanted to say."
Hmm sounds like Rosemary had a bit of an issue with Hugo's background. To be honest I really didn't think he was disrespectful to her, at least definitely not over the 'smelly leaves', Rosemary's reaction was in fact far more so.

I think she just didn't like him disagreeing with her in any way because he's a) younger and b) from a privileged background. It's annoying when people think that just because they're older they're always in the 'right' and can dictate 'manners' to everyone else.
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Old 02-12-2012, 02:40
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She is bossy and controlling along with undermining.
I have met/known old fashioned/older generation people and in their day bossy,controlling and undermining people meant the same thing. People on this forum excuse rosemarys behaviour on old fashioned quirks and its bullshite.
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