We never found out who David tutored. I doubt if it was anyone every old as he doesn't look bright enough to teach children whose parents might be paying extra trying to cram them for secondary/middle school entry or smart teens. The point about this task was that it tested the skills needed to be able to interest young children - and if he passed on the practical for a play school aide, he didn't pass on the creative or business side in what was meant to be the area he knew most about.

In contrast some of the people who claimed not to like children, showed a real appitude for teaching them and thinking out what would interest them.

The cultural dancing idea was a bit strange too. They could do some dance moves to appropriate music, but that would need research, and Maria, Lucy and the boys would have to be able to dance. it really needed costumes - but that would have been prohibitively expensive and impractical. The literature idea sounded impossible - how do you do literature, what do you do apart from read books, how do you do any story in a few miinutes? The green idea just led to no obvious content beyond acting Noah's ark, or throwing bottles into one bin and paper in another.....

Fair do but there must be some way that LS can keep tabs on what is going on, we do have anecdotal evidence that the Boardroom filming is often a couple of hours long, so maybe the points raised in the Boardroom by the candidates are discussed by him with both Nick and Karren and, possibly by members of the Production team who have been with them. The point I make is that what we see in the Boardroom could not be enough for him to make up his mind as to who to keep, just on "he said, she said" and a few pithy comments from his "aides".

I have no problem with his accent at all. It's awful to say it but some accents grate - his doesn't.

Andrew doesn't seem to possess any of the traits in Apprentice candidates (young & old) that irk e.g. smugness, arrogance, bullying or nasty comments. A decent young man, I think.

Re the bit in bold, we don't know what they edit out. If Sugar said what we saw on TV & nothing else off camera, then Sugar's remarks simply reflect badly on Sugar.

Yeah, he's decent, but Patrick is decent and doesn't appear to be a strong contender. Being nice isn't enough, and I don't think Andrew is strong at all. I know why people think he is, it's because he comes across as being quite confident and knowing what he's talking about, but if you actually think about what he's done, there is only one task he's done well in.

Task 1: Invisible
Task 2: Strong. Told Sean to listen to the focus group and not to Maria, and later helped deliver a strong pitch.
Beyond task 2: Consistently weak. Even when he won as Project Manager, it wasn't a good win, I thought that even though Steven's team lost, Steven was a better PM than Andrew.

I do miss discussing it live as it were but I can't do Thursday's at 8 so I have to record it and watch it later *stamps feet*

My Very Easy Method Just Seems Useless Now

Navdeep would be aware that she wasn't lying. Yes, she came up with a literature idea, but she also said she'd been thinking science too (though she'd been thinking botany).

Sugar has stated in the past that he doesn't see the footage before the boardroom, as it isn't ready yet. He gets reports from Nick and Karen, and one would think from someone else where the teams split up. He'll also get reports from people they presented to, when he'd laid them on.

Speaking of which, why does we only see Nick and Karren? One would think he'd have more than two people reporting back to him, considering the teams often split. If that's the case, why do they imply on the show that it's just Nick and Karren?

I was n't specifically referring to Navdeep with the lying bit, but the way she said it in the boardroom it was as if she had had the idea at the same time as Maria, if that were so then why did she say Literature first? the bit about Maria's smirk was in reply to another post saying how restrained she had been not to point out the "literature" thing, not a fan of Maria but the smirk must have been because she knew AS would have been briefed on the decisions each candidate had made.

I don't think Navdeep claimed she'd mentioned the idea before Maria did though.

just caught up. DAVID GOT FIRED..............YEAH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I never said she did! but if she were being honest, she would have said to AS, "Maria had the idea about Science, I suggested Literature but had the Science idea at the same time but thinking of Biology", but she missed the fact that she mentioned Literature and just concentrated on the amazing Science coincidence! if she had really thought of Science at the same time as Maria, she would not have suggested Literature in the Brain storm. it just seemed a bit of bandwagon jumping.

Dont get me wrong, I like Navdeep, (Maria, not so much).

We don't know that she didn't mention literature in the Boardroom. The Boardroom is edited just as much as the footage of the tasks.

If she mentioned it, why would they edit it? anyway, Im not getting into all this "he said she said" thing, my original post was about Maria's reaction to what Navdeep said about thinking of Science at the same time (the smirk) which was replying to another post about her restraint in the boardroom this week! now we have got on to whether Navdeep did or did n't talk about Literature! I have no strong views about the editing or otherwise as I am not there I can only post on what I see.

To make it look like she was taking the credit! The producers edit the footage to make people look better or worse than they actually are.

I quite liked Ashleigh until this week, she isn't open to other people's ideas, picked on a candidate who seemed weak yet relatively performed better than herself on the task and she sounded so arrogant in the boardroom. Her only saving grace was to not bring Lucy back, I thought that was decent. The way she speaks really annoys me too. It is kind of the thing that when someone annoys you, everything about that person begins to annoy you, her accent etc didn't bother me until this week.

I cannot warm to Maria at all, you can't be a successful businessperson if you have to shout and railroad over other people. Perhaps she is different away from the cameras.

Patrick really annoys me, he seems about 90% useless.

I'd like to see Ashleigh or Maria go next.

I'm glad that David's gone purely because it means next week the dynamic changes, he didn't deserve to go this week though.

Navdeep did quite well apart from costings. I also like Lucy and Stephen at the moment.

But you don't know that that particular bit was edited! it did not seem edited to me, it flowed quited normally. Think you are getting a bit paranoid.


Maybe, but it does n't alter the fact she bought David in instead, she saw him as the weaker of the two because of his previous "form" in the Boardroom, nothing decent about it, just predator and prey.

I'm not paranoid, it was just a suggestion. I like Navdeep anyway.


So you think Lucy should have been in the boardroom, over David?

I dont think either of them should have been in there tbh, they did their bits perfectly competently and made no mistakes, so why take David in over Lucy? because he was the weaker one due to being in the boardroom before so she knew he stood more chance of going. rather neither of them had gone and he had fired Ashleigh!

George, I like Navdeep too! You just seem to overthink the editing thing.

Ashleigh did badly on this task, but I hardly think it's fair to judge her for bringing David into the boardroom. The format says that she has to bring in two people, and if she hadn't brought him in, she'd have had to bring in Lucy and then she definitely would have been fired for bringing back the wrong person. All she was doing was looking out for herself, what's wrong with that? I think we'd all do the same in that situation.

I think based on the task, Ashleigh deserved to go, but based on all five tasks, David did. At this point Lord Sugar is thinking about the whole process, not just the individual tasks.

Bully tactics work once again. Wrong person went home. Ashleigh lost the task 100%, but went with the notion that David was useless, despite the fact he was the strongest member of the team this week and like Nick said, if it wasn't for him, even the presentation would have been rubbish.

How did Lucy get off for championing a different idea, but David didn't, despite the fact he was more vocal about it. It really is baffling. This tactical voting is beyond stupid now.

Also how the heck is Patrick still in.

David went because he's been consistently useless. He's already been given too many chances. It's not hard to understand.

Which is exactly what I have been saying she bought David into the Boardroom as a tactical measure, we are both agreed on that, I don't get why you keep saying she did no wrong, no she did n't according to the rules and yes, she did it to save her own skin, everyone gets that, I was asked why I thought she bought David in instead of Lucy and why, and I answered the question! in fact, David and Lucy were equally good in this task but Lucy was not as good on the play thing as David, so in fact she had as much right to be bought in as David, but as you say, Ashleigh knew David's track record would go against him, in my opinion David was not as bad as painted, he performed no better of worse in all 5 tasks as the others (and better in some), but for some reason he was seen as one of the weaker ones, as he kept being bought back, but many of those times it was for a pretty specious reason, the more times he was bought in, for whatever reason, the more he was seen as weak, it was a self fulfilling prophesy.


See above.