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What did Lucy do wrong on this task? What did David do so well? I missed that.
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What did Lucy do wrong on this task? What did David do so well? I missed that.
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Which is exactly what I have been saying
she bought David into the Boardroom as a tactical measure, we are both agreed on that, I don't get why you keep saying she did no wrong, no she did n't according to the rules and yes, she did it to save her own skin, everyone gets that, I was asked why I thought she bought David in instead of Lucy and why, and I answered the question! in fact, David and Lucy were equally good in this task but Lucy was not as good on the play thing as David, so in fact she had as much right to be bought in as David, but as you say, Ashleigh knew David's track record would go against him, in my opinion David was not as bad as painted, he performed no better of worse in all 5 tasks as the others (and better in some), but for some reason he was seen as one of the weaker ones, as he kept being bought back, but many of those times it was for a pretty specious reason, the more times he was bought in, for whatever reason, the more he was seen as weak, it was a self fulfilling prophesy.See above. ![]() She doesn't have to get to stage two and think tactically about David's abysmal record, or that that it is a fair reflection of his lack of ability, or that she and all the others want to get him out as he's dead weight. She doesn't even have to note that Lord Sugar wanted to get rid of David last week for another non-performance, or that he signalled her very clearly that he would find enough fault with David to send him home this week. Same with Andrew . There no reason for him to be there except he isn't Lucy. The question is even easier for Lord Sugar. He wants to get rid of David because his record is terrible.He clearly would have fired him last week given any chance. He rates Lucy and Ashleigh - and Ashleigh has credit she can bank. Andrew has mde a surprisingly bad impression, but no one but Patrick has been as bad as David. David has to go. |
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Ashleigh has to bring 2 people back. Lucy has done well previously and got most right on this task. The two Ashleigh has to bring back with her are inevitable once she decides that bringing Lucy back is unfair, dangerous as Lucy will focus attention on her not listening to Lucy, and she will be torn apart by Lord Sugar for bringing the wrong person back.
She doesn't have to get to stage two and think tactically about David's abysmal record, or that that it is a fair reflection of his lack of ability, or that she and all the others want to get him out as he's dead weight. She doesn't even have to note that Lord Sugar wanted to get rid of David last week for another non-performance, or that he signalled her very clearly that he would find enough fault with David to send him home this week. Same with Andrew . There no reason for him to be there except he isn't Lucy. The question is even easier for Lord Sugar. He wants to get rid of David because his record is terrible.He clearly would have fired him last week given any chance. He rates Lucy and Ashleigh - and Ashleigh has credit she can bank. Andrew has mde a surprisingly bad impression, but no one but Patrick has been as bad as David. David has to go. Im actually looking forward to the next episodes as now their scapegoat has gone they will either have to up their game or find another scapegoat.... should be interesting
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Ok fine, I give up
Im actually looking forward to the next episodes as now their scapegoat has gone they will either have to up their game or find another scapegoat.... should be interesting ![]() Did anyone notice that Lord Sugar phrased his question to Ashleigh about who would be in the final boardroom in an unusual way? Usually he asks the project manager who they are bringing back in, but on this occasion, he asked her who she was going to let go back to the house... |
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David went because he's been consistently useless. He's already been given too many chances. It's not hard to understand.
Didn't trouble Sugar this time. And the start of episode 5 summarised, as always, the previous episode (the afternoon tea task). On the results being announced, Sugar said "David, your team bailed you right out of trouble here". It's no surprise that he fired David (whether or not people agree with his decision). |
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It's interesting that Sugar normally gets really annoyed with any losing PM who says he/she selected someone for the boardroom because of what happened in previous tasks.
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Just saw the start of last week's episode, where the contestants gather together to play the video of Blofeld on an iPad, speaking from his underground lair as he sets out the task.
The contestants are about to play the video. A few stragglers haven't come downstairs yet. So Andrew says "All right guys, come down here". (Fair enough). In contrast, Maria says "Hurry up you lazy boy, come on". Was she taught no manners? What a low EQ she must have (EQ, not IQ). |
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...also, in the same summary of the afternoon tea task, Maria is shown in the boardroom saying "Sorry, I need to calm down because... can I just breathe for a second? Because I know that I'm actually going to get VERY angry here".
I find that really worrying. Especially at her age. |
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Well, for the presentation, Lucy died on her arse trying to get the grumpy kids to put on the paint, David in the mascot suit got them going, and even Nick said he saved the Presentation,
Besides, I doubt if Lord Sugar is looking for a childrens playleader. |
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...also, in the same summary of the afternoon tea task, Maria is shown in the boardroom saying "Sorry, I need to calm down because... can I just breathe for a second? Because I know that I'm actually going to get VERY angry here".
I find that really worrying. Especially at her age. |
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Lucy was doing well enough. David had the advantage of being in a funny costume.
Besides, I doubt if Lord Sugar is looking for a childrens playleader. Child "no" (grumps). Lucy "oh". Anyway Im not playing anymore the scapegoat is gone, no point in arguing about it so we shall tune in next episode and see who the next "Fallguy will be!"
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Lucy "would you like to have your face painted?"
Child "no" (grumps). Lucy "oh". Anyway Im not playing anymore the scapegoat is gone, no point in arguing about it so we shall tune in next episode and see who the next "Fallguy will be!"![]() David did nothing much in the previous tasks. He really isn't a scapegoat. |
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It's interesting that Sugar normally gets really annoyed with any losing PM who says he/she selected someone for the boardroom because of what happened in previous tasks.
Didn't trouble Sugar this time. And the start of episode 5 summarised, as always, the previous episode (the afternoon tea task). On the results being announced, Sugar said "David, your team bailed you right out of trouble here". It's no surprise that he fired David (whether or not people agree with his decision). He doesn't like people doing what he thinks is his job or throwing arguments at him because people think he will like that argument. That means saying X is better than Y, or X has done better over the weeks than Y often gets a rebuke, as does sounding if you are obviously trying to manouver him. The best people though can read him really well and can nail the right argument that will appeal to him - and people like Stuart Bagg have done well in the past knowing know how to appeal to his instincts. This time, the team didn't have to open up David's record as it had been opened for them by Lord Sugar and they could bring it in anyway by suggesting that it was the usual problem when asked about his performance. It seems he's got a pretty good idea of who he's interested in - which may be based on performance - but may be based on what they are interested in and what he can do for them. Not sure he will want to be popping to distant parts of the UK either - so geography may matter too. The interesting bit was how he seems to have written Andrew off at the same time as the girls had negative things to say too - you wonder whats happened there. He's already written off Patrick, and raised questions about Navdeep, and he now has Ashleigh stepping back. Maria is on report, and after her there's not many candidates left. |
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Also their secret business plan is a factor. It was embarrassing last time when he had to not let the obviously best candidate win because he was just going to spend the money on university fees. People with rubbish ideas are very likely to be fired before the final.
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Also their secret business plan is a factor. It was embarrassing last time when he had to not let the obviously best candidate win because he was just going to spend the money on university fees. People with rubbish ideas are very likely to be fired before the final.
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Except Zara proved she was embarrassingly inept as a film-maker in the ad task, and that was the business she wanted investment in. I wonder how her business is doing now?
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Except Zara proved she was embarrassingly inept as a film-maker in the ad task, and that was the business she wanted investment in. I wonder how her business is doing now?
Zara is at boarding school now, so I imagine that her business hasn't taken off yet. |
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Piggy Panic was total balls. The ad was terrible. She showed NO ability as a film-maker. Just my opinion - James should've won except he had no business idea - hence I am saying this series will not let anyone without a good business idea anywhere near the final - and they don't tell us what the business plans of the fired were, so we can't tell if that was a factor in their firing - as i suspect it is.
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Piggy Panic was total balls. The ad was terrible. She showed NO ability as a film-maker. Just my opinion - James should've won except he had no business idea - hence I am saying this series will not let anyone without a good business idea anywhere near the final - and they don't tell us what the business plans of the fired were, so we can't tell if that was a factor in their firing - as i suspect it is.
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Yeah, one kid was a bit awkward so Lucy sucks. I don't think so.
David did nothing much in the previous tasks. He really isn't a scapegoat. |
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Sorry boys
just got back from Christmas shopping and was spoiling for a fight ignore my previous post. (except the bit about editing, I meant that bit ).
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I get it, you all fancy Lucy and when men fancy a girl she can do no wrong, can we please just drop this now? I dont want Lucy to go anymore than you do, I think she is perfectly competent, but I think David got a bum deal by the other apprentices as they singled him out right from the start, you all keep banging on about editing in relation to the girls, does it not occur to you that maybe David was being edited badly too? or does that only apply to pretty girls.?
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I know you took it back, but The Apprentice has been running for about ten years and I've never seen much evidence of people favouring the candidates they find most physically attractive.
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I get it, you all fancy Lucy and when men fancy a girl she can do no wrong, can we please just drop this now? I dont want Lucy to go anymore than you do, I think she is perfectly competent, but I think David got a bum deal by the other apprentices as they singled him out right from the start, you all keep banging on about editing in relation to the girls, does it not occur to you that maybe David was being edited badly too? or does that only apply to pretty girls.?
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she bought David into the Boardroom as a tactical measure, we are both agreed on that, I don't get why you keep saying she did no wrong, no she did n't according to the rules and yes, she did it to save her own skin, everyone gets that, I was asked why I thought she bought David in instead of Lucy and why, and I answered the question! in fact, David and Lucy were equally good in this task but Lucy was not as good on the play thing as David, so in fact she had as much right to be bought in as David, but as you say, Ashleigh knew David's track record would go against him, in my opinion
David was not as bad as painted, he performed no better of worse in all 5 tasks as the others (and better in some), but for some reason he was seen as one of the weaker ones, as he kept being bought back, but many of those times it was for a pretty specious reason, the more times he was bought in, for whatever reason, the more he was seen as weak, it was a self fulfilling prophesy.
just got back from Christmas shopping and was spoiling for a fight