All standards are different however.

Anyways to An extent i would say that MDNA has elements generic to todays culture and Hard Candy obviously had Timbo/Lake and Pharell that harkened to the contemporary era of then with some exceptions.

But Confessions was anything but generic...i mean tbh you could say all 10 studio albums 1983 - 2005 Madonna never catered to the current trend...she was the trend (and in many ways still is) Confessions On A Dance Floor in the mid 00s dared to not cater towards the then forefronted R&B/Hip Hop styles and stylistically as an album really ensured sonvs that melodically were interesting and cranked styles together....it meshed together Madonnas reflective eprsona of that time linked with sense for mixing genres together and Price immersed himself within this...and it was shown across the album.

I am personally just gutted (like with American Life before it) more singles/visuals werent showcased from the respective albums....i mean Madonna and Steven Klein i reckon would have made a fantastic mini film of songs across the Confessions campaign...am gutted it never happened really (Hung Up/Sorry/get together/Let It Will Be/Jump/How High/Like It Or Not would have made a sublime film with impressive visuals across it...why did they not do this?) Plus i would also argue that Hung Up and Sorry have very much become respective songs "to sing to" in their own right, get together and jump also i feel match up to Into the groove and holiday and la isla bonita for example in terms of motivation, feels and pace...they are captivating pieces of music

But again its all down to taste and perspectives. Its complicated to analyse the current musical state of affairs because music today is so so much more disposable...hense why Rihanna releases more and more evry year, why katy Perry makes sure every single has a video from the majority of an album to sell as much as possible, why the likes of Bieber, 1 Direction are worldwide sensations...its nothing due to "talent" or "artistry" its who has the catchiest song/look right now? Which is what differenciates Madonna from anything out there now! So if the VMAs etc are all about these guys then i am so glad Madonna has not been nominated nor associates herself with it anymore.

2009 was the final great VMA year IMO, the MJ tribute, Madonnas speech, Janets performance, Lady gaga at her peak with a bloodied Paparazzi these were all most talked about events and that ultimately was the death of what MTV stood for :/....sad but very true.

MTV used to be Madonna TV! now its Mess TV one day it may go back to its roots....heck it may need to with ratings and interest at an all time low....and we will see.

But it used to be about the art, direction, challenging the system, and embracing unity but now its unnecessary commercialism :/.

Sorry if that was all long winded....but i feel some points need to be emphasised.

....Madonna entered the Mojave Desert to film Frozen

Time has flown by...i was 6 when the single was released and i rememebr the very first time i saw the video in all its glory and being so scared but taken in by it all and i remember asking my mum and dad (who were also present and fixated themselves) questions whenever something strange happened in the video (dog transformation, multi-arms etc) and them getting cheesed off with me ...also remember her Lottery performance very well also

man...15 years

I keep forgetting how young you are! You're still a babby compared to me! Awwwwwww!!!!

nawww dont do that ur making me all...

The link to YT i sent a few posts back on here was basically me in 1995 when my parents played her albums/singles

Oooh that reminds me! Magic placed Frozen at #64 on their countdown of the 101 Greatest #1s ever!

SHould be fekkin higher

Still EPIC!!!!! March is now gonna be a great year for me music wise....Bowie returning (at 66 happy Bday Bowie!) and MDNA Tour at tother end of March (most hotly tipped) aaaah cannot wait XD

While browsing (dont ask) i found this very insightful backstory into how Madonna came to be so musically INTO everything and how free minded she was...bar a few funny lines from an Ex of hers in her teen years (the boyfriend she took to see Bowies Diamond Dogs tour) its a proper good read

http://www.independent.co.uk/arts-en...ut-463608.html

Madonna...Behind Blonde Ambition rare footage

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J4BhZyd2Av8

Great! Josh, we usually have the same taste in music, but I have to admit I don't quite get David musically. I appreciate him as a fashion and gay/bisexual icon, but the new song or even a lot of his older stuff just doesn't do it for me. It's a little slow and depressing for me, plus the vocals aren't that appealing to me. I guess I'm not hearing what everyone else is since the reaction seems to be so positive. Madonna has cited him as an influence but it seems more as a fashion and style icon, musically they don't have much in common.

We are always en vogue dahling

Tbh Bowie epitomises something bold and forward thinking wih his music....he incorporates style with music much in the same way Madonna does....the music reflects the artistry reflects the style and look of an album and era....for example when he released Ziggy Stardust the actual album in 1972....the persona of Ziggy didnt come alive until he was on stage almost a year later and he symbolised the life and the death of that character on the album and then recreated in live performance...due to the success of that Bowie reinvogorated a scene in ROck/Pop culture in Britain and then with Aladdin Sane translated globally....recreating similar themes and new aliases/alter egos....i think what Bowie and Madonna have musically similar is the fact that Boie always had an ear for new trends....the Plastic Soul of Young Americans album (i think you will love that one gigi its very deep and melodic and soulful!) was never done before....much like when Madonna incorporated House into Rock/Dance Pop styles for example...and then later Bowie did his Berlin Triilogy - Low, Heroes, The Lodger which was influenced by Kraftwerk and Berlin underground music.....again Madonna in Ray Of Light/ Music/ American Life incorporated Electronica/Techno/Trance in a way that only Bjork, Daft Punk did prior....so i guess you could say that is similar.

Plus both are their own creations...although it took Bowie three albums to find himself and his own identity with Madonna it only took one album and ever since then of course she evolved....so there are those similarities there too....but Madonna i very very influenced all over the spectrum which is why i love her....like the article said...its a blend of Punk/Cartoon&Comic/Dancey style she had and has evolved across time that i so adore about Madonna...in a way that Bowie was so Alien/Rock N Roll/Absurd perhaps....either way she is the Queen and he is the King in my eyes definitely.

But Young Americans is my personal favourite and i think out of all his albums that is an area to venture gigi most definitely....sorry if it was long winded...the last thing id want to do is be accused of only reading wikipedia and rewriting history now isnt it

But yeah check out YA if you can and when you can....all his albums are in full on YT...no excuses...run boy run haha

oh...and as for his new song....its not repeat worthy unfortunately...span it on YT three times and its kinda lost its OOOMPH...i think its because it is !"WOAH NEW BOWIE" that did it for me lol....i like the video though

When I said I wasn't into David, I was more talking about the new song. I agree it's not repeat worthy. I will have to go back and listen to his older music since I'm not really that familiar with his stuff like I am with Madonna. I do like Young Americans and I know some people say he was selling out but I really like Modern Love and Let's Dance from the 80's.

I cannot believe the Lets Dance album is his best...ironically the follow up album Tonight i think is the worst hes ever done and thats his second biggest selling....kinda hints back to the strange debate earlier....ugh man :sleep: lol.

But yeah...i think it was hysteria and then....hmmmmmm with it...ill get the album anyway but the cover art depresses me somewhat....how fekkin lazy lol!

It took me a while before i ventured into Bowies catalogue also gigi...it does require more time....but like Madonna salbums often time makes you go back and reassess and it just blossoms with time

its been a joy to see the skiing pictures with her children, i am glad she is taking some family time out. just thought i would share this latest status update, i think her commitment and vision on this issue is truly inspiring.

in other news, her brother christopher mouthing off again :yawn: and this time he`s wading into the gaga copying debate.:sleep: however, to be fair, he actually makes a interesting observation.

It is inspiring and i do love her association with Malawi and her passion and drive there

And "interesting" is indeed the operative word there....Chris is a bit of a dark horse...dont know which way to take anything with him lol. But it is kinda true to a degree, some of the comments are a bit rediculous and stupid bile thrown out there tbh...But there is a point there same with many contemporary Popstars overall really...

What's everybody's rank of albums, songs and tours?

Here's mine

Top 12 Albums...

1. Confessions on a Dance floor
2. Ray of Light
3. Hard Candy
4. Music
5. American Life
6. MDNA
7. Like a Prayer
8. True Blue
9. Like a Virgin
10. Madonna
11. Erotica
12. Bedtime Stories

Top 12 Songs...

1. 4 Minutes
2. Sorry
3. Hung Up
4. Open Your Heart
5. Like a Prayer
6. Who's That Girl
7. The Power of Goodbye
8. Drowned World/Substitute for Love
9. Into the Groove
10. Get Together
11. Girl Gone Wild
12. Borderline

Top 5 Music Videos...

1. 4 Minutes
2. Sorry
3. Give Me All Your Luvin'
4. Open Your Heart
5. Who's That Girl

Top 5 Tours...

1. Confessions Tour
2. Sticky & Sweet Tour
3. Reinvention Tour
4. MDNA Tour
5. Blond Ambition Tour

Interesting rankings

For me tis (the top 3 positions stay around the same....the rest vary time to time)

1 - Like A Prayer 10+/10
2 - Erotica 10/10
3 - Confessions On A Dance Floor & American Life 10/10
4 - The First Album 10/10
5 - Ray Of Light & Like A Virgin 9.5/10
6 - Music & MDNA 9.5/10
7 - True Blue & Hard Candy 9/10
8 - Im Breathless 8.5/10
9 - Bedtime Stories 8.5/10

top ten videos -

1 - Bad girl
2 - Express Yourself
3 - Bedtime Story
4 - Like A Prayer
5 - Frozen
6 - Borderline
7 - Open Your Heart
8 - Cherish
9 - Oh Father
10 - Erotica

Top 10 singles (its a toughie) -

1 - Like A Prayer
2 - get together
3 - Keep It Together
4 - Borderline
5 - Rain
6 - Live To Tell
7 - Bad girl
8 - Nothing Really Matters
9 - Express Yourself
10 - Dress You Up

Top 10 album songs (interchangeble...and very difficult!)

1 - Spanish Eyes
2 - Words
3 - Till Death Do Us Part
4 - Skin
5 - Thief Of Hearts
6 - Love Tried To Welcome Me
7 - Let It Will Be
8 - Intervention
9 - Physical Attraction
10 - Paradise (Not For Me)

World Tour Ranking

1 - Blond Ambition World Tour
2 - The girlie SHow World Tour
3 - The Confessions Tour
4 - The MDNA Tour
5 - Reinvention Tour
6 - Whos That girl World Tour
7 - Sticky & Sweet Tour
8 - The Virgin Tour

Top 5 albums:
1. Like a Prayer
2. Ray of Light
3. Erotica
4. True Blue
5. Like a Virgin

Top 10 singles:
1. Live to Tell
2. Like a Prayer
3. Frozen
4. Take a Bow
5. Ray of Light
6. La Isla Bonita
7. Bad Girl
8. Vogue
9. Who's That Girl
10. Into the Groove

top 10 album songs:
1. Sky Fit Heaven
2. Spanish Eyes
3. Why's It So Hard
4. Pretender
5. Masterpiece
6. Swim
7. Survival
8. Where's The Party
9. Till Death Do Us Part
10. Skin

top 5 tours:
1. Blond Ambition
2. The Girlie Show
3. Sticky and Sweet
4. Confessions
5. MDNA

top 10 videos:
1. Like a Prayer
2. Vogue
3. Rain
4. Frozen
5. La Isla Bonita
6. Like a Virgin
7. Hung Up
8. Secret
9. Bad Girl
10. Express Yourself

It's really interesting to see other people's rankings of their favourite albums, songs, tours etc.

We are all a very interesting bunch it has to be said hehe! It is brilliant though!

Top Albums...
1. Like A Prayer
2. Ray of Light
3. Erotica
4. True Blue
5. Confessions on a Dance Floor
6. Madonna
7. Like A Virgin
8. MDNA
9. Music
10. Bedtime Stories
11. Hard Candy
12. American Life

Top 10 Songs...
1. Vogue
2. Like A Prayer
3. Hung Up
4. Express Yourself
5. Erotica
6. Justify My Love
7. Papa Don't Preach
8. Holiday
9. Into the Groove
10. Music

Top 10 Album Songs
1. Falling Free
2. Nobody Knows Me
3. Future Lovers
4. I'm Addicted
5. Gang Bang
6. Paradise
7. Spanish Eyes
8. I Don't Give A
9. Physical Attraction
10. Sky Fits Heaven

Top 10 Music Videos...
1. Vogue
2. Express Yourself
3. Justify My Love
4. Like A Prayer
5. Rain
6. Erotica
7. Don't Tell Me
8. Papa Don't Preach
9. Frozen
10. Music

Top Tours...
1. Blond Ambition Tour
2. The Girlie Show
3. Confessions Tour
4. MDNA Tour
5. Sticky & Sweet
6. The Virgin Tour
7. Drowned World Tour
8. Reinvention Tour

Another spin on a list, fantastic to look at arrangements

New Truth Or Dare promo pic leaked

https://fbcdn-sphotos-g-a.akamaihd.n...93692635_n.png

I love it, very Old Skool Hollywood and very intense

You knkw reading about upcoming music and stuff its so scary to think that a year ago we were all getting so hyped for Madonnas Superbowl. time has flown by!