I don't mind Avicii. I think his music is more diverse than the standard dj. I really like his album True. It has a lot of different influences. He uses guitars and other acoustic instruments and a country/bluegrass influence. I would say he is more similiar to people she has worked with in the past such as Stuart Price and Mirwais than more standard EDM people like David Guetta or Calvin Harris.
I'm not sure how working with Avicii would stop her from using her intelligence. He's the producer, not writing lyrics. She will still have the opportunity to express herself lyrically. I guess people have this idea you can only be interesting lyrically if you do downtempo ballads or something but I don't see that as the case.
I don't get the whole bandwagon jumping accusation. That would only be applicable if Madonna was someone who never showed an interest in dance music and all of a sudden worked with someone like Avicii. But she has always had a heavy dance and electronic element.

forgive me, but i don't find his music very deep personally. she often needs someone to bounce off creatively and personally, i am just not sure he can provide that inspiration.


well perhaps your guess is somewhat unjustified. who mentioned anything about ballads?


rightly or wrongly, this will happen. she faced the same criticism when she worked with jt, timbaland, nicki ninaj, lmfao and the list of accusations goes on. its inevitable quite frankly, not that it matters ultimately if the output is good.

Honestly, gpk you seem like a very unpleasant person ripping my posts to shreds sentence by sentence. Everytime I come here you seem to be attacking me. Frankly, I'm over it.
I think sometimes the focus on lyrics and maturity is way overdone. What is it you want Madonna to tell you? She's a good pop singer, is it really her purpose to tell you the meaning of life? Maybe some of us just want to escape our problems by listening to some fun dance music. Why is that so bad?

wow, over reaction much? quite frankly, i don't care what you think about my posting style and for someone championing positivity in this thread, i find it more than a little ironic that you would make yet another negative personal judgement of me. i could go into detail why i take issue with some of your posting characteristics that don't sit well with me, but for the sake of the on topic flow of discussion within the thread, i will refrain from going into scathing detail like you have here.


so over it that you felt compelled to post yet another personal judgement? its true, i haven't made any significant friends in my time in this thread, but i am not here for that. i am here to post my opinion, good and bad. if you take issue with anything i write in future, then perhaps you could send me a personal message rather than making these personal judgements public and there is always the ignore option since you evidently feel that strongly.


i resent that actually, did i actually mention that i needed personal direction from madonna at all? everybody loves escapism, but i feel that there has been too much emphasis on that aspect of her personality in her recent output. is it really so bad to long for something a little more meaningful, if only for the sake of change?

What i love is...she has tweeted/posted this pic and caption and fanbases/forums everywhere are crazy over it

I do think with her saying "top secret" definitely seems like some surprises will still be on the way for the album...and really hope at least one of the rumoured collaborators (Nile, Moroder and indeed Pat Leonard!! yeeeahs!) could indeed happen...and would love it if perhaps Avicii was utilised as a main producer with this and Madonna as exec would allow for a cohesive and varied album of productions and styles. Cannot wait.

I am really excited by the news of Madonna working with Avicii, Ever since they appeared together at the ultra music festival with his remix of Girl Gone Wild I thought it was really good.

I don't think Madonna is jumping the bandwagon because she has always had dance elements in her music, and she has worked with DJ's in the past like Stuart Price. Plus if Madonna kept it safe and kept doing a Confessions or Ray of Light sequel every time, people would moan at her for doing that.

Just listening through Avicii's album True and trying to imagine what music with him and Madonna would sound like. I have a feeling it is going to be something special. And I think Madonna and her team have learnt a few lessons from the outcome of MDNA and I doubt Madonna will be ready to make the same sort of decisions again with the new album (Promotion?)

Anyway I'm excited by any new music that Madonna does because she will always be the Queen of Music to me

Here is my top songs from Avicii

Levels
Dear Boy
Heart Upon My Sleeve
Hey Brother
Wake Me Up

To be honest I feel Avicii is her best decision in years. Probably since Stuart Price to be exact. So I'm already more excited for album 13 than I was Hard Candy or MDNA.

She certainly isn't jumping on a bandwagon as apart from remixes Avicii doesn't produce for other artists. So Madonna will be his first in that sense.

not once did i mention that she was jumping on the bandwagon, i wrote that people (her critics) would naturally view it that way, because of his recent successes. call me cynical. but i can see that inevitable criticism coming from a mile off. sorry, but i cant get excited about this collaboration, but as always, i will keep an open mind and look forward to new music from her regardless.

well i didn't have to wait for that mile. a thread has already been opened on the subject and without any surprise whatsoever, the word "bandwagon" is being thrown around like confetti. it would be amusing, if it wasn't so easily predictable.

True.

ill informed opinions mean nothing to me though. Madonna has wanted to work with him on music for four years. If it hadn't been for W.E she would have. It just so happens he blew up in the mean time. If things had worked out in 2011 then Madonna would have been called out as the one who discovered him.

gpk, ur right it was obvious that the haters would say 'bandwagon', not knowing that Avicii had recorded a remix of GGW and that Madonna did a promo dj set with him before he achieved global success. I'm excited for a new album as I think her last album had lots of great experimentation - 'gang bang, I'm addicted and some girls'. I just hope that her promo and videos are stylistic and artistic with a social message or observation as she excels at this with her music. There are rumours that she is working with Avicii, Daft Punk, Giorgio M, Orbit and P Leonard. I wonder which one of these will actually be true.? My one wish for the new album would be a couple of songs that she has solely written. Also is is true that she has split from Guy O?

What i love with so much i love now (Batman, Doctor WHo casting etc and Madonna with Avicii) is people are just open to criticise or throw so much at something which isnt actually created/made yet to hear/judge and to just dismiss because he is "current" etc...what i love is Madonna is now 4 decades in, mid 50s, looking fantastic and is willing to stil lexperiment with styles and people.

I do wish she worked with him for MDNA i sai that a while back...but alas...timings etc...she is working with him now and hopefully they will create something bigger and rawer...i mean Orbit, Price, Mirwais were names before they worked with Madonna and now they got elevated beyond their wildest dreams due to it...so i think this will truly be something...and i hope again it llows for surprise guests...as she said there will be surprise collabs...so heres to it..Pat Leonard, Nile, Moroder....a massive avant garde arty disco/EDM/Rock album would be insanely epic and out there and cool...

actually, i am quite surprised by the reaction in that thread. the poll has been up a day and its only attracted 30 votes. i know digital spy is just a sample audience, but i sense that interest in madonna generally is dwindling. we all know the young crowd is not interested in her output and she is more of the last standing icon, rather than a cutting edge artist these days, but people seem indifferent towards her now. at least, if that poll is anything to go by.

part of me feels happy about that, because she is indeed above all the expectations that the younger artists face and if she flops again with her singles, no one will be surprised. she will still continue to laugh all the way to the bank with her tour earnings and she has had an incredible run of successes throughout her career.

i haven't voted in that poll. if i voted that i thought it was a good idea, that would make me a hypocrite, but i don't want to pick the negative options either. the more i think about this collaboration, the less i am surprised by it. its like with the grillz, the more people complained about her wearing them, the more she wore them. many of her fans have been craving something different from her musically and a break away from the usual hook-ups with dj's, so it stands to reason that she would do the opposite.

i am still looking forward to the new material though, i can see the good in each of her albums and she's never made a truly dire album imo.

It's pretty hard to vote about something that you haven't heard or hasn't been released. How can you know if you like it or not? People don't generally take an interest in something that just being talked about if it hasn't actually been released yet. It's not worth voting on or thinking about most people think because it might not ever come out. They get more interested in when there's an actual release.

But I was talking to a friend of mine whose a musician and he was saying how when you're younger you're a creative artist and then when you get older you are more of an entertainer and you should make sure what you do is a pleasure for yourself and the audience. He says the younger generation doesn't really care about albums too much and live is where it's at, since that will never go away. He says it's amazing how many people in the music business don't seem to get this and still are focused on albums. But I think Madonna gets it. She focuses on her live shows and performances the most and is the ultimate entertainer. I know some fans have a problem with this and are still hung up on albums and hits and stuff like that, but I think Madonna is very smart and sees how the music business has changed and is focusing on the right thing.

she's still "cleaning house", but i think her cleaning duties are mainly restricted to the bathroom, considering she always posting her cleaning pics in that room.

i love this retro pic she posted and rhe accompanying caption. i often wonder what her aspirations were back then, did she honestly believe she would later rule the pop world and become a major pop icon? she's always been fiercely ambitious, but i do wonder what her expectations were back then.

that picture is quite striking, her confidence just jumps out of the image and her breakout look was cool, but accessible. her caption is so true also, there is still a lot of work to do in terms of equality and its endearing that she doesn't take huge personal credit for the changes since then. we all know that her contribution was huge though nevertheless.

She is just posted two pictures of her in the recording studio with Avicii, saying she's had a week of making great music

It will be interesting to see how the younger people react if songs with Avicii and Madonna are released. Because the younger crowd love him, but wouldn't really want to listen to a Madonna song (due to her age...yawn) So with the two of them together, it could be quite interesting to see how people react to it.

I can't wait either way, Any new Madonna music is good news

Personally I have a great feeling about this. I have not felt this positive for a Madonna album since Confessions. Hard Candy was dated by the time it was released as Nelly had already done it two years previously while MDNA was too pick and mix and mainly produced by people who had passed their peak.

Avicii on the other hand is top of his game right now. Everything he touches turns to gold. The timings of this have never been better. I think we are looking at possibly getting her most successful music for a decade. Its interesting she is still hash tagging revolution. I think Madonna is going on a free speech mission. So it already sounds like she has more of her heart in this than she did MDNA.

While I'm slightly disappointed that she's working with Avicii I'm still incredibly excited about getting some new music. Even her worst albums haven't been 'bad' just a bit mediocre for her but still very listenable. Even though she's working with Avicii I hope she will sneak a few great ballads on to the record I reckon she will be aiming for a Xmas release with the tour maybe starting around May

I think it might be out sooner. Perhaps August or September. I don't think she has ever taken longer than six months on an album. I think the release this time will also contain a big promo push. Perhaps she will launch the new single at the VMAs in August.

I don't get all this 'her heart wasn't in MDNA' or 'it wasn't her normal creative standard'...

The songs 'Im Addicted'; 'Gang Bang', 'Some Girls', 'Love Spent', 'Falling Free' - were Madonna at her very creative edge. Equally, 'Masterpeice' and 'Beautiful Killer' were great pop songs.

Still, I think Madonna will return to the sound of American Life and Music mixed with EDM. Judging by the recent photo of her in the studio with her guitar - this is certainly a nod to that era.

Madonna admitted herself that her creativity was at an all time low after W.E. I think that added with the fact she didn't even write most of MDNA despite what the ink might suggest is the reason people say this. I agree the songs you listed were great but the demos for singles such as Girl Gone Wild and Turn Up The Radio had been around on Youtube for several years. Everyone from Britney to Cheryl Cole turned down recording Girl Gone Wild before Madonna got it.

This is our new Slendermen Lyric Video Enjoy!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dmpUw9dRoOo&sns=em

i really have never heard that GGW and Turn Up The Radio were offered to Britney and Cheryl Cole before Madonna. That disappoints me if true. I find the album version and single release a little too generic but there are great remixes that take the songs to a Madonna level, namely - offer nissim, richard vision speakers blow mix and avicii mix. They would have fitted on the album so much better. I have a feeling that the album was altered because the label feared the drugs analogy ....there was an original track listing that changed just weeks before the eventual release... but they should have just gone with the high sides of the album and ended with the retrospective and spiritual elements of 'falling free and I'm a sinner.'

Anyhow i'm excited by the avicii colab, especially as he's worked with daft punk, nile rogers and david guetta. He will do his best by Madonna, I'm sure. .

currently re-listening to 'music' era.

I adore: Impressive Instant; Paradise; what it feels like for a girl, run, nobody's perfect

Madonna ahs posted more Frida Kahlo art ...more about freedom and expression and creativity...i really have great vibes here and just cannot wait to finally see/hear what she is up to .