Originally Posted by Gigi4:
“Everyone is entitled to their opinion, but I find it odd you said Rebel Heart made you fall out of love with Madonna. I think for most fans after Hard Candy and MDNA. Rebel Heart was the album that made them fall back in love with her. I don't really understand when you say the album doesn't have heart and warmth. It has far more ballads and midtempos than her past albums. It has songs like Joan of Arc, Ghosttown and Joan of Arc.
I don't understand the statement Rebel Heart has too many songs! The fact is every Madonna fan has different taste in music, so I think it's smart for her to do more songs so there's something for everyone. If you don't like certain songs, you can easily now with technology make your own album and don't listen to the songs you don't like.
I think you might be putting too much emphasis on her promotion and social media and judging her harshly for that.
I'm glad you enjoyed the tour though. When you say art, I wonder about that. Madonna has always been a combination of art and fun pop music. I think she does a wonderful job of keeping that balance.
A fun song like Bitch, I'm Madonna is as much her as deeper more arty songs. Rebel Heart to me sums up everything Madonna. I don't see where it lacks originality or she didn't have input. Like it or not, it's very much her. If you don't like it, I"m afraid you may not understand Madonna as a person or an artist.”
You see, I find comments like "I may not understand Madonna as a person or an artist" quite patronising and whilst I respect your contributions on this thread, I couldn't disagree with you more. Firstly, the Madonna we see as a person is the Madonna Madonna herself wants us to know. None of us know her privately so how on earth can we accuse each other of not knowing her as a person?
As an artist I know her as influential, unique, strong minded, creative, talented, level headed, intelligent, crusader, illustrious, industrious, innovative, clever, sentimental, emotional, cheery, sad, man eater, vulnerable lonely soul, mother, outspoken, respectful, defiant, brilliant, exciting, defining, inventive, stubborn and humble.
Rebel Heart indeed does contain some great tracks. But never before on a Madonna album have there been so many skip tracks. A great album doesn't need a listener to create their own version - it should excel from beginning to end. All of Madonna's albums from True Blue right up to MDNA have had such a line up of tracks that skipping one in order to get to one you like has not been necessary.
Never before has a Madonna album been created by splitting collaborators into three teams to write and create tracks for Madonna's approval - and tweaks. I appreciate that you enjoy Rebel Heart, and by no means is it a bad album. It is way superior to much of what was released during last year. But, it isn't a good Madonna album. That is the thing. She is capable of so much better. In my view she fell out of love with the whole project once the bastard who leaked it ruined her moment. Sadly, in my opinion, the finished product demonstrates that. I still listen to MDNA, Hard Candy and Confessions. But really can not get into the vibe of Rebel Heart. I tried playing it again last week and it isn't an album that grabs me. I turned it off midway through.
But let's not fall out. I am so proud of Madonna for her heartfelt, and genuine, tribute to David Bowie. No other artist summed him up quite as eloquently as she did. She made me realise that she is one of a tiny handful, of genuine living legends that we are lucky enough to still have around. Long may that continue.