Apparently Stuart Price has been putting the cat amongst the pigeons again in Australia and did an interview where he said he doesn't want to hear her doing a dance record again and she should stick to slower tempo songs and that the last good record she did was Confessions with him. I think he's been a little harsh as MDNA wasn't a bad album at all, just a little below her high standards. I do agree with him in that I think she would suit a slower tempo album next time around. He seems quite bitter about Madonna these days though
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Originally Posted by TH14:
“Apparently Stuart Price has been putting the cat amongst the pigeons again in Australia and did an interview where he said he doesn't want to hear her doing a dance record again and she should stick to slower tempo songs and that the last good record she did was Confessions with him. I think he's been a little harsh as MDNA wasn't a bad album at all, just a little below her high standards. I do agree with him in that I think she would suit a slower tempo album next time around. He seems quite bitter about Madonna these days though”
“Apparently Stuart Price has been putting the cat amongst the pigeons again in Australia and did an interview where he said he doesn't want to hear her doing a dance record again and she should stick to slower tempo songs and that the last good record she did was Confessions with him. I think he's been a little harsh as MDNA wasn't a bad album at all, just a little below her high standards. I do agree with him in that I think she would suit a slower tempo album next time around. He seems quite bitter about Madonna these days though”
why, what else has he said to give you that impression? i don't completely disagree with his comments on the surface, but i will have to read the full interview for the full context. do you know if this interview was published or was it perhaps a radio interview?
Originally Posted by TH14:
“Apparently Stuart Price has been putting the cat amongst the pigeons again in Australia and did an interview where he said he doesn't want to hear her doing a dance record again and she should stick to slower tempo songs and that the last good record she did was Confessions with him. I think he's been a little harsh as MDNA wasn't a bad album at all, just a little below her high standards. I do agree with him in that I think she would suit a slower tempo album next time around. He seems quite bitter about Madonna these days though”
“Apparently Stuart Price has been putting the cat amongst the pigeons again in Australia and did an interview where he said he doesn't want to hear her doing a dance record again and she should stick to slower tempo songs and that the last good record she did was Confessions with him. I think he's been a little harsh as MDNA wasn't a bad album at all, just a little below her high standards. I do agree with him in that I think she would suit a slower tempo album next time around. He seems quite bitter about Madonna these days though”
I've read this on Madonna forums, but I've never seen an actual source for it so I wonder if it's really true. I find it odd that he would say she shouldn't do an uptempo dance album when he just did a very uptempo dance album with the Pet Shop Boys who are around the same age as Madonna. I don't see why he would be bitter because she worked with other people, because he's a very in demand producer with the Pet Shop Boys and other artists. It's not like he's sitting home with no work just because Madonna didn't want to work with him anymore. Just from interviews I've seen with him he doesn't seem like a bitter person or someone who would criticize people he's worked with like that.
Originally Posted by Gigi4:
“I've read this on Madonna forums, but I've never seen an actual source for it so I wonder if it's really true. I find it odd that he would say she shouldn't do an uptempo dance album when he just did a very uptempo dance album with the Pet Shop Boys who are around the same age as Madonna. I don't see why he would be bitter because she worked with other people, because he's a very in demand producer with the Pet Shop Boys and other artists. It's not like he's sitting home with no work just because Madonna didn't want to work with him anymore. Just from interviews I've seen with him he doesn't seem like a bitter person or someone who would criticize people he's worked with like that.”
“I've read this on Madonna forums, but I've never seen an actual source for it so I wonder if it's really true. I find it odd that he would say she shouldn't do an uptempo dance album when he just did a very uptempo dance album with the Pet Shop Boys who are around the same age as Madonna. I don't see why he would be bitter because she worked with other people, because he's a very in demand producer with the Pet Shop Boys and other artists. It's not like he's sitting home with no work just because Madonna didn't want to work with him anymore. Just from interviews I've seen with him he doesn't seem like a bitter person or someone who would criticize people he's worked with like that.”
I imagine it was a radio interview as there is no actual source as you say. Was there ever talk of them having a fall out at any point? I can't pluck up any sources but I'm sure I've heard the odd comment here and there where he hasn't been entirely complementary about M in recent times
Originally Posted by TH14:
“I imagine it was a radio interview as there is no actual source as you say. Was there ever talk of them having a fall out at any point? I can't pluck up any sources but I'm sure I've heard the odd comment here and there where he hasn't been entirely complementary about M in recent times”
“I imagine it was a radio interview as there is no actual source as you say. Was there ever talk of them having a fall out at any point? I can't pluck up any sources but I'm sure I've heard the odd comment here and there where he hasn't been entirely complementary about M in recent times”
I looked it up on a Madonna forum and someone said it was in the magazine of the Melbourne Herald Sun. Is there anyone here from Australia who can tell us if it's in there? Everyone knows that Madonna only likes to work with one producer for one or two albums and she likes to change so not sure why that would annoy him if she went to a different sound. Plus, I would think he wouldn't want to be limited to just working with her and being just seen as Madonna's producer. I would think he'd want to move on and do other things and be his own person.
come to think of it, there were rumours about him making less than complimentary comments about "hard candy" at the time, but again, the only sources i can find now or at the time were on forums. apparently, these comments were made in an interview with "mix mag", but there are no reliable sources to suggest these comments were ever made.
Originally Posted by TH14:
“Apparently Stuart Price has been putting the cat amongst the pigeons again in Australia and did an interview where he said he doesn't want to hear her doing a dance record again and she should stick to slower tempo songs and that the last good record she did was Confessions with him. I think he's been a little harsh as MDNA wasn't a bad album at all, just a little below her high standards. I do agree with him in that I think she would suit a slower tempo album next time around. He seems quite bitter about Madonna these days though”
“Apparently Stuart Price has been putting the cat amongst the pigeons again in Australia and did an interview where he said he doesn't want to hear her doing a dance record again and she should stick to slower tempo songs and that the last good record she did was Confessions with him. I think he's been a little harsh as MDNA wasn't a bad album at all, just a little below her high standards. I do agree with him in that I think she would suit a slower tempo album next time around. He seems quite bitter about Madonna these days though”
Here's the article, it's just a brief mention at the start of the section ''Cont on Jacques''.
Quote:
“ Jacques Lu Cont is quite the diplomat. When asked about what he thinks of Madonna’s new stuff – remember he was the last guy to get something good out of her with 2005’s Confessions On A Dance Floor – he responds “I don’t know whether I want to hear Madonna doing a new dance record,” choosing his words like he’s using slippery chopsticks to get at 14 particular grains of rice.”
“ Jacques Lu Cont is quite the diplomat. When asked about what he thinks of Madonna’s new stuff – remember he was the last guy to get something good out of her with 2005’s Confessions On A Dance Floor – he responds “I don’t know whether I want to hear Madonna doing a new dance record,” choosing his words like he’s using slippery chopsticks to get at 14 particular grains of rice.”
And that's all folks! No mention of ''slower tempo'' stuff though, maybe that's just how another fan interpreted the comment. Also, it was the interviewer making the comment about Confessions being her last good record.
Thanks for that..another example of chinese whispers. I do agree that Confessions was her last great album though.. i just think a lot of what she's done since is a little half hearted and whilst it's not 'bad' I think she can do better
Originally Posted by TH14:
“Thanks for that..another example of chinese whispers. I do agree that Confessions was her last great album though.. i just think a lot of what she's done since is a little half hearted and whilst it's not 'bad' I think she can do better”
“Thanks for that..another example of chinese whispers. I do agree that Confessions was her last great album though.. i just think a lot of what she's done since is a little half hearted and whilst it's not 'bad' I think she can do better”
I don't usually pay too much attention to critics, but the Metacritic scores for her last few albums (Confessions - 80, Hard Candy - 65, MDNA - 64) pretty much sum up how I feel about them. 4 stars, 3 stars and 3 stars. I also agree with Music getting 80.
The only ones I don't agree with is American Life, which got 60 but I think deserved a 70-75, and Celebration, which got 84 but was a bit too much of a mess in terms of track-listing, not to mention it was so obviously a contractual fulfilment - she was already signed to Live Nation for Christ's sake, and she couldn't have given less shits.
When Stuart says he doesn't want her doing another dance album, what does that mean exactly? I don't want another straight up party club house record, but I don't think she can eliminate anything dance or electronic and still be herself. Dance is such a broad catergory, there are so many different types of dance. Plus, her shows are based around choreography and dancing to a large extent. Since she does a lot of the new album in her shows, she does need songs she can do choreography to with a few ballads. If she did a slower type of album, would people want to hear her stand there and sing and/or play the guitar the whole time? Fans already complain about the guitar playing. I would like her to continue in the dance/electronic vein but add some less mainstream elements to it.
Originally Posted by Ciccone Youth:
“I don't usually pay too much attention to critics, but the Metacritic scores for her last few albums (Confessions - 80, Hard Candy - 65, MDNA - 64) pretty much sum up how I feel about them. 4 stars, 3 stars and 3 stars. I also agree with Music getting 80.
The only ones I don't agree with is American Life, which got 60 but I think deserved a 70-75, and Celebration, which got 84 but was a bit too much of a mess in terms of track-listing, not to mention it was so obviously a contractual fulfilment - she was already signed to Live Nation for Christ's sake, and she couldn't have given less shits.”
“I don't usually pay too much attention to critics, but the Metacritic scores for her last few albums (Confessions - 80, Hard Candy - 65, MDNA - 64) pretty much sum up how I feel about them. 4 stars, 3 stars and 3 stars. I also agree with Music getting 80.
The only ones I don't agree with is American Life, which got 60 but I think deserved a 70-75, and Celebration, which got 84 but was a bit too much of a mess in terms of track-listing, not to mention it was so obviously a contractual fulfilment - she was already signed to Live Nation for Christ's sake, and she couldn't have given less shits.
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I agree with those scores. American Life is tragically under scored and had it not been for the controversy surrounding the lead single and video I think it would've got a higher score that it deserves. The critics judgement was clouded by the negativity at the time. I think MDNA was slightly under scored as well and is a far better record than Hard Candy
Originally Posted by Gigi4:
“When Stuart says he doesn't want her doing another dance album, what does that mean exactly? I don't want another straight up party club house record, but I don't think she can eliminate anything dance or electronic and still be herself. Dance is such a broad catergory, there are so many different types of dance. Plus, her shows are based around choreography and dancing to a large extent. Since she does a lot of the new album in her shows, she does need songs she can do choreography to with a few ballads. If she did a slower type of album, would people want to hear her stand there and sing and/or play the guitar the whole time? Fans already complain about the guitar playing. I would like her to continue in the dance/electronic vein but add some less mainstream elements to it.”
“When Stuart says he doesn't want her doing another dance album, what does that mean exactly? I don't want another straight up party club house record, but I don't think she can eliminate anything dance or electronic and still be herself. Dance is such a broad catergory, there are so many different types of dance. Plus, her shows are based around choreography and dancing to a large extent. Since she does a lot of the new album in her shows, she does need songs she can do choreography to with a few ballads. If she did a slower type of album, would people want to hear her stand there and sing and/or play the guitar the whole time? Fans already complain about the guitar playing. I would like her to continue in the dance/electronic vein but add some less mainstream elements to it.”
Yeah, electronica will always be a part of her music - she started out as a dance act, and it's almost always been present in her music, save for her mid-'90s AC/Evita phase. I'd love if she could find someone new and freaky, like the Kazaky dancers or the Kalakan Trio, but as dance-pop producers. If that makes any sense.
Originally Posted by Ciccone Youth:
“Yeah, electronica will always be a part of her music - she started out as a dance act, and it's almost always been present in her music, save for her mid-'90s AC/Evita phase. I'd love if she could find someone new and freaky, like the Kazaky dancers or the Kalakan Trio, but as dance-pop producers. If that makes any sense.”
“Yeah, electronica will always be a part of her music - she started out as a dance act, and it's almost always been present in her music, save for her mid-'90s AC/Evita phase. I'd love if she could find someone new and freaky, like the Kazaky dancers or the Kalakan Trio, but as dance-pop producers. If that makes any sense.
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I agree! And I think that whole mid 90's/AC period even though I know there are people that love it, was my least favourite part of her career. It didn't really seem her. But then I'm not that into MOR/AC music in general.
I don't think he means ballads. He is probably suggesting she goes back into the Music/American Life indie route.
Which to be honest is what I would like to see her go back to as well. Another dance/trance album fills me with dread. Its all becoming too samey samey. I really do miss Madonna exciting me.
I haven't felt excited since Confessions. I will always support her but that doesn't mean I'm enjoying it. I do think she is due another music switch. Just to keep it fresh.
Which to be honest is what I would like to see her go back to as well. Another dance/trance album fills me with dread. Its all becoming too samey samey. I really do miss Madonna exciting me.
I haven't felt excited since Confessions. I will always support her but that doesn't mean I'm enjoying it. I do think she is due another music switch. Just to keep it fresh.
Originally Posted by Hit Em Up Style:
“I don't think he means ballads. He is probably suggesting she goes back into the Music/American Life indie route.
Which to be honest is what I would like to see her go back to as well. Another dance/trance album fills me with dread. Its all becoming too samey samey. I really do miss Madonna exciting me. I haven't felt excited since Confessions. I will always support her but that doesn't mean I'm enjoying it.”
“I don't think he means ballads. He is probably suggesting she goes back into the Music/American Life indie route.
Which to be honest is what I would like to see her go back to as well. Another dance/trance album fills me with dread. Its all becoming too samey samey. I really do miss Madonna exciting me.
I haven't felt excited since Confessions. I will always support her but that doesn't mean I'm enjoying it.”
But Confessions which he produced was very much a step away from that type of more indie/alternative electronica. It was much more mainstream disco. Confessions was the beginning of her current more fun mainstream pop/dance stage. I enjoy fun dancey Madonna. If I don't enjoy something, I don't support it! But I do think she should try something a little different on the next album but not going back to Music or American Life.
I've grown up with her and kind of owe it to her to stick with her but she's dropped a level musically. I really do think though shes still capable of greatness but I want her to really want to do a kick ass album and not do a record because she has to to promote a tour and to fulfill contract obligations. She's still got great ideas though and the MDNA Tour was absolutely amazing. When her heart is in something then she really is still capable of great things
Originally Posted by Gigi4:
“But Confessions which he produced was very much a step away from that type of more indie/alternative electronica. It was much more mainstream disco. Confessions was the beginning of her current more fun mainstream pop/dance stage. I enjoy fun dancey Madonna. If I don't enjoy something, I don't support it! But I do think she should try something a little different on the next album but not going back to Music or American Life.”
“But Confessions which he produced was very much a step away from that type of more indie/alternative electronica. It was much more mainstream disco. Confessions was the beginning of her current more fun mainstream pop/dance stage. I enjoy fun dancey Madonna. If I don't enjoy something, I don't support it! But I do think she should try something a little different on the next album but not going back to Music or American Life.”
Well I've followed and grown up with Madonna since I was a kid. So I will never not support her. I didn't like MDNA but I supported it out of loyalty to her.
If you enjoy Madonna like this great but it doesn't mean we all do. I think Madonna's best work lays in American Life. Its a shame she felt because of the backlash it received she had to re-please her pop lovers. I think the Ray Of Light/Music/American Life era is probably the closest we have got to the artist Madonna really wanted to be. Not saying she decided to sell herself out but since Confessions her musical quality has declined greatly and this is being reflected in her sales.
Originally Posted by Hit Em Up Style:
“Well I've followed and grown up with Madonna since I was a kid. So I will never not support her. I didn't like MDNA but I supported it out of loyalty to her.
If you enjoy Madonna like this but it doesn't mean we all do. I think Madonna's best work lays in American Life. Its a shame she felt because of the backlash it received she had to re-please her pop lovers. I think American Life is probably the closest we have got to the artist Madonna really wanted to be. Not saying she decided to sell herself out but since Confessions her musical quality has declined greatly and this is being reflected in her sales.”
“Well I've followed and grown up with Madonna since I was a kid. So I will never not support her. I didn't like MDNA but I supported it out of loyalty to her.
If you enjoy Madonna like this but it doesn't mean we all do. I think Madonna's best work lays in American Life. Its a shame she felt because of the backlash it received she had to re-please her pop lovers. I think American Life is probably the closest we have got to the artist Madonna really wanted to be. Not saying she decided to sell herself out but since Confessions her musical quality has declined greatly and this is being reflected in her sales.”
I enjoy both fun and serious Madonna. That's why I like her because she does both. It depends on the mood I'm in at the time. I enjoy American Life, but I don't think it's her best work. I think it was the reflection of where she was at that time, when she was in kind of angry state. If she really wanted to be that kind of artist all the time, she would have done it earlier in her career. I don't think she changed to please her fans, I think she just got the dark angry thing of American Life out of her system, but then she didn't feel that way any more and felt like having fun again. I do like American Life, but I wouldn't like her to have every album sound like that. But I'm sure she will do another more serious album in the future. Actually my dream album from her would combine the fun and serious sides, but I guess that might not be very cohesive as an album. I personally like Confessions and Music much more than AL because they do combine the fun dance side with the more serious side without going too far in either direction.
Originally Posted by Gigi4:
“I enjoy both fun and serious Madonna. That's why I like her because she does both. It depends on the mood I'm in at the time. I enjoy American Life, but I don't think it's her best work. I think it was the reflection of where she was at that time, when she was in kind of angry state. If she really wanted to be that kind of artist all the time, she would have done it earlier in her career. I don't think she changed to please her fans, I think she just got the dark angry thing of American Life out of her system, but then she didn't feel that way any more and felt like having fun again. I do like American Life, but I wouldn't like her to have every album sound like that. But I'm sure she will do another more serious album in the future. Actually my dream album from her would combine the fun and serious sides, but I guess that might not be very cohesive as an album.”
“I enjoy both fun and serious Madonna. That's why I like her because she does both. It depends on the mood I'm in at the time. I enjoy American Life, but I don't think it's her best work. I think it was the reflection of where she was at that time, when she was in kind of angry state. If she really wanted to be that kind of artist all the time, she would have done it earlier in her career. I don't think she changed to please her fans, I think she just got the dark angry thing of American Life out of her system, but then she didn't feel that way any more and felt like having fun again. I do like American Life, but I wouldn't like her to have every album sound like that. But I'm sure she will do another more serious album in the future. Actually my dream album from her would combine the fun and serious sides, but I guess that might not be very cohesive as an album.”
I think she found that balance on LAP. That had some seriously emotional and heavy songs on it and was probably her most personal album but it also had lighter elements in EY, Cherish and Dear Jessie and they prevented it from becoming too dark. LAP is the perfect balance IMO
Originally Posted by Gigi4:
“I enjoy both fun and serious Madonna. That's why I like her because she does both. It depends on the mood I'm in at the time. I enjoy American Life, but I don't think it's her best work. I think it was the reflection of where she was at that time, when she was in kind of angry state. If she really wanted to be that kind of artist all the time, she would have done it earlier in her career. I don't think she changed to please her fans, I think she just got the dark angry thing of American Life out of her system, but then she didn't feel that way any more and felt like having fun again. I do like American Life, but I wouldn't like her to have every album sound like that. But I'm sure she will do another more serious album in the future. Actually my dream album from her would combine the fun and serious sides, but I guess that might not be very cohesive as an album.”
“I enjoy both fun and serious Madonna. That's why I like her because she does both. It depends on the mood I'm in at the time. I enjoy American Life, but I don't think it's her best work. I think it was the reflection of where she was at that time, when she was in kind of angry state. If she really wanted to be that kind of artist all the time, she would have done it earlier in her career. I don't think she changed to please her fans, I think she just got the dark angry thing of American Life out of her system, but then she didn't feel that way any more and felt like having fun again. I do like American Life, but I wouldn't like her to have every album sound like that. But I'm sure she will do another more serious album in the future. Actually my dream album from her would combine the fun and serious sides, but I guess that might not be very cohesive as an album.”
I guess the biggest challenge for Madonna is down to the fact she has covered so many genres now its difficult to please all her fans.
I'm not really sure what I'd like to see her do next. Other than dance that is. I think she has been wasting her voice on some of these dance tracks. I want to hear her singing for real again. Singing like she actually means it. She seems on a mission with the art for freedom project. If only she could project that into new music then she might have another epic record on her hands.
Originally Posted by Hit Em Up Style:
“Well I've followed and grown up with Madonna since I was a kid. So I will never not support her. I didn't like MDNA but I supported it out of loyalty to her.
If you enjoy Madonna like this great but it doesn't mean we all do. I think Madonna's best work lays in American Life. Its a shame she felt because of the backlash it received she had to re-please her pop lovers. I think the Ray Of Light/Music/American Life era is probably the closest we have got to the artist Madonna really wanted to be. Not saying she decided to sell herself out but since Confessions her musical quality has declined greatly and this is being reflected in her sales.”
“Well I've followed and grown up with Madonna since I was a kid. So I will never not support her. I didn't like MDNA but I supported it out of loyalty to her.
If you enjoy Madonna like this great but it doesn't mean we all do. I think Madonna's best work lays in American Life. Its a shame she felt because of the backlash it received she had to re-please her pop lovers. I think the Ray Of Light/Music/American Life era is probably the closest we have got to the artist Madonna really wanted to be. Not saying she decided to sell herself out but since Confessions her musical quality has declined greatly and this is being reflected in her sales.”
i agree with this actually and in its entirety.
you have very strong opinions in what you want from madonna as an artist, but you back these opinions up with concise objectivity. good post.
Originally Posted by Hit Em Up Style:
“I guess the biggest challenge for Madonna is down to the fact she has covered so many genres now its difficult to please all her fans.
I'm not really sure what I'd like to see her do next. Other than dance that is. I think she has been wasting her voice on some of these dance tracks. I want to hear her singing for real again. Like she actually means it. She seems on a mission with the art for freedom project. If only she could project that into new music then she might have another epic record on her hands.”
“I guess the biggest challenge for Madonna is down to the fact she has covered so many genres now its difficult to please all her fans.
I'm not really sure what I'd like to see her do next. Other than dance that is. I think she has been wasting her voice on some of these dance tracks. I want to hear her singing for real again. Like she actually means it. She seems on a mission with the art for freedom project. If only she could project that into new music then she might have another epic record on her hands.”
Yes, I think that's the problem for any older artist. It gets boring for fans if you do the same type of music people expect over and over. But if you do something completely different, sometimes it's ill fitting on you. She mentioned she likes Daft Punk and Frank Ocean. They both sound great like they could bring something different than the last two records, but something that would fit her and still sound like Madonna. I'm sure I would like whatever she does, since I tend to like most of her stuff. The only thing I would not want is any kind of reggae or world music. I know she uses world music in her tours which is fine, but I really wouldn't want a whole album of that.
I do feel Madonna has another ground breaking album within her. It might not be a seller on the scale of Ray Of Light but I think she will deliver something special again. Might not be the next release, could be the one after. I sense it though because if there is one thing Madonna has taught us over the past 30 years its never to underestimate her. She always pulls something out the bag when no one is expecting it. I'm not willing to accept her best days are behind her just yet. I don't feel that. Maybe I'm being cynical. Who knows but history always seems to repeat itself with Madonna.
I dont understand the comment saying "Confessions marked her decline" it was a definite PEAK album in artistry, praise and commerciality on all levels...plus i feel it reflected a lot of passion and clarity in the lyrics and vocals and production all round...Madonna and Stuart Price were a great team and as M put it "the od couple" and it worked and they crafted a great shape and identity with the album...Confessions was not a "generic dance album" nor was it "typical Disco" stuf it had such a massive range which i adore when i hear it...the layers in production, the directions across all 12 songs and the personality...it really is a strong body of work and deserved of the praise and accolades it got. For me it has taken until Daft Punk this year for me to experience a really fresh/artistic take on Dance music to hit the mainstream (over 7 years it took but damn Random Access memories is a breathtaking album...IMO).
For me with Hard Candy is where thinvs were on shaky ground...Stuart price was on baord the project earlier on in 2007 when she started but then Warner wanted Confessions impact...Stateside after the attention she got after Coachella over there....so ultimately Timberlake/Timbaland were called on board and thus there we have it....while i like the album and the retro funk/commercial R&B blend (which is very typical 2013 now actually with Pharell in the charts everywhere again) but it did also work and there was soe personality in there as well as motivated mini anthems too.
MDNA i feel to me anyways ...in time has grown...i feel that i love the different components of the album too....Beautiful Killer, gang bang, Im Addicted, Im a Sinner, Love Spent, I F-cked Up, Falling Free, Some girls, I Dont give a.. I feel are among her best work...it is criminal in so many ways they didnt see the light of day as releases too...i also do get gutted it wasnt focused enough too...with Demo Crew/Orbit presenting one aspect, Solveig another dynamic and the Bennassi brothers another...plus the inclusion of Minaj and MIA appear somewhat natural in concept...but not in theme with the album (Exodus should/could have made the cut with MIA instead of Bidet Song tbh!). But overall i do feel and still feel it is a great album and did help kinda bring contemporary EDM music into "Pop" all the more...everytime i hear Avicii Wake Me Up i think of what she did on Love Spent with the indie/banjo fusion with intense electronica and hooks! Amazing...i also feel vocally she should have had mroe rawer vocals on MDNA but alas.
But these are again my thoughts... and while i didnt play MDNA much later in 2012 and started to dismiss it a bit i do love it more...Confessions was her last "masterpeice" but i do feel Hard Candy was a minor "blip" of unease whilst commercial....MDNA kinda shwocased she can definitely have it in her to use this groundwork to branch out for album 13 with time, commitment and passion there she can do it.....plus name alone and zero campaign (tbh) MDNA did very well.
Now, i know i keep endorsing.mentioning...but i truly feel Blood Orange needs Madonnas number....he is an insanely ool guy who often cites her as an influence on his music...his song "bad girls" was done as a "sequel" of sorts to Madonnas song "bad girl" and Solange re-recorded it with him on her True EP earleir this year (a mesmerising EP!) and he recently posted that video as well as the Like a prayer video on his Facebook page....he lives in the Lower East Side and i truly feel he could really inspire amazing thinvs with her....please...would adore it...and he is geeky into robots and computers and stuff and very versatile while Synth/Neo-Soul he is quirky and breathtaking...truly would love them to work together.
Seeing her at Drake concerts recently really gets me thinking moreso how M and Blood Orange would really WORK together in the studio....with that perhaps Frank Ocean on a song (or two i love him!) would be brilliant..a duet/collab with a big nam i would actually WANT to happen....Beth Ditto i would love vocally on a song (maybe co-write too would be cool) and a reunion with Pat Leonard....if all on the same album it would be PERFECT.
I dont care about single ssales a few cool guerrilla marketed videos/sonvs from the album would be amazing personally and really give a lot of attention to the album itself too.
Anyways...my two pennies. May disagree but personally i would adore it if this happened...that way she doesnt have to stay away from "uptempos/Dance" sounds but it can sound inventive and lyrically she can be deep too....and also it could bring about mid-tempos and creative Ballads with so much interesting stuff happening....anyways worth a thought and hope people understand what i am trying to get across here anyway. I feel it would be a great way to go.
For me with Hard Candy is where thinvs were on shaky ground...Stuart price was on baord the project earlier on in 2007 when she started but then Warner wanted Confessions impact...Stateside after the attention she got after Coachella over there....so ultimately Timberlake/Timbaland were called on board and thus there we have it....while i like the album and the retro funk/commercial R&B blend (which is very typical 2013 now actually with Pharell in the charts everywhere again) but it did also work and there was soe personality in there as well as motivated mini anthems too.
MDNA i feel to me anyways ...in time has grown...i feel that i love the different components of the album too....Beautiful Killer, gang bang, Im Addicted, Im a Sinner, Love Spent, I F-cked Up, Falling Free, Some girls, I Dont give a.. I feel are among her best work...it is criminal in so many ways they didnt see the light of day as releases too...i also do get gutted it wasnt focused enough too...with Demo Crew/Orbit presenting one aspect, Solveig another dynamic and the Bennassi brothers another...plus the inclusion of Minaj and MIA appear somewhat natural in concept...but not in theme with the album (Exodus should/could have made the cut with MIA instead of Bidet Song tbh!). But overall i do feel and still feel it is a great album and did help kinda bring contemporary EDM music into "Pop" all the more...everytime i hear Avicii Wake Me Up i think of what she did on Love Spent with the indie/banjo fusion with intense electronica and hooks! Amazing...i also feel vocally she should have had mroe rawer vocals on MDNA but alas.
But these are again my thoughts... and while i didnt play MDNA much later in 2012 and started to dismiss it a bit i do love it more...Confessions was her last "masterpeice" but i do feel Hard Candy was a minor "blip" of unease whilst commercial....MDNA kinda shwocased she can definitely have it in her to use this groundwork to branch out for album 13 with time, commitment and passion there she can do it.....plus name alone and zero campaign (tbh) MDNA did very well.
Now, i know i keep endorsing.mentioning...but i truly feel Blood Orange needs Madonnas number....he is an insanely ool guy who often cites her as an influence on his music...his song "bad girls" was done as a "sequel" of sorts to Madonnas song "bad girl" and Solange re-recorded it with him on her True EP earleir this year (a mesmerising EP!) and he recently posted that video as well as the Like a prayer video on his Facebook page
....he lives in the Lower East Side and i truly feel he could really inspire amazing thinvs with her....please...would adore it...and he is geeky into robots and computers and stuff and very versatile while Synth/Neo-Soul he is quirky and breathtaking...truly would love them to work together.Seeing her at Drake concerts recently really gets me thinking moreso how M and Blood Orange would really WORK together in the studio....with that perhaps Frank Ocean on a song (or two i love him!) would be brilliant..a duet/collab with a big nam i would actually WANT to happen....Beth Ditto i would love vocally on a song (maybe co-write too would be cool) and a reunion with Pat Leonard....if all on the same album it would be PERFECT.
I dont care about single ssales a few cool guerrilla marketed videos/sonvs from the album would be amazing personally and really give a lot of attention to the album itself too.
Anyways...my two pennies. May disagree but personally i would adore it if this happened...that way she doesnt have to stay away from "uptempos/Dance" sounds but it can sound inventive and lyrically she can be deep too....and also it could bring about mid-tempos and creative Ballads with so much interesting stuff happening....anyways worth a thought and hope people understand what i am trying to get across here anyway. I feel it would be a great way to go.
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