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Old 22-11-2013, 12:11
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M has been spotted at LAX and the rumour mill has said she's met with Pat Leonard. As much as I wish this was true I think she's probably met with some movie people
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Old 22-11-2013, 12:20
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Where was it rumoured she met with Patrick?

If that's in any way true I might just wee myself
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Old 22-11-2013, 12:38
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Where was it rumoured she met with Patrick?

If that's in any way true I might just wee myself
Just on some fan sites, nothing concrete. I think it may be just wishful thinking and the reality may be that she's plotting her next flop film
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Old 22-11-2013, 13:32
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Where was it rumoured she met with Patrick?

If that's in any way true I might just wee myself
It would be a dream come true if it were to be true and it was for musical reasons.

I may just wee myself too.

I really don't want her to do any more film projects.
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Old 22-11-2013, 16:29
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Personally i would love it if she did a film project and utilised it with her music....like have her star in it and direct it and use it to really blend into the next album/era...that would be a cool way of having her music out there and performing/promoting and would be a real unique way of doing it too...plus with her utilising social media on every platform. Would be a truly great way of getting the music out there.

Listening to Erotica in full last night really got me thinking...how so many of the sounds, concepts, ideas of the album are utilised in underground dance scenes and indie music the past few years of recent memory you know? it is so damn cool.

And so many ways a masterpiece....just wonder if she will stem off into an alter-ego again too musically...would adore that...what she did with Dita really bared the grit

Words, Thief Of Hearts, Whys It So Hard...why werent you releases? and when i play Fever i cannot help but think what if goodbye to innocence made the cut instead but with elements of Fever as planned...would have given a mighty power to it when it was released..."goodbye to innocence (the fever)" would be cool <3
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Old 22-11-2013, 17:22
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Personally i would love it if she did a film project and utilised it with her music....like have her star in it and direct it and use it to really blend into the next album/era...that would be a cool way of having her music out there and performing/promoting and would be a real unique way of doing it too...plus with her utilising social media on every platform. Would be a truly great way of getting the music out there.
I've often said this would be a great idea, for her to do a film but also do music with it. That way she could pursue her interest in directing but also give her fans the new music they want. Also, writing for a film, would give her freedom to do different kinds of music or write different lyrics about characters in the film, rather than just herself that might not fit on a Madonna album. When she does an album, it's geared towards her tours and what works live. But with the film, she could do other types of music, that might not necessarily work in a live concert, but would be great for a film. I really feel writing songs for a film could really bring her creativity and take it to a totally new level.
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Old 22-11-2013, 17:30
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A video anthology would have been incredible for Erotica, more than any other record she's made. The existing videos are the best run of videos she's had from one album, and if she worked with David Fincher... ugh, that could have been amazing.
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Old 22-11-2013, 18:18
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I've often said this would be a great idea, for her to do a film but also do music with it. That way she could pursue her interest in directing but also give her fans the new music they want. Also, writing for a film, would give her freedom to do different kinds of music or write different lyrics about characters in the film, rather than just herself that might not fit on a Madonna album. When she does an album, it's geared towards her tours and what works live. But with the film, she could do other types of music, that might not necessarily work in a live concert, but would be great for a film. I really feel writing songs for a film could really bring her creativity and take it to a totally new level.
I was always intrigued about the musical she was supposed to be working on around the COAD era. That would've been fantastic and it's a shame that fell through. I really hope she gets into the studio soon so we can have some pre-album excitement back
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Old 22-11-2013, 18:21
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It wasn't a musical as in a film though was it? I thought the concept was a musical but told through sound alone in the form of an album.

An early version Devil Wouldn't Recognise You was apparently created from the demo sessions.
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Old 22-11-2013, 18:32
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It wasn't a musical as in a film though was it? I thought the concept was a musical but told through sound alone in the form of an album.

An early version Devil Wouldn't Recognise You was apparently created from the demo sessions.
I thought she was doing a stage musical about her career but she couldn't get into it and scrapped it and started working on COAD soon after. Details about it all are very sketchy though
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Old 22-11-2013, 23:49
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I always presumed the album would be conceptualised like a musical...she was working on it with Price...and they changed concepts and tactics...i do believe some concepts used for COADF would have been used anyway...but it is intriguing where she ma have taken it.

I do think a MadonnaHans Zimmer album would be insane...make a film like a soundtrack telling the story perhaps? let the audio tell the story as well as voice and lyrics...would be genuinely brilliant.

She tells great stories in her more conceptualised albums...which is why i adore Like a Prayer and Erotica and American Life, Ray of Light, Confessions so much...it really shapes and tells a story as a whole album. Music and MDNA kinda did too...very personal and introspective while also free and happy too...juxtaposition.

I do think we are headed and going to branch out from the MDNA era...and i feel film is a way of triggering a new passion in music too...and a new way of selling it all to the world...as well as performance but also films/visuals .

Really wished that Confessions had contineud the video storyline...and i do also think Erotica could have had a video for every song too...so many visuals come into my mind with her music i love that...that will always remain the same.

Man i love re-falling in love with the MDNA album....its perfect for these winter nights too...really dark and exorcising...wish it did so much better but hey compared to the stats of the current mainstream acts...she was/is still ahead f-ck yeah!
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Old 23-11-2013, 00:00
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I think it was supposed to be a musical film. I read there was some involvement from Luc Besson who did the Fifth Element. It wasn't actually about her life, but a fictional story about a woman who due to senility and amnesia who is looking back on her life, but imagines a different life than the one she had. She had to write music from the 20's, big band stuff from the 40's, 60's folk stuff like Joan Baez, punk from the 70's and current dance music, which is the section that COADF came from. She was to star in it, but she wasn't happy with the script. I read about it in an article in Rolling Stone around the time of Confessions. The story sounds amazing. I wonder what happened to the songs she wrote for it. She apparently wrote with not only Stuart, but also Mirwais and Patrick Leonard.
I do think musical films are a little out of fashion now though. I think it would be better if she did a musical for the stage. She has a natural affinity for stage productions as you can see on her tours. I wouldn't like it to be an autobiographical musical about her life though with her past hits. That type of thing has been so overdone. I would like a new story with all new songs by her. I think the story of the musical that was planned could make a great stage show. I wonder if she would consider using those songs at some point.
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Old 24-11-2013, 19:33
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had a massive Who-a-thon yesterday ah man what an experience in the cinema....nothing like it...i can only imagine now how i will be when i attend Madonnas tour for the first ever time <3...ah boy!

Anyways balsted MDNA again today...man has it grown on me more and more in time ...i do still feel Luvvin feels disjointed on the main disc and the bonus should have been on there as one but alas <3....

playing Skrillex now and i know he sometimes gets flack...but i have for the first time heard his Bangarang in full on You Tube links and damn that would have been a qirky addition to MDNA...had she perhaps gone all out Rave/Dub/Industrial on MDNA....but she and orbit and Demo did superb bringing those darker elements on baord...and well deserved of its recognition.
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Old 24-11-2013, 23:28
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had a massive Who-a-thon yesterday ah man what an experience in the cinema....nothing like it...i can only imagine now how i will be when i attend Madonnas tour for the first ever time <3...ah boy!

Anyways balsted MDNA again today...man has it grown on me more and more in time ...i do still feel Luvvin feels disjointed on the main disc and the bonus should have been on there as one but alas <3....

playing Skrillex now and i know he sometimes gets flack...but i have for the first time heard his Bangarang in full on You Tube links and damn that would have been a qirky addition to MDNA...had she perhaps gone all out Rave/Dub/Industrial on MDNA....but she and orbit and Demo did superb bringing those darker elements on baord...and well deserved of its recognition.
Glad you're enjoying MDNA. I've always loved it. I think it's very underrated by critics and her fans. I really like Skrillex too. I know he gets a lot of criticism but I find his style really cool. Madonna mentioned she liked him in an interview. I wouldn't mind if they worked together. He was supposed to do some tracks with No Doubt but I never heard anymore about that.
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Old 25-11-2013, 01:17
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Glad you're enjoying MDNA. I've always loved it. I think it's very underrated by critics and her fans. I really like Skrillex too. I know he gets a lot of criticism but I find his style really cool. Madonna mentioned she liked him in an interview. I wouldn't mind if they worked together. He was supposed to do some tracks with No Doubt but I never heard anymore about that.
Yeah i love his quirky style...yeah he does unfairly get criticised mainly for his "style" i guess an that Dubstep is kinda tarnished a lot as a genre....not that it should be...but i do very much think it would have been interesting with raw Madonna vocals and intense funky beats...would have been interesting if MDNA was more strongly Electronic infused....but she did wonderfully with Orbit and Demo Crew and Bennassi where she wanted to take it to new levels...something i very much enjoy about the album.

Also you do have to question...if Madonna didnt do and bring EDM into MDNA and that era (yeah i know it sold 2million but thats not the point i am getting at) would a lot of mainstream Pop music had braved EDM music later that year into this year?? i just mention it as Skrillex and Ellie became more prominent in 2012, and we had underground dance artists hit the maisntream...as well as Acoustic/Folk influsions too....much like Love Spent on here ....and of course RIhanna went full on EDM with some songs on Unapologetic and we know gaga really didcrank it this year, so yeah...just a interesting thing i picked up...i know Dubstep had been done in "Pop" beforehand by RIhanna specifically and some lighter styles by Britney...but Madonna i feel tapped into what it is about on gang bang, some girls, im addicted with intense Techno/Rave feels and rockish nature beats/rhythms with the hooks <3
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Old 25-11-2013, 23:18
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M has been in Haiti with *drumroll* Sean Penn of all people. I know they had their ups and downs and I'm not sure why but I get a warm glow when I hear they are together. I think it's maybe because he was her first love and I think of all the great music he inspired but its great they can come together for a good cause. I love how she hasn't forgot the people of haiti after all this time...Hopefully, her catching up with Sean will put her in a nostalgic mood and she can hook up woth Patrick again
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Old 26-11-2013, 03:38
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as much as i always love to see them together, i think their union was toxic ultimately and its difficult to see past that at times. there can be a very fine line between love and hate and they crossed that line several times during that marriage. personally, i think their friendship is more out in the open now due to their divorces and its admirable that they have found a deep respect for one another.

pat always emerges as the one collaborator that most fans can agree on when fans talk about future collaborators and that must count for something hopefully. i think she or her team keep their ears to the ground and most people agree a change needs to occur. when asked recently during that reddit chat "what is the quintessential Madonna album according to you?" her answer was "ray of light" and while pat's input was mainly relegated to song writing on that project, those songs were sublime. his contribution was one of the key factors in the brilliance of that record.
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Old 27-11-2013, 01:00
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The latest rumour at Madonna forums is that she is going to work with Brian Eno on the next record. It could be true as Guy her manager does manage U2 now, and Brian is known for his work with them.
Also, supposedly she was written a song with Pat Leonard and this songwriter Anjani Thomas, a jazz/folk songwriter who is known for her work with Leonard Cohen. There are supposed to start recording in January according to this rumour. But take all this with a grain of salt! There are always crazy rumours about what Madonna is doing next!
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Old 27-11-2013, 01:32
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that sounds to me like people are simply putting two and two together and coming up with whatever they think could be a likely reality. its an interesting idea and i certainly would welcome those people to be involved, but we shall just have to wait and see.

she's been so busy this year without having anything beyond "the secret project" on the go, but she has been quite prolific on the media circuit. i assume this is all profile building exercises, but i hope she really puts some promotional weight behind the next record. the main priority though is the music and i just hope she comes back on top form.
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Old 27-11-2013, 11:14
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I would love it to be true because that would hint at a mature sound and a new album release for late 2014 sounds about right because of the live nation deal.
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Old 27-11-2013, 11:54
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I would love it to be true because that would hint at a mature sound and a new album release for late 2014 sounds about right because of the live nation deal.
Not sure how I feel about this if true. Unlike you, I don't get excited about the whole mature thing. I've never been that big on U2. To me, Brian Eno is someone who's more famous than good. I know he's a critically acclaimed icon, but I find Leonard Cohen's music really dull. I'm not so big on the whole acoustic folk singer songwriter thing. To me, though, this would be a good collaboration for one song, but not a whole album of acoustic folk music.
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Old 27-11-2013, 14:18
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Brian Eno sounds like a pretty good idea. Don't get tripped up on the ''mature'' thing, he's quite experimental and he could bring a different edge to Madonna's pop sensibilities - he certainly did the same for Bowie's Low and U2's Achtung Baby.

Madonna and Sean are an interesting pair, they've been friends for years and both have matured a great deal. I hate when people make Madonna out to be a victim in that marriage - she didn't deserve the physical abuse, but from what I've read she could give as good as she got. Not to mention she flaunted her affairs with John Kennedy Jr. and the like. Neither of them were perfect, but they seem to work somehow. I wouldn't mind seeing them get back together at this point.
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Old 27-11-2013, 14:59
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I would love it to be true because that would hint at a mature sound and a new album release for late 2014 sounds about right because of the live nation deal.
i would like it to be true too, she definitely need to shake things up for the next record. a mature sound doesn't necessarily mean an acoustic album, she will no doubt add her dance influences to proceedings and the outcome could be somewhere in between like she's done in the past.

take the "nothing fails" demo "silly thing" for instance. its sounded like a dido album track in its early conception, but the polished track that madonna released is quite a departure from that early demo. i am not going to get too excited about possible collaborators at this stage, because it seems futile to be reactive to rumours, but i am excited at the prospect of change.
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Old 27-11-2013, 15:37
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i would like it to be true too, she definitely need to shake things up for the next record. a mature sound doesn't necessarily mean an acoustic album, she will no doubt add her dance influences to proceedings and the outcome could be somewhere in between like she's done in the past.

take the "nothing fails" demo "silly thing" for instance. its sounded like a dido album track in its early conception, but the polished track that madonna released is quite a departure from that early demo. i am not going to get too excited about possible collaborators at this stage, because it seems futile to be reactive to rumours, but i am excited at the prospect of change.
Agree. Mature doesn't have to mean totally folk, If that is the direction she is heading down, Madonna always puts her own unique stamp on things.

For example, I think that's why I never believed in MDNA. The Girl Gone Wild track was passed around, and rejected by, everyone from Britney to Cheryl Cole!!! before Madonna decided to use it. I know because of W.E over running she was pushed for time but still. It let her down. The real Madonna tracks on MDNA like Love Spent and Falling Free reek of Madonna because her touch can be felt. That's the difference. Madonna's real stamp is very distinctive.
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Old 27-11-2013, 15:53
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Agree. Mature doesn't have to mean totally folk, If that is the direction she is heading down, Madonna always puts her own unique stamp on things.

For example, I think that's why I never believed in MDNA. The Girl Gone Wild track was passed around, and rejected by, everyone from Britney to Cheryl Cole!!! before Madonna decided to use it. I know because of W.E over running she was pushed for time but still. It let her down. The real Madonna tracks on MDNA like Love Spent and Falling Free reek of Madonna because her touch can be felt. That's the difference. Madonna's real stamp is very distinctive.
i still love "girl gone wild", but yes, it was generic throwaway trash compared to the more personal tracks on that record. i have always loved the fun side of madonna and "girl gone wild" played on that aspect, but its certainly not up there with her carefree output like "music" or "vogue".

"love spent", "falling free", "i f'ed up" and "masterpiece" were all leagues ahead compared to other tracks on that album and i would like to see her pushing more in that direction. its all still very much madonna, "ray of light" through to "american life" had acoustic influences with a dance edge.
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