Why is it a Kiki sympathy vote? She only appeared for about 5 mins. Hardly took up a lot of airtime!

There are 3 reasons why Charlie will probably win:
1. Eastenders
2. Kiki
3. Being British

'Sympathy vote' always means 'someone I don't support may be doing better than someone I do'. It is one of a whole range of weapons in the battle to contrive a 'real winner' in case. Others are 'betting scam', 'tweenies vote', 'menopausal housewives' vote' and 'fix'.

Yes, I've noticed.

Some of the stuff written on here about Charlie is ridiculous. But then again, its DS. I shouldn't expect anything different to be honest!

Ashley has to win guys. Charlie is nice but Ashley is just amaze balls!!!

I detest Charlie's character on EE and I love seeing that she is nothing like that. She comes across as a lovely down to earth woman who clearly loves her child. I think she may have been more popular and liked if she was one of the 'bikini babes' however I admire the fact that she has not resorted to this. She is an excellent actress out of EE she had a small part in the BBC's Bleak House and her character reduced me to tears.

There's a couple of stones worth of reasons why she hasn't 'resorted' to this tbh.

Awwww bless her. She is not overweight by any means and I know she did a boot camp before going into the jungle. She obviously loves her food judging by the food fantasies she was discussing with David.

Ever since the latest Glee, whenever I see or hear Kiki, I start singing "Let's have a kiki" in my head.

Completely correct. However, it will be roundly ignored by the hormonal teenage boys who have had it in for Charlie from day one when they (correctly) marked her as their wet dream fantasy's chief competition.


Me too.


1. Don't watch Eastenders.
2. Loved Charlie before I was familiar with her daughter - or that she even had one.
3. Not British.



Great post - spot on.


Another great post. I'm going to be watching out for her.

Jeez couple of minutes into the show and she's bloody got Kiki in already for a few more votes . Please no more bloody Kiki tonight Charlie for gods sake

If we keep complaining about Kiki then the tabloids may see this and print a story about it.


I would feel a bit bad.

Cruel taunts about her daughter ?? Not at all ! The programme's use of her daughter you mean ? Has anyone on here said anything personal about the little girl herself ? I haven't seen it. If there is some then there shouldn't be but the posts I've read have objected to how Kiki was put into the programme.

Oh, I don't know, there was a real beaut on the show highlights thread when Kiki ran on set. It went 'There IT is'.

I actually almost reported that one.

It's quite sad that the ONLY thing the little boys slavering all over Ashley could come up with to scupper the competition was to bang on and on and on and ON about Charlie's daughter - who she loves.

Thankfully, it didn't work.

Maybe all the little girls were getting jealous that a sexy woman was getting attention and sided with Charlie.

Or maybe that's as ridiculous as your comment that only posters who fancy Ashley were the ones annoyed about the Kiki references.

It really isn't, you know. The thread has been littered with posts confirming that posters fancy her, will be dreaming of her etc. etc. ad infinitum. There's clear evidence of this all over the board.

But the 'you is jellus innit' argument is laughably predictable. I haven't seen that one for a couple of days.

I thought BOTH women were sexy (and I'm a woman)!

And I'm fed up hearing references to Kiki....she had NOTHING to do with the votes...people voted for Charlie because they liked her! No consipiracy theory. No evil plan.

I was making a ridiculous point to highlight the ridiculousness of your point.

Thought that was obvious,... Obviously not to you though. Always nice to see the laugh smiley mind..


Yep, see above.

I quite clearly read the point you were making. Did you read this bit: The thread has been littered with posts confirming that posters fancy her. Do you think that's true, or not? And if you admit that it is true (because it is - I'll go and find them later if you want); why is my point that people voted for her because they fancied her 'ridiculous'?

I met Charlie at the Ideal Home Show about 3 years ago with my daughter, I quietly went up to her and said hello, praised her on her current storyline and we went on our merry way, but we were so disappointed. Charlie was sullen, no smile at all, just this awe of 'look but don't touch' about her.' We went off her at that point. Yes, before anyone says, I know she was at the show and probably wanted to go about her business not being interrupted, but we deliberately made it a quick hello for that reason and at least expected a smile. Another reason why I didn't want her to win - the main one being that Ashley was in every way a lovelier person.

That isn't even the point you were making, you said:


So your argument was about the posts on here to do with Charlies' daughter. Voting wasn't mentioned.

Not a lot of point debating with someone who forgets what their point is.

The people voting for Ashley because they fancied her wanted to scupper the competition. It's quite simple, really.

It is, yeah.

I'll try one more time. How is it ridiculous to suggest that posters on here supported Ashley because they fancied her, when there are posts all over the board about how much they fancied her? It's a simple (as in easy, just for clarity for the easily confused) question.

Ah, I think I've figured it out.

I wrote:


Which you MISREAD as 'ONLY the little boys slavering all over Ashley'. At least I hope that's what you did.......


...............because the bit in bold wasn't what I said at all.