I do think Ashley will win.

But if she doesn't we will get her fans saying it's because she is American, and Charlie is British.

There is, whether you like it or not, a lot of people who like Charlie for Charlie. Which could win it for her.

Hoping Ashley will win and break the American duck, but it all depends on the edit

If Kiki is mentioned every few minutes, Charlie may just sneak over the finish line

Ashley has been the best all round package this year as she has got stuck in from day 1 without any sobbing or booing

More likely to win it for her. People seem desperate for a first American win.

Charlie has been equally as good, but because she isn't as loud as Ashley she often missed out on trials, the trials she had she put her all into them, plus she showed genuine care for other contestants.......I don't remember her crying or booing??? she was upset they didn't open the door to see her daughter, that's normal...When Ashley insisted she have the first phone call because her mum wouldn't know how she was doing, all the women in the camp with children, would have loved that call, but none of them including Charlie stopped Ashley from getting her own way, yet they must have known her mum could watch it on the internet.

All I have seen Ashley do is smile and dance, the producers have allowed her to be the narrator,to give her more airtime.

Why is OK for you to want Ashley to win because she's American, yet people are mortified at the thought of people voting for Charlie because she's British

I just think it would be nice for an American to finally get over the finish line as a winner for a UK show for the first ever time

Bib - I wasn't implying Charlie was crying or booing, I was just implying it has been nice to see Ashley get stuck in every day, despite a certain someone eating up most of the airtime in the first week with her OTT histronics and refusal to do trials

No, desperate for an Ashley win. Where she comes from is irrelevant.

That's the whole point.

Not at all.
The point being made is simply that with previous contestants who have appeared on British reality game shows who just happened to be American they didn't finish in the place that their perceived popularity would suggest they would.

Americans tend to underperform based on their perceived popularity. That's all. It's not that people want her to win just because she's American.

yeah but loads of people here dislike americans

And most have never been to America. I would far rather stay there than here.

Completely agree. Quite a few British celebs supporting her too, I know Denise van Outen is backing her for example.

I couldn't care less where Ashley is from. I like her, not her nationality, and I think she deserves to win. Would be great for her to win as an American, and really give her confidence in herself alone and not just as part of PCD I think she has much more to gain from winning than Charlie does.

And Americans who don't like British people... so what?


Really? Why is that, what do you imagine is so much better?


And there will be American people who live here supporting Ash because she is american, quite understandable really.
They will both benefits from their time in there are they have shown themselves to be nice women.


This is a non issue and some of the claims being made look like real straw grasping moments.

Really? Why is that, what do you imagine is so much better?

I have been there over 40 times and I can assure you if I had the Money I would be off tomorrow. The only thing I would miss is my Family.

I really hope not. In my opinion she absolutely deserves to win.

I don't think Charlie even deserves to be in the running at all. In my opinion, it should be David, Hugo, even Eric. I'll be really disappointed if Charlie wins, worst Q of J ever!

Sadly - Jingoism (and in this year's show - Easterndersism) will win over genuine deservedness. Its weird that the producers without fail invite an American over to give the show some 'exoticism' and yet no matter HOW entertaining that person is - you'll never get an American winner. The ultimate example was David Gest who is possibly the most entertaining person IAC has ever had - and even he could only manage 4th place.

Possibly, but at the same time, I doubt it. I even saw a couple of people, can't remember the usernames, in one of the "Who's your favourite?" threads a couple of days ago saying that she shouldn't win because she wasn't British. Though I'm sure it's a very small minority, thankfully.

I'm not too bothered for an 'American win' (just an Ashley win) but if Ashley doesn't win, then I can't see an American in future ever winning the show, unless they managed to nab Johnny Depp. Highly doubtful.


Oh! David Gest. I almost forgot about him - I wanted him to win that year too. The same with Janice Dickinson a couple of years after that. Both entertained me the most in their respective years. Ashley is generally more likeable than those two though so I think she will just manage it, though the vote will probably be close.

I note you don't actually say what is better.

40 visits to the States doesn't come cheap... save up and go.

You will find that being anywhere for the humdrum of daily life is nothing like visiting casually. Even so if I truly felt like that I'd make it happen. It's really quite easy.


But don't tell anyone you are missing your family or they will say you are a stupid fake whiner who should have just stayed at home.

Ashley being American won't help matters but the main thing that'll prevent her winning is the Eastenders vote.

They'll be a lot of multi voting on the forums for Ashley,. especially on here. The armchair voters at home usually only vote one or twice, this is why I think Ashley will win.

This forum has a poor record of picking winners, especially females. Eastenders fans vote regardless of quality across all platforms. Soap awards, reality TV, the lot.

I dunno it is hard to call but i hope it dosnt

Hope Ashley wins, whether she is British or not shouldn't make a difference.

Same here. I just like her.

So do you think it made a difference now that Ashley has lost?

She really deserved to win