Reason why G4/Steve fans are still arguing

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steve007

19-12-2004

Who cares.....!

I mean really, everyone knows who won and why - votes.

G4 came second. If they manage to get a career out of xfactor, then great, I'm sure they have almost as big a fan base as Steve, so why shouldnt they have success.

I for one would like to see certain people accept Steve has won, stop making the cloaked insults and get on supporting whoever it was they supported, whilst being willing to attribute Steve's win to popularity and talent.

Or is that too much to ask?!

baileybots

19-12-2004

Originally Posted by allinuse:
“I agree with the points munta made above, and also the way he responded when he found out the poster's age.

Perhaps if more of the 'grown-ups' took the same time and trouble before firing off retorts, there'd be less animosity.

You can hardly blame adolescents for posting as they do when there are adults showing a distinct lack of tolerance to each other.

The exchange above for example - why assume there was malice intended, when a reasonable response could have instigated a conversation and broken down some barriers?

I can't imagine rational adults behaving in the way some do on this forum if they were in a face to face situation, instead of behind a computer screen.

It's spoiling some healthy debate for the majority of posters.”

but isnt it fun

when in the middle of a really good debate you get the, you cant say that you're a bully,

or some stupid comment that you know that a youngster is posting...then low and behold a flamewar starts

baileybots

19-12-2004

Originally Posted by steve007:
“Who cares.....!

I mean really, everyone knows who won and why - votes.

G4 came second. If they manage to get a career out of xfactor, then great, I'm sure they have almost as big a fan base as Steve, so why shouldnt they have success.

I for one would like to see certain people accept Steve has won, stop making the cloaked insults and get on supporting whoever it was they supported, whilst being willing to attribute Steve's win to popularity and talent.

Or is that too much to ask?! ”

and the cloaked insults as well

, the ones with the smileys always attached

allinuse

19-12-2004

Originally Posted by baileybots:
“but isnt it fun when in the middle of a really good debate you get the, you cant say that you're a bully, or some stupid comment that you know that a youngster is posting...then low and behold a flamewar starts ”

I thick I must be slow tonight, but I'm not sure what you mean

Gwenllian23

19-12-2004

Originally Posted by moneybags:
“no i am not a kid.so dont be so nasty.
some people just like being rude for the sake of it. ”

I was not being rude moneybags, its difficult to know on here how old people are

. I thought you were a youngster its as simple as that.

*buttercup*

19-12-2004

Originally Posted by Gwenllian23:
“I was not being rude moneybags, its difficult to know on here how old people are . I thought you were a youngster its as simple as that. ”

well i am not that young,and yes you where rude,
but then i looked and found out you are a g4 fan.so in future ask.

baileybots

19-12-2004

Originally Posted by allinuse:
“I thick I must be slow tonight, but I'm not sure what you mean ”

put it this way as soon as i post, depending on the time of day ,.. i know that 90% of my posts will be answered by certain members, ..i just have to comment on anything and up they pop,.. and most dont really have a sensible post,.. it is the veiled insults with the smileys inserted toward anything i could be commenting on, ..more so if a post has anything to do with a favorite act,.. this is the kind of thing that has chased most of the longer members from this forum (i and i do mean longer than a few months), you cant have a good convo now unless you totally agree with some members

baileybots

19-12-2004

Originally Posted by allinuse:
“I thick I must be slow tonight, but I'm not sure what you mean ”

i was being a might sarcastic sorry

Gwenllian23

19-12-2004

Originally Posted by moneybags:
“well i am not that young,and yes you where rude,
but then i looked and found out you are a g4 fan.so in future ask. ”

Excuse me?

allinuse

19-12-2004

Originally Posted by baileybots:
“put it this way as soon as i post, depending on the time of day ,.. i know that 90% of my posts will be answered by certain members, ..i just have to comment on anything and up they pop,.. and most dont really have a sensible post,.. it is the veiled insults with the smileys inserted toward anything i could be commenting on, ..more so if a post has anything to do with a favorite act,.. this is the kind of thing that has chased most of the longer members from this forum (i and i do mean longer than a few months), you cant have a good convo now unless you totally agree with some members”

Thanks for clearing that up for me.

*Eileen*

19-12-2004

Originally Posted by moneybags:
“well i am not that young,and yes you where rude,
but then i looked and found out you are a g4 fan.so in future ask. ”

moneybags, that wasn't very nice. Gwen is one of the nicest posters on here and the fact that she is a G4 fan has nothing to do with that - and that's a fellow Steve fan talking.

*buttercup*

19-12-2004

Originally Posted by Gwenllian23:
“Excuse me? ”

why what have you done.

pennycandle

19-12-2004

Originally Posted by moneybags:
“well i am not that young,and yes you where rude,
but then i looked and found out you are a g4 fan.so in future ask. ”

.....moneybags, you are now taking this too far......you have just insulted one of my friends - you will excuse yourself by saying it is "a joke" I am sure

Gwenllian23

19-12-2004

Originally Posted by *Eileen*:
“moneybags, that wasn't very nice. Gwen is one of the nicest posters on here and the fact that she is a G4 fan has nothing to do with that - and that's a fellow Steve fan talking.”

Thanks Eileen, I really appreciate that comment, it is much needed right now.

*buttercup*

19-12-2004

Originally Posted by pennycandle:
“.....moneybags, you are now taking this too far......you have just insulted one of my friends - you will excuse yourself by saying it is "a joke" I am sure ”

your friend insulted me first.

what is this all pick on moneybags.
penny why are you mad.sorry if i have upset you sweety,
well i never ment to uset anyone,but she did have a dig at me,but i let things go;

Gwenllian23

19-12-2004

Originally Posted by pennycandle:
“.....moneybags, you are now taking this too far......you have just insulted one of my friends - you will excuse yourself by saying it is "a joke" I am sure ”

Thanks Pen

baileybots

19-12-2004

Originally Posted by moneybags:
“your friend insulted me first. what is this all pick on moneybags.
penny why are you mad.sorry if i have upset you sweety,
well i never ment to uset anyone,but she did have a dig at me,but i let things go; ”

why dont you call them bullys they ganging up on you

*buttercup*

19-12-2004

she started on me first,but never mind.its only a forum not life or death is it.

singingmuppet

19-12-2004

Originally Posted by pennycandle:
“....moneybags, I think the vast majority of people never saw Gareth as "loser"......more as the"runner-up" who sold millions of singles, and was/is very successful in Europe/Asia. And if I may correct you........I have NEVER personally "bashed" or insulted Steve........and I rather think you are fixated with the word "loser" and seem intent on brandishing it about all the time. Steve won - well done to him (I did actually visit Team Steve last Sunday morning to offer my congratulations, as did a lot of Team G4). G4 were runners-up who will be releasing a single and an album in the New Year, which of course we are all thrilled about over on Team G4. So as far as we are concerned - yes Steve won on the night - but G4 have also come out of the competition with an enormous amount of credibility and a career as well.”

Thanks for that Penny. We don;t always agree but calling a runner up a loser is so off the mark. None of the finalists are losers because they have been given a chance to showcase themselves. They may or may not be successful but they are not losers. I have stated repeatedly that I am not a fan of either of the top 2, that doesn;t make them lsoers, just not my cup of tea. That is the way with these competitions and unfortunately you will always get wind up merchants on these threads. to my cost I now know it is better to keep your cool, its not worth getting banned

*buttercup*

19-12-2004

Originally Posted by baileybots:
“why dont you call them bullys they ganging up on you”

i know what they are doing baily i am not stupid

if i did not know better i would think they where setting me up to get me banned.but they are nice members so just a misunderstanding.

singingmuppet

19-12-2004

Originally Posted by munta:
“True about her sge. Sometimes its hard to remember that others posing are not of the same advance years as my self .

xIxLUVxG4x - I hope you understand my post in the direction that it was intended.”

Lose the sarcasm pal, I am a Gareth fan of probabaly more advanced years than you, but don;t hold a more valid opionion because of age

*buttercup*

19-12-2004

Originally Posted by singingmuppet:
“Thanks for that Penny. We don;t always agree but calling a runner up a loser is so off the mark. None of the finalists are losers because they have been given a chance to showcase themselves. They may or may not be successful but they are not losers. I have stated repeatedly that I am not a fan of either of the top 2, that doesn;t make them lsoers, just not my cup of tea. That is the way with these competitions and unfortunately you will always get wind up merchants on these threads. to my cost I now know it is better to keep your cool, its not worth getting banned ”

i am a big gareth fan even though i am older,why dont you read my post properly.i said the media call him a loser.not me in my eyes he is a sweetheart.

singingmuppet

19-12-2004

Originally Posted by moneybags:
“i am a big gareth fan even though i am older,why dont you read my post properly.i said the media call him a loser.not me in my eyes he is a sweetheart. ”

I wasn;t getting at you moneybags but the media in calling runner ups losers, its well out of order and fodder fot the gutter press

baileybots

19-12-2004

Originally Posted by moneybags:
“i know what they are doing baily i am not stupid
if i did not know better i would think they where setting me up to get me banned.but they are nice members so just a misunderstanding. ”

okey doakey you are a big girl/bloke, i think you can fen for yourself

Gwenllian23

19-12-2004

Originally Posted by moneybags:
“she started on me first,but never mind.its only a forum not life or death is it.”

I said I thought you were a youngster, which I did. How you can say that is starting on you I have no idea.
I was not rude, you, however have been on several occasions.

I'd be grateful if you would now just drop it and if you don't like my posts then put me on ignore.

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