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Never a good sign
Quite a few weeks into the show and I now know the people left are Lucy, Ashleigh, Maria, Patrick, Navdeep and the two other guys. I am good with names usually, so to me it's not a good sign if I can't remember who they are. They also look similar to me, the main difference between being the skin and the height. Having watched the show for years, I know usually when I cant' recall names like this, I'm not the only one and have never seen these candidates win!
And to note, it's not because they are poor candidates, they just blend in more than stand out . . . |
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One is Andrew... I can't even picture the other one, let alone remember his name.
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I think that's more a reflection of yourselves than the show.
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I think that's more a reflection of yourselves than the show.
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Agreed, I could pick them out with my eyes closed. Don't blame the show if you aren't watching properly.
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As I said, I am good with names. And faces. Those two are not memorable.
Did you miss Week 3 or anything? |
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Well, that's still down to you. I find them very memorable and considering they have both been PM on the same task, there is no excuse for not knowing their names, imo.
Did you miss Week 3 or anything? |
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Not missed any! I normally know everyone by about the third week. Always a few that stand out immediately, then the others fall into place. Also, I don't rate the young version as much as the main one, so maybe I'm not paying as much attention. We never really hear much about the candidates after the show has finished about the winners, where in the adult version we do.
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I'd just like to make a point here that on the adult version there have been eight winners, so there has been more opportunity to find out what they've done. Young Apprentice has only had two winners so far, and both of them have continued their education. Arjun was named Face of the Future at the Asian Voice Political and Public Life Awards, and then went of to do engineering science at Oxford University. Zara is currently studying at Hurtwood House, a boarding school with an emphasis on the arts. I imagine that neither of them have really had a chance for their business to take off yet, but I have no doubt it will.
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I'd just like to make a point here that on the adult version there have been eight winners, so there has been more opportunity to find out what they've done. Young Apprentice has only had two winners so far, and both of them have continued their education. Arjun was named Face of the Future at the Asian Voice Political and Public Life Awards, and then went of to do engineering science at Oxford University. Zara is currently studying at Hurtwood House, a boarding school with an emphasis on the arts. I imagine that neither of them have really had a chance for their business to take off yet, but I have no doubt it will.
As you say, the young apprentices are even less visible being young. Some were only sixteen on the show, and like Zara, some are now doing the second part of their A levels. Others have gone to university. Its not surprising they are not visible, or building businesses, and there's no information on where a lot are. |
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This is the last year of YP from what I've read, it's simply not as popular as the adult version.
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Andrew and Steven.
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This is the last year of YP from what I've read, it's simply not as popular as the adult version.
I enjoy it, but not as much as the main/adult series. Two series per year is too much for most people and I'd hate to see the main series suffer because of it. |
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I hope it's true, to be honest.
I enjoy it, but not as much as the main/adult series. Two series per year is too much for most people and I'd hate to see the main series suffer because of it. |
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Well, Big Brother gets away with having two series per year - an ordinary version and a celebrity edition. If the BB format can cope with having two series a year for such a long time, why can't The Apprentice? The Apprentice doesn't eat up your life as much as Big Brother does anyway.
I hope it isn't axed. |
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Quite a few weeks into the show and I now know the people left are Lucy, Ashleigh, Maria, Patrick, Navdeep and the two other guys. I am good with names usually, so to me it's not a good sign if I can't remember who they are. They also look similar to me, the main difference between being the skin and the height. Having watched the show for years, I know usually when I cant' recall names like this, I'm not the only one and have never seen these candidates win!
And to note, it's not because they are poor candidates, they just blend in more than stand out . . . I have noticed Andrew & think he's good, as do some others on DS. Re "(I) have never seen these candidates win!" You don't have to win to benefit from the programme. On reality TV programmes, the real winners often don't win the programme. |
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I think Stephen and Andrew are both better candidates than at least Patrick, so I don't think their ability has got that much to do with why you can't identify them.
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I think Stephen and Andrew are both better candidates than at least Patrick, so I don't think their ability has got that much to do with why you can't identify them.
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I know one is Steven and one is Andrew, but they look quite similar, so I do get confused
![]() Andrew is the more spotty one, and Steven is the one who was in the boardroom last week I think? |
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Steven is better than Patrick, Andrew is about on par with him, I reckon. And I do think that Patrick has quite an eccentric style about him, and is easier to pick out than either of those two.
I see Andrew as a decent candidate, probably got more to offer, whereas Patrick is just a bit rubbish. Patrick does have a distinctive look though so that's probably why OP remembered him over the other boys. |
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I still like the show, but they could get rid of Alan 'one-trick-pony Sugar as far as I'm concerned. He's a berk. Fun to laugh at, but the jokes wearing very thin now.
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Well, Big Brother gets away with having two series per year - an ordinary version and a celebrity edition. If the BB format can cope with having two series a year for such a long time, why can't The Apprentice? The Apprentice doesn't eat up your life as much as Big Brother does anyway.
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Nah Andrew is definitely better than Patrick! He has much more to say for himself, particularly good at pitching and good at the haggling task. Hasn't made any grievous errors that I can think of (bar overspending in the tea task, but that was arguably because of poor direction from PM).
I see Andrew as a decent candidate, probably got more to offer, whereas Patrick is just a bit rubbish. Patrick does have a distinctive look though so that's probably why OP remembered him over the other boys. |
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I disagree, I don't think Andrew has been good at all. He was very strong on the cookery book task, but since then he hasn't really done anything spectacular, and has been quite consistently weak in my opinion. He appears to be better than Patrick, because he has a way about him that makes him appear confident, but if you think about what he's actually done, he hasn't done that much more than Patrick. Even when he won as PM, it wasn't a good win, and he probably would have been fired if they'd lost.
Without question, Andrew's weakest task was Week 5, but he has shown plenty of skills in previous weeks that put Patrick to shame. He certainly was strong in Week 1, selling strongly and he was the highest seller at the market. In Week 2, as you say, he performed very well in the pitches and identified what was wrong very quickly, but he was ignored. Week 3 was a bad week for him in terms of management, because he didn't really manage it all that well. However, he was excellent when it came to performing on the task. His negotiations were terrific, especially the car. I wrote at the time that it was frustrating that he didn't plan that well, because he did a great job on the negotiation side and had he got the cash register at the end, it could have been a lot better than it was. Week 4 was quite a strong week again, in my opinion, particularly as he ran the kitchen extremely effectively. Compare this to Platinum's kitchen which was a mess from start to finish and consider that Odyssey's kitchen had more people in at the start. Lord Sugar said he didn't take his experience and apply it to the task, as far as I'm concerned he did, with the structure of the kitchen. As for Week 5, as I say, it was a weak task, but lets not forget he contributed a lot to the design stage and he delivered an extremely efficient pitch. What has Patrick done in that time? Are you really suggesting he's done anywhere near as much as Andrew? I think its quite insulting to compare the two when all Patrick has done is fail completely at PM (though I will admit he was good at the design stage of Task 1), mess up the pitch in Week 2 and wander around criticizing whoever's sub-team he isn't on. I really do think that making comparisons between the two is unfair on Andrew and I really do think that you are completely disregarding a lot of what he's done. ETA: Oh and I fancy Maria would have been fired in Week 3 had they lost considering most of the team kept talking about how she hadn't really learned from the previous week. |
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I respectfully disagree, at least in part.
Without question, Andrew's weakest task was Week 5, but he has shown plenty of skills in previous weeks that put Patrick to shame. He certainly was strong in Week 1, selling strongly and he was the highest seller at the market. In Week 2, as you say, he performed very well in the pitches and identified what was wrong very quickly, but he was ignored. Week 3 was a bad week for him in terms of management, because he didn't really manage it all that well. However, he was excellent when it came to performing on the task. His negotiations were terrific, especially the car. I wrote at the time that it was frustrating that he didn't plan that well, because he did a great job on the negotiation side and had he got the cash register at the end, it could have been a lot better than it was. Week 4 was quite a strong week again, in my opinion, particularly as he ran the kitchen extremely effectively. Compare this to Platinum's kitchen which was a mess from start to finish and consider that Odyssey's kitchen had more people in at the start. Lord Sugar said he didn't take his experience and apply it to the task, as far as I'm concerned he did, with the structure of the kitchen. As for Week 5, as I say, it was a weak task, but lets not forget he contributed a lot to the design stage and he delivered an extremely efficient pitch. What has Patrick done in that time? Are you really suggesting he's done anywhere near as much as Andrew? I think its quite insulting to compare the two when all Patrick has done is fail completely at PM (though I will admit he was good at the design stage of Task 1), mess up the pitch in Week 2 and wander around criticizing whoever's sub-team he isn't on. I really do think that making comparisons between the two is unfair on Andrew and I really do think that you are completely disregarding a lot of what he's done. ETA: Oh and I fancy Maria would have been fired in Week 3 had they lost considering most of the team kept talking about how she hadn't really learned from the previous week. |
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