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Old 01-12-2012, 12:18
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First of all, let me just say I'm a HUGE Doctor Who fan, like... massive Who fan! Love the series, seen a lot of the old episodes and every single one since it came back in 05. I'm currently coming to the end of one of my Who-marathons, the conclusion of the 08-10 specials.

Now... or should I say "however"... my love of Matt Smith is about as big my love for carrots (which basically means I'm not bothered). Why? I don't know. For a series I love I find it strange that I can't adapt to Smith since his introduction in 2010. What I find strange is my best friend (literally a Doctor Who maniac fan) assures me that Matt Smith is "the best Doctor ever". So where am I going wrong? Is it the writing? Is it Amy/Rory? I dunno!

I've very seldom been able to stick to series 6 or 7, and I find myself less interested in some episodes no matter how hard I try.... thoughts and opinions would be extremely welcome!
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Old 01-12-2012, 13:10
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I was like that at first, maybe you should watch some old regeneration stories and some debut stories, the show is all about change, which you need to remember when watching Matt Smith. His doctor is different from Tennant's which is what makes him so good. If you want to see the good in Matt Smith, try to watch all of series 5, watching the coninuous run might help, if not then not everyone likes all the Doctors (I do cos its all Doctor Who to me anyway ), so no one will blame you for not watching it as much.
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Old 01-12-2012, 13:21
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I was like that at first, maybe you should watch some old regeneration stories and some debut stories, the show is all about change, which you need to remember when watching Matt Smith. His doctor is different from Tennant's which is what makes him so good. If you want to see the good in Matt Smith, try to watch all of series 5, watching the coninuous run might help, if not then not everyone likes all the Doctors (I do cos its all Doctor Who to me anyway ), so no one will blame you for not watching it as much.
Exactly. I never fancied Peter Davison when he first came on, but still watched. Going back and watching them again now, I like him more.
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Old 01-12-2012, 14:05
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I can see where the poster is coming from. I've also been a life long fan of Doctor Who Since Pertwee, just remember the last couple of Troughtons, and think that Matt Smith is sometimes a bit too silly and camp to be fully enjoyed. A lot of the stories of his tenure I have enjoyed but there is short pieces of camp antics that embarress me and can't wait until the story resumes. For example is last years Christmas special, 'the Dr, the widow and the wardrobe', I quite liked the story, not the best who by a long way, but when the tinkly music came on and he whizzed around showing off his treats for the family I litterally groaned, in a sort of 'Time and the rani' sort of pratfalling way!....

P.S I miss the cliffhangers, surely a staple of Doctor who's enjoyement.
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Old 01-12-2012, 14:13
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I can see where the poster is coming from. I've also been a life long fan of Doctor Who Since Pertwee, just remember the last couple of Troughtons, and think that Matt Smith is sometimes a bit too silly and camp to be fully enjoyed. A lot of the stories of his tenure I have enjoyed but there is short pieces of camp antics that embarress me and can't wait until the story resumes. For example is last years Christmas special, 'the Dr, the widow and the wardrobe', I quite liked the story, not the best who by a long way, but when the tinkly music came on and he whizzed around showing off his treats for the family I litterally groaned, in a sort of 'Time and the rani' sort of pratfalling way!....

P.S I miss the cliffhangers, surely a staple of Doctor who's enjoyement.

For me it's the opposite. I really like Matt Smith's Doctor but a lot of his stories so far have been crap.

I've also had it the other way round when like the OP as well when Colin Baker took over. Wasn't a huge fan of his Doctor at the time but the stories where actually quite good aside from the obvious two, but on the whole it was worth sticking with the show for story enjoyment alone.

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Old 01-12-2012, 15:27
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Is matt camp? I think not!
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Old 01-12-2012, 15:49
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I find this sort of navel gazing fandom wearisome. If you don't like it don't watch it. If you want to stick with it do so. Not sure why anyone else should care either eay. I know I don't. Perhaps you could pay a therapist to talk through your feelings with you.
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Old 01-12-2012, 15:59
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Surely it's for you to think about and explain rather than for us to second guess? I mean that in a nice way, but it seems a bit of a pointless thread otherwise
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Old 01-12-2012, 16:40
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I think the acting in the Moffat Era is probably the strongest we've seen in New Who, but I do agree that the writing is slightly off. I think the standalone episodes are a a lot better than the storyline episodes since the Moff took over.
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Old 01-12-2012, 16:47
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Apologies for my rude tone in the initial post. Just frustrating. I mean three years on and this is still an issue? The question seems odd. Like asking 'why don't I like strawberry Jam?'. Its your own mind. Not sure what anyone else can add.
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Old 01-12-2012, 17:58
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This really isn't my favourite era of Who by a long way. And I nearly stopped watching during season 5. I realised I just didn't care about Matt's Doctor, or Amy. Emotionally, the whole show was empty.

But then I thought, well, any Who is better than no Who. It is better now, but I am still looking forward to Moffatt leaving.
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Old 01-12-2012, 18:08
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I find this sort of navel gazing fandom wearisome. If you don't like it don't watch it. If you want to stick with it do so. Not sure why anyone else should care either eay. I know I don't. Perhaps you could pay a therapist to talk through your feelings with you.
Apologies for my rude tone in the initial post. Just frustrating. I mean three years on and this is still an issue? The question seems odd. Like asking 'why don't I like strawberry Jam?'. Its your own mind. Not sure what anyone else can add.
I had to giggle at these responses.

I agree in a way, saladfingers, but I suspect the OP just wants to see if anyone else feels the same. I remember daveyboy's thread when series 5 started, saying he felt something was missing from DW, and I was pleased to find others felt that as well as me.

To clarify, I still feel that about series 5 & 6, though the fault is definitely not with Matt, for me. I think he's a great Doctor. In fact all the characters have been good (I love Rory, still )

I agree with davey's post earlier in the thread - it's not Matt, it's the stories.
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Old 01-12-2012, 18:35
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Personally I prefer the stories now. RTD's era seemed a bit too domestic and earthy for me.
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Old 01-12-2012, 18:50
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First of all, let me just say I'm a HUGE Doctor Who fan, like... massive Who fan! Love the series, seen a lot of the old episodes and every single one since it came back in 05. I'm currently coming to the end of one of my Who-marathons, the conclusion of the 08-10 specials.

Now... or should I say "however"... my love of Matt Smith is about as big my love for carrots (which basically means I'm not bothered). Why? I don't know. For a series I love I find it strange that I can't adapt to Smith since his introduction in 2010. What I find strange is my best friend (literally a Doctor Who maniac fan) assures me that Matt Smith is "the best Doctor ever". So where am I going wrong? Is it the writing? Is it Amy/Rory? I dunno!

I've very seldom been able to stick to series 6 or 7, and I find myself less interested in some episodes no matter how hard I try.... thoughts and opinions would be extremely welcome!
I do sympathise with your view. A change in production team and a new main writer and actor was going to change things.
My own interpretation is that Matt Smith is a good Doctor but I dont always likehis scatty professor interpretation at times which is overplayed at times.

His Doctor is less open than DT so you cant really read him as easily which may be a factor.Teaming 11 with Amy who was a hard unlikeable character was imo a huge mistake as was the over emphasis on Amy's story last season.
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The style of the show has also changed as It feels the Doctor is a bit more Harry Potter 'magical' now. RTD's style was a bit more action style Doctor.if that makes sense

But I have great hopes of Jenna Louise Coleman and 11.together.
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Old 01-12-2012, 20:05
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I have slowly grown to like Matt but find his stories a bit nondescript.
Loved the Tennant years.It just seems a touch empty these days.
I still think there was too much change when DT left.Overnight we had a new Doctor,new writer,new assistant,even new logo and opening titles.It just seemed to me like a different programme.
That aside I still watch religiously!
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Old 01-12-2012, 20:19
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I liked the DT/RTD era.

I like the MS/SM era now. MS/SM stories are cool....
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Old 01-12-2012, 20:21
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I liked the DT/RTD era.

I like the MS/SM era now. MS/SM stories are cool....
Sorry . . . I read that as S&M stories are cool I think I need more the 4 hours of sleep out of 48.
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Old 01-12-2012, 20:22
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First of all, let me just say I'm a HUGE Doctor Who fan, like... massive Who fan! Love the series, seen a lot of the old episodes and every single one since it came back in 05. I'm currently coming to the end of one of my Who-marathons, the conclusion of the 08-10 specials.

Now... or should I say "however"... my love of Matt Smith is about as big my love for carrots (which basically means I'm not bothered). Why? I don't know. For a series I love I find it strange that I can't adapt to Smith since his introduction in 2010. What I find strange is my best friend (literally a Doctor Who maniac fan) assures me that Matt Smith is "the best Doctor ever". So where am I going wrong? Is it the writing? Is it Amy/Rory? I dunno!

I've very seldom been able to stick to series 6 or 7, and I find myself less interested in some episodes no matter how hard I try.... thoughts and opinions would be extremely welcome!
No idea why you don't like Matt but can I suggest that if you don't like carrots, then try dipping them in some humous... lovely stuff!
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Old 01-12-2012, 20:22
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So where am I going wrong? Is it the writing?
What has the writing got to do with you?
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Old 01-12-2012, 20:29
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No idea why you don't like Matt but can I suggest that if you don't like carrots, then try dipping them in some humous... lovely stuff!
They are nice roasted. Or boiled with spuds and all mashed up together with loads of butter. Or how about carrot cake? Yum.

What has the writing got to do with you?
Perhaps the OP is Moff incognito? It's confession time!!
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Old 01-12-2012, 20:33
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Behave!
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Old 01-12-2012, 20:37
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Don't hold your breath.
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Old 01-12-2012, 20:39
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It is all Moffat (at least for me it is). His insistence on a more frenetic pacing, on intense and insane focusing on the sidekick at the great expense of The Doctor and radical changing of some of the lore of the show into counter-intuitive convolutions has left me and my friends vastly underwhelmed. We are simply waiting on him to leave so that we can get back to the good stuff. I already have a few rants on other threads about this, so I won't belabor the points here, but I think that you are suffering from Moffat-i-tis the way that we are.
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Old 01-12-2012, 20:58
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They are nice roasted. Or boiled with spuds and all mashed up together with loads of butter. Or how about carrot cake? Yum.
Of course, carrot cake, how could I forget about that!? Carrot and coriander soup is also nice (I offer these suggestions as a fellow non-carrot fan btw).
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Old 01-12-2012, 21:21
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It is all Moffat (at least for me it is). His insistence on a more frenetic pacing, on intense and insane focusing on the sidekick at the great expense of The Doctor and radical changing of some of the lore of the show into counter-intuitive convolutions has left me and my friends vastly underwhelmed. We are simply waiting on him to leave so that we can get back to the good stuff. I already have a few rants on other threads about this, so I won't belabor the points here, but I think that you are suffering from Moffat-i-tis the way that we are.
Speak for yourself
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