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This seems to reflect a paternalistic (gender notwithstanding) view towards victims of abuse. They must behave in a manner you view as appropriate or "dignified". Certain schools of psychology would call this repression, not dignity.
Jahmene doesn't wallow in his experiences. He implements them to make positive change in his life. He cites them as motivation for his performing in general, and in this contest specifically. Your "seen but not heard" attitude towards victims suggests to me that you might want to limit your contributions to the financial side. The impact your involvement is having might not be entirely positive. |
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This seems to reflect a paternalistic (gender notwithstanding) view towards victims of abuse. They must behave in a manner you view as appropriate or "dignified". Certain schools of psychology would call this repression, not dignity.
Jahmene doesn't wallow in his experiences. He implements them to make positive change in his life. He cites them as motivation for his performing in general, and in this contest specifically. Your "seen but not heard" attitude towards victims suggests to me that you might want to limit your contributions to the financial side. The impact your involvement is having might not be entirely positive. |
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From the direction of this thread and the articles about him I might start watching it!
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Well, there's a market for misery. There's even a special section for miserable lives in book shops!
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Well, there's a market for misery. There's even a special section for miserable lives in book shops!
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Well, there's a market for misery. There's even a special section for miserable lives in book shops!
Those that can only see the negatives in the situation Jahmene is in and not the obvious positives. All because they are afraid that what they consider sob stories, will influence the vote and Jahmene might win over their favourite boy band. Who will they throw their knickers at then? |
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You're assuming a lot about other people's views. We're just sick of his sob stories. Couldn't care less how it influences the vote.
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Well if he makes the final what's gonna be better the screeching or a special sob story again
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I thought it was really touching. If anyone thinks Jahmene would use such a thing to get votes they are sick in the head.
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I thought it was really touching. If anyone thinks Jahmene would use such a thing to get votes they are sick in the head.
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Yep I agree. I remember reading DS a few years back and people saying Joe would be a huge interntaional pop star, same with Matt Cardle. This forum does make me chuckle.
Now we get Little Fix, Wand Erection, Oily Murs & Dulisa being publicised on the XF & every newspaper every week to sell their second rate auto-tuned noise. There are artists out there a million times better than this rabble who will never make it because they don't get the exposure - all because they refuse to sell-out and make money for the corporations. |
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get real they would do anything to gain extra votes
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Then again, it all depends on the backing each act gets. 1D are only popular because of the $10m advertising campaign to make them big in the US and major tv networks being paid to have them on their shows.
Now we get Little Fix, Wand Erection, Oily Murs & Dulisa being publicised on the XF & every newspaper every week to sell their second rate auto-tuned noise. There are artists out there a million times better than this rabble who will never make it because they don't get the exposure - all because they refuse to sell-out and make money for the corporations. One direction are huge because they make good songs and look good, nothing to do with advertising. |
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..why is everyone so cynical?
I haven't questioned his motivation. That's between him and his conscience. |
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If anyone thinks Jahmene would use such a thing to get votes they are sick in the head.
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I thought it was really touching. If anyone thinks Jahmene would use such a thing to get votes they are sick in the head.
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The fact is, sob stories do influence the votors, hence why the X-Factor bods actively encourage their use (which was parodied to great effect in the Peter Kay spoof Britain's Got The Pop Factor) and have ridiculous themes like 'Dedicate A Song' (aka 'Tell The World Your Sob Story') Week. I have no doubt the the X-Factor bods want Jahmene in the final, so they're playing him to the max, which is unfair on him. If he gets through to the final, it should be because people think he deserves to be there based on his talent and his performances, not because he's had the most tragic life of the remaining contestants.
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It's quite telling that they're having to wheel out a sob story for him at the semi final stage, when really his singing should be doing the talking at this point of the competition.
Probably a last desperate throw of the dice from the producers to stop Chris winning. |
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I thought it was really touching. If anyone thinks Jahmene would use such a thing to get votes they are sick in the head.
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It's quite telling that they're having to wheel out a sob story for him at the semi final stage, when really his singing should be doing the talking at this point of the competition.
Probably a last desperate throw of the dice from the producers to stop Chris winning. Totally cringeworthy over their |
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It's quite telling that they're having to wheel out a sob story for him at the semi final stage, when really his singing should be doing the talking at this point of the competition.
Probably a last desperate throw of the dice from the producers to stop Chris winning. Jahmene was through to the final no matter what he's never been in the bottom two he is favourite to win. This is negative propaganda. Sob stories maybe are overused but this was touching |
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It's quite telling that they're having to wheel out a sob story for him at the semi final stage, when really his singing should be doing the talking at this point of the competition.
Probably a last desperate throw of the dice from the producers to stop Chris winning. Probably not.
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I disagree, although I believe all this telling of his life story is at the instigation of production. Just to be clear, I disagree people are, "sick in the head," should they think it's Jahmene using this to get votes — to make such a judgement none of us on this forun know him personally. Do we?
![]() I've said a number of times he isn't doing it to get votes |
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I disagree, although I believe all this telling of his life story is at the instigation of production. Just to be clear, I disagree people are, "sick in the head," should they think it's Jahmene using this to get votes — to make such a judgement none of us on this forun know him personally. Do we?
![]() The production beforehand was designed to hook the viewer in to understanding why he'd sing this and what emotion to sing with, i think it was real emotion and touching, and people are just so caught up on all the other sob stories that they fail to see this was actually not the case here. |
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One direction are huge because they make good songs and look good, nothing to do with advertising. They would be nothing without the Cowell machine. |
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