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FFS not another sob story off Jahmene
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johartuk
02-12-2012
Originally Posted by factorxx:
“They influence votes sure. But if a guy has a song that he sings for a certain reason, what is the deal? The stupid sob stories is about oh my parents had a divource im devastated. Stuff like this is not even debatable.”

The deal is that 'sob stories' do influence voting. Jahmene's story will have boosted his voting figures.
ageappropriate
02-12-2012
Wow, some of the posters on here are vicious.
Eurostar
02-12-2012
Originally Posted by factorxx:
“Chris is 4/1 with 4 people left, he's not exactly huge favourite. Last desperate attempt? Come on get real.
Jahmene was through to the final no matter what he's never been in the bottom two he is favourite to win. This is negative propaganda. Sob stories maybe are overused but this was touching”

If it's true that Chris is topping the vote every week as is heavily rumoured, even at this late stage, there is a good chance my theory is correct.
plankenheimer
02-12-2012
Originally Posted by johartuk:
“The deal is that 'sob stories' do influence voting. Jahmene's story will have boosted his voting figures.”

But he hasn't done it to try and get votes .
Also he was favourite to win way before the story came out .
In fact after singing at last he was the hottest favourite in x factor history
Eurostar
02-12-2012
Originally Posted by Floh:
“But can such ploy work?

Probably not. ”

I think Chris will win, Floh. If the Daily Star rumours are correct, I can't see him losing momentum at the final hurdle.
factorxx
02-12-2012
Originally Posted by Eurostar:
“I think Chris will win, Floh. If the Daily Star rumours are correct, I can't see him losing momentum at the final hurdle.”

If they were he wouldn't be 4/1 would he. Use your loaf
plankenheimer
02-12-2012
Originally Posted by Eurostar:
“If it's true that Chris is topping the vote every week as is heavily rumoured, even at this late stage, there is a good chance my theory is correct.”

Chris hasn't topped the votes every week .
He has been near the top every week though
ageappropriate
02-12-2012
Originally Posted by plankenheimer:
“But he hasn't done it to try and get votes . ”

I don't care about his motivation. That's between him and his purity ring.

I'm just sick and tired of his sob stories. That's all, sick and tired of it.
Floh
02-12-2012
Originally Posted by plankenheimer:
“Yes I do know him personally .
I've said a number of times he isn't doing it to get votes”

Ah so. Excuse me, I don't read every (or many) posts and didn't know you know him. Why is he telling the stories, do you know?

Good luck to your man — come what may.
factorxx
02-12-2012
Originally Posted by ageappropriate:
“I don't care about his motivation. That's between him and his purity ring.

I'm just sick and tired of his sob stories. That's all, sick and tired of it.”

People sing and are inspired by lyrics due to events in their life or people in their life..

You have to differentiate
Floh
02-12-2012
Originally Posted by factorxx:
“That argument is dated. Look Jahmene doesn't need to do that to get votes. People are downplaying what the hell it was actually about. It is a major thing in his life, people sing about influences in their life always.

The production beforehand was designed to hook the viewer in to understanding why he'd sing this and what emotion to sing with, i think it was real emotion and touching, and people are just so caught up on all the other sob stories that they fail to see this was actually not the case here.”

What argument is dated? I didn't realise I was arguing anything.
ageappropriate
02-12-2012
These Jahmene apologists really are nasty pieces of work. He would be disgusted if he could read their comments.
plankenheimer
02-12-2012
Originally Posted by Floh:
“Ah so. Excuse me, I don't read every (or many) posts and didn't know you know him. Why is he telling the stories, do you know?

Good luck to your man — come what may. ”

He never wanted any story to be released .
The tabloids had the story were going to print it regardless .
Jahmene agreed to tell his story as long as the sun made a donation to women's aid .
Since the story has come he is making people aware the severity of domestic violence .
He has raised thousands of pounds for woman's aid in a short period and is also inspiring loads of people .
Only the ignorant or cynical Will think it is to gain votes
Floh
02-12-2012
Originally Posted by ageappropriate:
“Wow, some of the posters on here are vicious.”

Please list instances and posters, not make sweeping generalisations, thank you. Because I don't know what to make of your post, that is all.

For example, if I were to say, 'Some of the posters are full of heart,' would you have a clue to whom I was alluding?

I'm not saying some of the posters are full of heart, btw
factorxx
02-12-2012
Originally Posted by Floh:
“What argument is dated? I didn't realise I was arguing anything.”

''Do you know him personally'' I always see people say that as a way to prove something. You don't need to know people personally to see their character, it is very evident.
ageappropriate
02-12-2012
Originally Posted by Floh:
“Please list instances and posters, not make sweeping generalisations, thank you. Because I don't know what to make of your post, that is all.”

The Jahmene defenders are doing all they can to derail a legitimate thread about being sick of his sob stories. Their attempts at bullying is disgusting.
factorxx
02-12-2012
ageappropriate
02-12-2012
Nast, nasty, nasty.

I'm going to vote for Chris just to spite you.
Floh
02-12-2012
Originally Posted by Eurostar:
“I think Chris will win, Floh. If the Daily Star rumours are correct, I can't see him losing momentum at the final hurdle.”

I think he'll win too, Eurostar — tis destiny and a wonderful Xmas present for Mr Cowell.
abigail05
02-12-2012
Originally Posted by ageappropriate:
“I don't care about his motivation. That's between him and his purity ring.

I'm just sick and tired of his sob stories. That's all, sick and tired of it.”

To be honest, I find you a tad hypocritical. You pretty much admitted in another thread that your interest in UJ has little to do with their music or talent (not musical anyway).

They have been put together and sold to us based on a look that appeals to teenage girls. How is that better or more moral than what you perceive as sob stories from Jahmene. It should be about singing ability not selling fantasies to teen girls.

As I have said before on this forum and I need to say again -you have no right to take the higher moral ground.

I am sick and tired of untalented boybands straight off a conveyor belt every year. They get younger by the year - ID should be called a schoolboy band.
Eurostar
02-12-2012
Originally Posted by plankenheimer:
“Chris hasn't topped the votes every week .
He has been near the top every week though”

That would mean that Jahmene has been topping the poll then as it's clearly a two horse race (James Arthur has no chance of winning IMO).
ageappropriate
02-12-2012
Originally Posted by abigail05:
“As I have said before on this forum and I need to say again -you have no right to take the higher moral ground. ”

Erm, I've never attempted to take the higher ground. You however... wow, just wow.
Floh
02-12-2012
Originally Posted by plankenheimer:
“He never wanted any story to be released .
The tabloids had the story were going to print it regardless .
Jahmene agreed to tell his story as long as the sun made a donation to women's aid .
Since the story has come he is making people aware the severity of domestic violence .
He has raised thousands of pounds for woman's aid in a short period and is also inspiring loads of people .
Only the ignorant or cynical Will think it is to gain votes”

I don't necessarily agree.
Floh
02-12-2012
Originally Posted by factorxx:
“''Do you know him personally'' I always see people say that as a way to prove something. You don't need to know people personally to see their character, it is very evident.”

I disagree.
IsItThatDeep
02-12-2012
Originally Posted by abigail05:
“To be honest, I find you a tad hypocritical. You pretty much admitted in another thread that your interest in UJ has little to do with their music or talent (not musical anyway).

They have been put together and sold to us based on a look that appeals to teenage girls. How is that better or more moral than what you perceive as sob stories from Jahmene. It should be about singing ability not selling fantasies to teen girls.

As I have said before on this forum and I need to say again -you have no right to take the higher moral ground.

I am sick and tired of untalented boybands straight off a conveyor belt every year. They get younger by the year - ID should be called a schoolboy band.”


Union J are older than One Direction are now, let alone when they were on X Factor, the eldest is the same age as me and I'm way past being a school kid.
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