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Is Charlie the right winner? |
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| Yes, Charlie should have won |
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91 | 18.50% |
| No, Ashley should have won |
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310 | 63.01% |
| Didn't mind either way |
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91 | 18.50% |
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#51 |
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I voted either. They were both worthy winners.
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No, too moody for me. Ashley or Eric should have won.
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Very pleased Ashley didn't win, would have preferred David but given the final 2 am pleased it was Charlie
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No. Ashley should have won.
Not just Ashley, actually. There were other more deserving winners than Charlie such as Rosemary (in my opinion) |
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Charlie was a good winner, but any of the last few could have won. They all did well. It's just a game LOL
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They are both winner, so Ashley didn't get to sit in the silly chair or wear the daft crown while gripping a piece of wood, I'm sure she will get everything she wanted from appearing on the show |
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What a stupid poll. Of course she's the right winner, she got more votes, doh!
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What a stupid poll. Of course she's the right winner, she got more votes, doh!
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Yes - it has certainly livened up the forum
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The competition is over now so no need for hostitlity.
I was a firm Ashley fan and I could give the reasons why but the fact is that Charlie won it - now if several of the others had won (like Helen or Limahl), there'd be reason to complain. There seemed to be a genuine chemistry (friendship one) between Ashley and Charlie and it made for one of the loveliest final shows I've seen. Both women did extremely well and both deserved their place in the final (but I still with Ashley had won )
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Wanted Ashley to win and surprised that both this forum and an online voting page that i suscribe too both had Ashley as the winner by some distance??
Not surprised though, the eastenders fanbase has done this before and kept saying to the missus that Charlie would win because of that and the bring out the little daughter trick. Voting has always been to a point based on the edit of the show each night but then again Ashley did get good coverage? Oh well, another winner who was not especially exiting to watch but the producers got their winner IMO |
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I liked Ashley and wanted her to win,didn't like charlie at all.
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Wanted Ashley to win but didnt mind Charlie winning she seems a nice girl.
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I wanted Ashley to win but accept the result.
I just wish that at the end of the show she could have been given a bit more recognition for being runner up and not just shooed out of shot by Dec. A bunch of Flowers and a runner up sash to wear as she stood to the side of the throne would have been nicer. |
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I wanted Ashley to win but accept the result.
I just wish that at the end of the show she could have been given a bit more recognition for being runner up and not just shooed out of shot by Dec. A bunch of Flowers and a runner up sash to wear as she stood to the side of the throne would have been nicer. |
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Charlie did.nothing until they wheeled Kiki out.
Producers obviously got worried that they might have an American winner. Quote:
No. I don't think people should win because they are English.
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I have. Charlie Brooks is without doubt the best actress in Eastenders (and I love her character of Janine). But - what the hell has her being in Eastenders got to do with her 'performance' on this year's IAC? She was totally anonymous, a little bit bitchy (not only about Helen - although Helen deserved it more than most), and she really made a meal of 'missing out' on seeing her daughter (bearing in mind that she chose to be away from her for three weeks).
Make no mistake - Charlie owes winning this year's IAC to Kiki, Eastenders fans and the fact that the kind of people who vote in this thing are extremely jingoistic (most will be Sun readers) and won't have a 'johnny foreigner' win - EVER. Quote:
True but the voting was heavily influenced by the introduction of:
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Wanted Ashley to win and surprised that both this forum and an online voting page that i suscribe too both had Ashley as the winner by some distance??
Not surprised though, the eastenders fanbase has done this before and kept saying to the missus that Charlie would win because of that and the bring out the little daughter trick. Voting has always been to a point based on the edit of the show each night but then again Ashley did get good coverage? Oh well, another winner who was not especially exiting to watch but the producers got their winner IMO 1. I'm not British. 2. I don't watch Eastenders so was judging Charlie purely on her time in the jungle. 3. She was my firm and clear second favourite (after Hugo) from a long time before I knew she had a daughter, or what that daughter's name was. Every bit of Kiki manipulation came from the producers - not Charlie. She reacted much more calmly than I would have at losing a meeting with her child. So how do you lot ^^^^^^^^^ explain that, then? Am I the only one, do you think? Stop just posting the same thing over and over again and READ what's being said back to you. Quote:
The competition is over now so no need for hostitlity.
I was a firm Ashley fan and I could give the reasons why but the fact is that Charlie won it - now if several of the others had won (like Helen or Limahl), there'd be reason to complain. There seemed to be a genuine chemistry (friendship one) between Ashley and Charlie and it made for one of the loveliest final shows I've seen. Both women did extremely well and both deserved their place in the final (but I still with Ashley had won ) I'd have been very happy if Ashley won.edited to add: To those complaining about the British/Eastenders/Kiki issues; two questions: 1) do you think Ashley got more camera time than anyone else? and 2) Do you think being chosen to be a meddler gave all three participants an unfair advantage? |
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As I predicted, it was eric or charlie. As for this forum, check out how many members actually voted in the poll - less than 700! hardly touches the millions that vote live.
I'm glad charlie won, not an american. its a british show so more votes to the Londoner. |
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Very pleased Ashley didn't win, would have preferred David but given the final 2 am pleased it was Charlie
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My take on things...and I will state right now that there are actually serious things going on in the world that would actually matter...this is just a bit of entertainment....BUT...as much as I think Charlie is a nice person, I can't see how she could have beaten Ashley on a performance level.
I mean, Charlie did ok...she didn't back out of any challenges or situations, she seems down to earth etc etc...but Ashley just did that bit more overall. She was just that little bit nicer and funnier, she did more out of camp [ I think? ].... Considering the fact that we didn't really know who she was as an individual beforehand, she did brilliantly to get that far and as millions of people here knew Charlie, she was probably up against it right away. Did Kiki make a difference? Possibly. This wasn't the fault of Charlie of course...but my wife sat here rooting for Charlie partly because of her daughter, so I guess it might have got her votes that tipped the scale. Ashley was secretly my favourite throughout but I actually thought David or Eric were the deserving winners to be honest...but Ashley was that one step up over Charlie based on what we saw on the shows, I can't see how anyone could argue over that fact. But as we see on all these shows where the public are allowed to vote, the best doesn't always win... At the end of it though, its entertainment, I never vote because I try not to take things like this too seriously...and I would guess that most of the contestants will get more work out of it, which is what they were in there for! |
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My take on things...and I will state right now that there are actually serious things going on in the world that would actually matter...this is just a bit of entertainment....BUT...as much as I think Charlie is a nice person, I can't see how she could have beaten Ashley on a performance level.
I mean, Charlie did ok...she didn't back out of any challenges or situations, she seems down to earth etc etc...but Ashley just did that bit more overall. She was just that little bit nicer and funnier, she did more out of camp [ I think? ].... Considering the fact that we didn't really know who she was as an individual beforehand, she did brilliantly to get that far and as millions of people here knew Charlie, she was probably up against it right away. Did Kiki make a difference? Possibly. This wasn't the fault of Charlie of course...but my wife sat here rooting for Charlie partly because of her daughter, so I guess it might have got her votes that tipped the scale. Ashley was secretly my favourite throughout but I actually thought David or Eric were the deserving winners to be honest...but Ashley was that one step up over Charlie based on what we saw on the shows, I can't see how anyone could argue over that fact. But as we see on all these shows where the public are allowed to vote, the best doesn't always win... At the end of it though, its entertainment, I never vote because I try not to take things like this too seriously...and I would guess that most of the contestants will get more work out of it, which is what they were in there for! I also think that Ashley was pushed HARD by Ant and Dec and was given a huge amount of camera time, and the meddler's task - which was her 'funny' moment. I thought, on the whole, Charlie was far wittier. Finally, I don't think it was very nice of her to hang Nicole Scherzinger out to dry like that. Most people on here applauded her for it, but it struck me as quite mean spirited. |
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She's close enough.
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No, She wasn't.
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I keep making the following points - and I'm going to keep doing it until someone answers me.
1. I'm not British. 2. I don't watch Eastenders so was judging Charlie purely on her time in the jungle. 3. She was my firm and clear second favourite (after Hugo) from a long time before I knew she had a daughter, or what that daughter's name was. Every bit of Kiki manipulation came from the producers - not Charlie. She reacted much more calmly than I would have at losing a meeting with her child. So how do you lot ^^^^^^^^^ explain that, then? Am I the only one, do you think? Stop just posting the same thing over and over again and READ what's being said back to you. Well said, Eve. Lovely post. I'd have been very happy if Ashley won.edited to add: To those complaining about the British/Eastenders/Kiki issues; two questions: 1) do you think Ashley got more camera time than anyone else? and 2) Do you think being chosen to be a meddler gave all three participants an unfair advantage? |
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I wanted Ashley to win but accept the result.
I just wish that at the end of the show she could have been given a bit more recognition for being runner up and not just shooed out of shot by Dec. A bunch of Flowers and a runner up sash to wear as she stood to the side of the throne would have been nicer.
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or wear the daft crown
I'm sure she will get everything she wanted from appearing on the show