Given his miserable demeanor and total lack of charisma, or personality I wonder what kind of melody and lyrics will come from his mind. He reminds me of Alex from Fama Acadamy who was hyped to a stupid level because she was 'different', her songs were as miserable as she was.
James isn't that good a singer.
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Originally Posted by Silent Scream:
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No doubt there is deep meaningful talent at work there that we mere mortals do not understand
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No doubt there is deep meaningful talent at work there that we mere mortals do not understand
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hmmm...
you may be right...
maybe it takes the equally fabulous to comprehend and appreciate the fabulousness of a james arthur!!!
Originally Posted by Silent Scream:
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No doubt there is deep meaningful talent at work there that we mere mortals do not understand”
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No doubt there is deep meaningful talent at work there that we mere mortals do not understand
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James has been my favourite, but I have grown to like him less over the last few weeks, but this type of comment annoys me. No, you don't 'get' James - so what? You don't need to suggest that there is some kind of pretence involved with those who do like him.
The arrogance you display in suggesting that if there was something there, you wouldn't fail to notice it is amusing - it's simple, you don't appreciate his work, that's all. Others do - no need to get defensive about it.
Originally Posted by redtiger786:
“When he sings it sounds like he needs to clear his throat
I also find him arrogant and really unlikeable...”
“When he sings it sounds like he needs to clear his throat
I also find him arrogant and really unlikeable...”
Agree. For me, a good singer is someone who doesn't sound as if they're straining their vocal chords to reach each note. His performances are all a bit too raspy and shouty for my taste.
And as for him pulling faces into the camera before going on stage last night ..... I'd suggest he leave that sort of thing to Robbie Williams, he's the master of gurning and can sing too.
Originally Posted by Silent Scream:
“I don't see any of them achieving anything Vol. Melanie and Jade were phenomenal but their faces didn't fit. The whole judging panel should be ashamed of themselves.”
“I don't see any of them achieving anything Vol. Melanie and Jade were phenomenal but their faces didn't fit. The whole judging panel should be ashamed of themselves.”
I'm surprised that you are still watching this series and whinging about all the other acts after Jade left. Since every other act is crap bar Jade in your mind, why not just turn off the TV and pray to god that Jade will get signed by some record deal? And good luck.
Originally Posted by Menk:
“James has been my favourite, but I have grown to like him less over the last few weeks, but this type of comment annoys me. No, you don't 'get' James - so what? You don't need to suggest that there is some kind of pretence involved with those who do like him.
The arrogance you display in suggesting that if there was something there, you wouldn't fail to notice it is amusing - it's simple, you don't appreciate his work, that's all. Others do - no need to get defensive about it.”
“James has been my favourite, but I have grown to like him less over the last few weeks, but this type of comment annoys me. No, you don't 'get' James - so what? You don't need to suggest that there is some kind of pretence involved with those who do like him.
The arrogance you display in suggesting that if there was something there, you wouldn't fail to notice it is amusing - it's simple, you don't appreciate his work, that's all. Others do - no need to get defensive about it.”
The poster obviously thinks that Jade has some god's given gift that US Mere Mortals also do not understand.
Good point from Eurostar - why hasnt he sang his own songs? Lucy showed she was a good writer with the happy-sounding-but-sad Tea and Toast, which I thought was clever 
Maybe she could have duetted with James on that
Even Ella sang her own song in the audition - why not James?
Maybe she could have duetted with James on that Even Ella sang her own song in the audition - why not James?
its hard enough trying to make out the words james is singing and thats with known songs, if he sang his own song i think the subtitles will be needed.
Originally Posted by Eurostar:
“Again, it's a very good point. They're making a big song and dance about how he "deserves" to win the show because of his fantastic talent and how he will have hit albums, and yet strangely, none of his compostions are being showcased on the main show : are they secretly afraid his own songs would see him voted off in a flash?”
“Again, it's a very good point. They're making a big song and dance about how he "deserves" to win the show because of his fantastic talent and how he will have hit albums, and yet strangely, none of his compostions are being showcased on the main show : are they secretly afraid his own songs would see him voted off in a flash?”
I think it's a big gamble to start singing your own songs this late in the show. The only one who has consistently done it is Lucy and that went down like lead balloons on here.
He's a marmite singer alright but there are some world class performers who you could categorise as that. Not suggesting JA has world class potential but there are many in the business who are predicting good things for him. I think this thread and others demonstrates a Digital Spy penchant for knocking something slightly different. If it isn't mainstream some people get uncomfortable.
That said I think he will be eliminated tonight. That won't be a reflection on his talent which is certainly not the worst of the four who are left but more a reflection of what X Factor voters want. And it's usually safe and mediocre.
Originally Posted by natboosh69:
“I love his voice personally, it's not the most powerful like Jahmene or Chris but there's just something about the tone that gives me goosebumps. It's personal preference, if you don't like him then don't vote or buy his records - simple!”
“I love his voice personally, it's not the most powerful like Jahmene or Chris but there's just something about the tone that gives me goosebumps. It's personal preference, if you don't like him then don't vote or buy his records - simple!”
I agree - I think the problem with Xfactor is nowadays Chris and Jahmene would get through and Bob Dylan and Rod Stewart would get voted off lol
Originally Posted by Department_S:
“I think it's a big gamble to start singing your own songs this late in the show. The only one who has consistently done it is Lucy and that went down like lead balloons on here.
He's a marmite singer alright but there are some world class performers who you could categorise as that. Not suggesting JA has world class potential but there are many in the business who are predicting good things for him. I think this thread and others demonstrates a Digital Spy penchant for knocking something slightly different. If it isn't mainstream some people get uncomfortable.
That said I think he will be eliminated tonight. That won't be a reflection on his talent which is certainly not the worst of the four who are left but more a reflection of what X Factor voters want. And it's usually safe and mediocre.”
“I think it's a big gamble to start singing your own songs this late in the show. The only one who has consistently done it is Lucy and that went down like lead balloons on here.
He's a marmite singer alright but there are some world class performers who you could categorise as that. Not suggesting JA has world class potential but there are many in the business who are predicting good things for him. I think this thread and others demonstrates a Digital Spy penchant for knocking something slightly different. If it isn't mainstream some people get uncomfortable.
That said I think he will be eliminated tonight. That won't be a reflection on his talent which is certainly not the worst of the four who are left but more a reflection of what X Factor voters want. And it's usually safe and mediocre.”
Totally agree with this. He isn't my cup of tea and I can't see me buying any of his music but he is certainly the most interesting act ever in XF imo.
He isn't a great singer but that doesn't matter because of his style. But then a lot of the best artists out there are not fantastic singers. It's more than that with James.
But, you're right, the Saturday evening audience tends to demand safe, bland and mediocre and then never buy their music afterwards. James will do well if he doesn't win and you can't say the same for some of the other acts left.
Originally Posted by Getridofcole:
“Regarding whether someones got talent ,just because you don't get it doesn't mean it's not there”
“Regarding whether someones got talent ,just because you don't get it doesn't mean it's not there”
Equally, just because you think it's there doesn't mean it is.
I agree that he is not a great singer, he mumbles which causes his dictation to be very poor and it does have a tendency to make him sound like he is just making a noise rather than singing. But in today's manufactured music market he will most likely do well.
Originally Posted by Since Yesterday:
“The lad has a terrible voice. They rate him for things my ears can't hear and my eyes can't see. He's a Magic Art picture, hanging on the wall in a dog whistle factory.”
“The lad has a terrible voice. They rate him for things my ears can't hear and my eyes can't see. He's a Magic Art picture, hanging on the wall in a dog whistle factory.”
What a lovely analogy.
Originally Posted by Blondie X:
“Totally agree with this. He isn't my cup of tea and I can't see me buying any of his music but he is certainly the most interesting act ever in XF imo.
He isn't a great singer but that doesn't matter because of his style. But then a lot of the best artists out there are not fantastic singers. It's more than that with James.
But, you're right, the Saturday evening audience tends to demand safe, bland and mediocre and then never buy their music afterwards. James will do well if he doesn't win and you can't say the same for some of the other acts left.”
“Totally agree with this. He isn't my cup of tea and I can't see me buying any of his music but he is certainly the most interesting act ever in XF imo.
He isn't a great singer but that doesn't matter because of his style. But then a lot of the best artists out there are not fantastic singers. It's more than that with James.
But, you're right, the Saturday evening audience tends to demand safe, bland and mediocre and then never buy their music afterwards. James will do well if he doesn't win and you can't say the same for some of the other acts left.”
Here we go again with the generalisations. Once you say you don't like James you get accused of liking the bland. Maybe people just don't like James. I know that might sound like a new concept but its not that people don't get him, it's just that people don't need to get it.
Perhaps is best to allow people their taste. I allow you yours even if it is insane to like James Arthur creator if the noises that call for Armageddon. I have nothing against you or anyone saying h is great but I won't be generalised into someone who doesn't like music because of personal taste.
Originally Posted by grimtales1:
“Good point from Eurostar - why hasnt he sang his own songs? Lucy showed she was a good writer with the happy-sounding-but-sad Tea and Toast, which I thought was clever Maybe she could have duetted with James on that
Even Ella sang her own song in the audition - why not James?”
“Good point from Eurostar - why hasnt he sang his own songs? Lucy showed she was a good writer with the happy-sounding-but-sad Tea and Toast, which I thought was clever
Maybe she could have duetted with James on that Even Ella sang her own song in the audition - why not James?”
Writing your own songs is easy. Writing good songs isn't. If his material is shit, why would they let him embarrass himself and the show? This guy is a charlatan and worse, a recently manufactured charlatan. That's why not enough people are fooled.
If X Factor was technically JUST about the voice and nothing more.......the final would be between Christopher and Jahmene with 3rd place going to union J.
Im just being honest which most people don't do on here.
Christopher is dated and old fashioned and his personality is not great either, he lacks charisma but vocally he is one of the better ones in the show.
Jahmene is also good vocally but still needs to learn control and stop over complicating every song, simple is more with Jahmene.
Union J has one strong singer who leads the pack but others are a waste of time.
If judging James just on his vocal, he is the weakest left
Im just being honest which most people don't do on here.
Christopher is dated and old fashioned and his personality is not great either, he lacks charisma but vocally he is one of the better ones in the show.
Jahmene is also good vocally but still needs to learn control and stop over complicating every song, simple is more with Jahmene.
Union J has one strong singer who leads the pack but others are a waste of time.
If judging James just on his vocal, he is the weakest left
Originally Posted by rbdcay:
“Here we go again with the generalisations. Once you say you don't like James you get accused of liking the bland. Maybe people just don't like James. I know that might sound like a new concept but its not that people don't get him, it's just that people don't need to get it.
Perhaps is best to allow people their taste. I allow you yours even if it is insane to like James Arthur creator if the noises that call for Armageddon. I have nothing against you or anyone saying h is great but I won't be generalised into someone who doesn't like music because of personal taste.”
“Here we go again with the generalisations. Once you say you don't like James you get accused of liking the bland. Maybe people just don't like James. I know that might sound like a new concept but its not that people don't get him, it's just that people don't need to get it.
Perhaps is best to allow people their taste. I allow you yours even if it is insane to like James Arthur creator if the noises that call for Armageddon. I have nothing against you or anyone saying h is great but I won't be generalised into someone who doesn't like music because of personal taste.”
And where have I said I actually like him? I've said he isn't my cup of tea and that I would never buy anything he released but don't let actual facts get in the way of your rant eh
His voice is generic. And he's so miserable I feel the life force physically draining out of me when he speaks.
He's only there because he's so, like, totes EMOTIONAL and RAW and TOTALLY FRICKIN' INTO IT and... stuff.
He's only there because he's so, like, totes EMOTIONAL and RAW and TOTALLY FRICKIN' INTO IT and... stuff.
Originally Posted by Blondie X:
“And where have I said I actually like him? I've said he isn't my cup of tea and that I would never buy anything he released but don't let actual facts get in the way of your rant eh”
“And where have I said I actually like him? I've said he isn't my cup of tea and that I would never buy anything he released but don't let actual facts get in the way of your rant eh”
Thank you I will rant away. I was just picking up on your point about x- factor viewers which was in agreement with a person who likes James. My comment was general and not specific. Perhaps read the you as a plural you rather than specific.
Syco will change James, his whole style will be lost, his teeth will be fixed, his angst will be completely deleted and he will be turned more pop to appeal to a more generic market, by then all you will have left is a really average at best singer and thats it
Originally Posted by tuppencehapenny:
“Equally, just because you think it's there doesn't mean it is.”
“Equally, just because you think it's there doesn't mean it is.”
That is a weird comment with all respect. Talent spotting is subjective. If a lot of people, many professional, say he is talented he clearly has talent to demonstrate it to the right people. I think we accept he's not liked by some folk but to repeat the earlier comment to say he hasn't got talent is a subjective view and not fact.
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