Oh Yes!!

Cover blown!!

I quite liked some of the album Aiden released - Is This Love could have been a big track if he'd had a better base to push it from - but on the show I thought he was average at best, I never expected him to be anything other than an also-ran.

Besides intensity, I don't think they're strikingly similar, it's just that people are so unused to those sorts of acts on the show that they kind of get lumped together.

humm so no fans of other acts acts are allowed opinion is that what you are trying to say?
there are lots of peeps who comment on this forum..who all have their own agenda
are you saying yours is more valid than mine?

Sorry you've lost me. Don't really know what you're on about.

What opinion? What comments? What agenda?

ETA: My comment was in reference to you asking if I was a Syco employee.

yep that was I was asking you?? in reference to the janes arther/aiden debate
I dont see why you have to bring my personnal preferance into the debate ..it was a valid question??

[quote=outof thepark;62714168]yep that was I was asking you?? in reference to the janes arther/aiden debate
I dont see why you have to bring my personnal preferance into the debate ..[b]it was a valid question??[quote]


Was it??

I made a comment about James Arthur, and you asked if I was a Syco employee?? How is that a valid question?

Don't understand where this is going, so I'm just going to walk away.

[quote=String9;62714212][quote=outof thepark;62714168]yep that was I was asking you?? in reference to the janes arther/aiden debate
I dont see why you have to bring my personnal preferance into the debate ..[b]it was a valid question??
great thats cool ..but next time dont bring matt cardle into the debate because it was irrelevent to the subject we were discussing

The only thing they have in common is that they are seen as "intense." When I first saw James, I thought it was like Aiden all over again (who I liked on the show, by the way). It turns out that Aiden is more appealing, James is more talented, but musically, they have very very little in common. James is lucky that Nicole is his mentor; Aiden had Dannii who practically did a hatchet job on her other boys so Matt would win.

Aidan is good, but not a patch on James' immense musical talent.

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I don't think you are being entirely fair here. I have just read all the posts and String didn't bring Matt into the debate but Matt Cardle fans which you all are.......How could a light hearted joke go so wrong

Re james and Aiden.

I feel like it is the emperoro with no clothes because every week I try to see what others are seeing in james and I don't get it. I get he is musically gifted and passionate but I am not getting goosebumps or a wow moment.

I often wonder if Aiden would have done better waiting a few years before going on X factor. He was/ is very gifted musically but I don't think he had found his style on X factor and some of the awful song choices didn't help. It's a shame his album didn't do as well as it could have done but hopefully he can build onthis and progress his career.

aiden has been forgoten about now, he was overrated and has under 500k followers on twitter even though hes had the account for 2 years and his series was much more populer, james has over 800k even tho he just had the account this year and the ratings and media buzz is alot lower..

I prefer James and think he's a much better singer and more talented. I really liked Aiden too but he did occasionally have the tendency to go out of tune, whereas James is very consistent with his performances and song choices.

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Pardon? Check out your friend's comment at 0124 - Seriously, Lolz at the Cardle fans. Keep digging. Courtesy String9.

I don't see many similarities to be honest, I like both.

I don't think they're all that similar to be honest, Aiden and James are both intense performers but I think James has a sort of soulful edge to his voice whereas Aiden was all about the dark, gritty, indie pop/rock. Aiden is a great performer but I think James is probably slightly better only because I feel like he's slightly more versatile.

You ain't kidding.

Aiden wasn't bad i liked him. But he is not on this guys level. Not even one iota.

The key to getting and likes James

1st step.

Take away all false strong opinions/views.

2. Listen to him without looking, begin to realize he has a great voice a unique tone and a very listenable voice too.

3. realize he's a nice guy

4. listen to him again this time watch him

5. you are now a fan of james arthur

i still love the intense look on Aiden's face when he did mad world!

I'm sorry, but why exactly is Aiden not on James Arthur's level? I genuinely don't understand this statement. What does James Arthur have that Aiden didn't? A unique tone to his voice? Aiden had that. Being a nice guy? Aiden is a lovely guy too. What other reasons do you have?

James Arthur is fine. I don't mind him at all. But to say he's on a whole other level to Aiden is mystifying to me. James is doing exactly what Aiden did two years ago - bringing intensity to pop songs, putting his own unique spin on them, coming across as slightly aloof and awkward - and the only reasons, IMO, he has got so far is he's in a much weaker year, with much lower viewing figures, singing in a style that is much more popular than it was when Aiden entered. If he had been there instead of Aiden in Aiden's year, I'm fairly certain he'd have gone at exactly the same time Aiden went. He wouldn't have been Simon Cowell's favourite like he is this year, because 1D and Cher would always have been the focus, and he doesn't have an interesting enough 'character' to ensure he'd have been kept in over Katie.

I've said it before on here and I'll say it again: when James finishes XF and the tour, and IF he produces an album as gutsy and as accomplished as Misty Eye, I will have the utmost respect for him for sticking by his values and 'walking the walk' as it were. At the moment, though, all I get from him is someone who is happy to take the 'credible', 'authentic' praise he's being given with no real basis for it yet. That isn't to say he WON'T do it, because I honestly have no idea, but the pictures of him stumbling out of clubs and into taxis with rough looking girls kind of implies that he's going to enjoy the celebrity aspect to it too. Compare that with Aiden who went away after the tour, kept his head down and got on with recording an album way beyond his years (sometimes I think people forget that Aiden was only 18 when he did the show, and is only just 21 now) and you can see why I'm a bit bemused that anybody would think of James as the real deal when Aiden practically paved the way for the type of act that James is.

Excellent post Elly, I totally totally agree. Especially the bib, James seem to believe the hype around him and the lines that Barlow and co are feeding him that he is very credible and seems to act like a star already having done absolutely nothing to earn that right!....and yes the pics of him with rought looking birds doesnt exactly do a lot for his credible 'i'm in this for the music' image...

If you have no appreciation for artists like David Bowie, Morissey, Adam Ant, Marilyn Manson, The Cure, Bauhaus etc then im sure you won't get it because you can apply your "logic" to every singe one of those acts and it's blown out of the water at every turn.

FYI, your third law of what makes a good singer is completely nonsensical.

I'm not going to read all that.

But simply put James has a better voice, a better range, a far more superior musician, much more versatile, stage presence not even close, he's in another league all round, i cannot think of anything Aiden has over James.

Aiden is smalltime, decent guy, unique in his own quirkish weird way, but overall not got the ability to make proper hits or have true success as a musician, He's limited in that his qualities are not vast. There isn't much James cannot do. Aiden like i said he was likeable i liked him but to think he is half as good as this guy is just not true simply put.

Aiden wasn't even top 3 in his year in terms of talent. James is head and shoulders above everyone else.

The fact Aiden has had no success to note of since the x factor says enough. James will undoubtedly be very successful whatever happens from here on in.

Exactly the point. I hate some style of music but i can appreciate people are good whether i like it or not. It seems some people struggle to do this.

pretentious is a bizarre word to use. Aiden definitely was not pretentious. I am sure people on this forum use words without really knowing what they mean.

Its quite rude and dismissive to say you arent going to read another posters well thought out and articulate reply to one of your posts.

Your posts are seriously losing credibility as you are saying the same thing over and over and over again, defending James in an OTT way , and refusing to note any critisisms of him, and being extrmely dismissive to those who dont hail James as the next savior of British music!

I suspect that most people who like James also liked Aiden.

Just cos Aiden got screwed over by XF is no good reason to dis James.

If you dont like James, fine, but not liking him cos you think Aiden was better!

Makes no sense at all IMHO.

Aiden was like Mr Jelly when he performed.

He was literally wetting himself whenever he performed.

Most of his performances were dreadful & I never understood the praise he received.

James Arthur is far superior IMO.