Originally Posted by MACTOWIN:
“IMO if Ashley was Brittish she would have won by a mile.”
“IMO if Ashley was Brittish she would have won by a mile.”
correct
The Real reason Charlie Won
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Originally Posted by doctorwhofancal:
“I think a reason Charlie won aswell is because of Eastenders, most of the Enders fans would have voted for her!”
“I think a reason Charlie won aswell is because of Eastenders, most of the Enders fans would have voted for her!”
As opposed to loads of males voting for Ashley because she is supposedly 'hot'?
Originally Posted by yellowlabbie:
“As opposed to loads of males voting for Ashley because she is supposedly 'hot'?”
“As opposed to loads of males voting for Ashley because she is supposedly 'hot'?”
They all must have been hot in that jungle
Originally Posted by yellowlabbie:
“As opposed to loads of males voting for Ashley because she is supposedly 'hot'?”
“As opposed to loads of males voting for Ashley because she is supposedly 'hot'?”
there is no 'supposedly' about it - she is so hot she is steaming
cool down boy
Originally Posted by James Frederick:
“They all must have been hot in that jungle”
“They all must have been hot in that jungle”
Yes, indeed, smarty pants
Originally Posted by Andybear:
“Going by that logic, if Eastenders fans were voting for Charlie then surely Corrie fans were voting for Helen? But Helen went out quite early on.”
“Going by that logic, if Eastenders fans were voting for Charlie then surely Corrie fans were voting for Helen? But Helen went out quite early on.”
but she is no longer in corrie,she left to make her fortune.
Originally Posted by fredster:
“but she is no longer in corrie,she left to make her fortune.”
“but she is no longer in corrie,she left to make her fortune.”
And she will go crawling back within 2 years pretending she loves the fact she is back TBH I wouldn't be to shocked to see her back by this time next year.
Originally Posted by Maria_Robinson:
“I have to say that everyone I know that watches did not want an American to win and I think that went for most viewers. I think Charlie was a poor substitute though. David woz robbed!”
“I have to say that everyone I know that watches did not want an American to win and I think that went for most viewers. I think Charlie was a poor substitute though. David woz robbed!”
And I have to say that everyone I knew who watched it, wanted Ashley to win. The fact that her being an American wasn't even a factor or even mentioned.
Originally Posted by Daewos:
“This. Why are people so desperate to try and explain away the fact that Charlie won? The idea that people were sitting there saying to each other how much they liked Ashley more than Charlie but were voting for Charlie because she is British is frankly ridiculous.”
“This. Why are people so desperate to try and explain away the fact that Charlie won? The idea that people were sitting there saying to each other how much they liked Ashley more than Charlie but were voting for Charlie because she is British is frankly ridiculous.”
It's just sour grapes. Course logically if that was the case then Ashley wouldn't have got to the final.... in fact she'd have been voted out before David. I like both Ashley and Charlie but I was starting to get sick of all the 'Ashley is perfect' stuff. Yea, shes nice but no nicer than Charlie.
I actually think what bumped Charlies votes was her doing the eating trial. She had a much harder time of it than Ashley, physically shaking, but she finished it all. They were both great but Charlie was amazing.
Originally Posted by gemmy11:
“She won because she is british thats all, people voted for her to make sure an american could not take the title. Ashley was far more enteraining and a much nicer person she should of won.”
“She won because she is british thats all, people voted for her to make sure an american could not take the title. Ashley was far more enteraining and a much nicer person she should of won.”
The vast majority of people simply don't vote because of nationality. Once they have watched a series they vote based on personality and their perception of the interactions that have taken place.
Your comment shows your bitterness at having your preferred candidate beaten to second place and displays a fundamental misunderstanding of what motivates people in general.
Double fail.
Originally Posted by linnylou:
“And I have to say that everyone I knew who watched it, wanted Ashley to win. The fact that her being an American wasn't even a factor or even mentioned.”
“And I have to say that everyone I knew who watched it, wanted Ashley to win. The fact that her being an American wasn't even a factor or even mentioned.”
I knew people who liked Ashley but not as a winner. The main criticisms were that she was not considerate, liked the sound of her own voice ( she even talked all the way through Charlie's final interview ) and was a bit too flirty. Nothing to do with her nationality.
Amoung my friends David, Charlie, Hugo and Colin were the favourites.
Originally Posted by MACTOWIN:
“IMO if Ashley was Brittish she would have won by a mile.”
“IMO if Ashley was Brittish she would have won by a mile.”
but she aint british and she didnt win GET OVER IT
Originally Posted by vald:
“I knew people who liked Ashley but not as a winner. The main criticisms were that she was not considerate, liked the sound of her own voice ( she even talked all the way through Charlie's final interview ) and was a bit too flirty. Nothing to do with her nationality.
Amoung my friends David, Charlie, Hugo and Colin were the favourites.”
“I knew people who liked Ashley but not as a winner. The main criticisms were that she was not considerate, liked the sound of her own voice ( she even talked all the way through Charlie's final interview ) and was a bit too flirty. Nothing to do with her nationality.
Amoung my friends David, Charlie, Hugo and Colin were the favourites.”
A rare glimpse into life outside of the planet DS
All of these observations are true, for me. I preferred Charlie from the start - apparently because I'm jellus innit 
Originally Posted by dagger42:
“She got the most votes.
.We can all have opinions as to why the person should have one or not and come up with conspiricy theories,but this is the reason she won same as every other winner.”
“She got the most votes.
.We can all have opinions as to why the person should have one or not and come up with conspiricy theories,but this is the reason she won same as every other winner.”
Can't argue with that.
But I bet some idiots will !!!!!!!!!!!!!!
According to the press even the other celebs say it was the Kiki factor that won it for Charlie, hell even Charlie herself says Kiki won it for her
I see Iceland in the future
I see Iceland in the future
I liked Hugo, David and Charlie more than Ashley. I don't see how Ashely would have been such an obvious winner had she been British, it's not like she was the most entertaining contestant ever.
Originally Posted by slappers r us:
“
I see Iceland in the future”
“
I see Iceland in the future”
"That's why mums .... and little princesses .... go to Iceland"
Originally Posted by gemmy11:
“She won because she is british thats all, people voted for her to make sure an american could not take the title. Ashley was far more enteraining and a much nicer person she should of won.”
“She won because she is british thats all, people voted for her to make sure an american could not take the title. Ashley was far more enteraining and a much nicer person she should of won.”
I think Charlie was a little nicer and more entertaining, your opinion is yours and mine is mine.
More people who voted shared my opinion than yours.
it doesn't make me right or you wrong. It just means people have varying tastes.
I wouldnt be on here making comments to undermine Ash if she had won, I thought she was great and would have been quite happy for her to win.
So what does that reveal?
Originally Posted by Kabradoon:
“ITV didn't want American winner as the Xenophobes would go mental.”
“ITV didn't want American winner as the Xenophobes would go mental.”
If a person didn't want someone to win because they were British would that be xenophobia?
And can you give an intelligent rational explanation why ITV would mind who came out with the most votes?
Originally Posted by rkid:
“Correct, end of debate!”
“Correct, end of debate!”
I don't think that one individual post actually qualifies as a debate.
Originally Posted by Damanda:
“If a person didn't want someone to win because they were British would that be xenophobia?
And can you give an intelligent rational explanation why ITV would mind who came out with the most votes?”
“If a person didn't want someone to win because they were British would that be xenophobia?
And can you give an intelligent rational explanation why ITV would mind who came out with the most votes?”
I'm not one for making excuses.
Originally Posted by yellowlabbie:
“As opposed to loads of males voting for Ashley because she is supposedly 'hot'?”
“As opposed to loads of males voting for Ashley because she is supposedly 'hot'?”
Ashley is an attractive woman, however it's not why myself and certainly not why Mrs Fizix got behind her. We got behind her because she surprised us, she came across really well and actually represented the American people we know really accurately. We work with a lot of American companies quite closely so have spent a lot of time in the US and have a lot of American colleagues and friends to draw our conclusions from.
American people who find their way onto British TV are normally completely alien to how we've found Americans to actually be. It was nice to see someone who was actually familiar to our experiences of a countries people.
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