Lisa must go
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Originally Posted by icequeen:
“I have several issues with Lisa, however my main one is that she believes that she is an excellent dancer. I cant believe that someone who is awful like her is going to end up winning, and its all because the judges have no balls. No one mentions her weight, her gurning etc. She really does believe that she is excellent......its sad.....”
“I have several issues with Lisa, however my main one is that she believes that she is an excellent dancer. I cant believe that someone who is awful like her is going to end up winning, and its all because the judges have no balls. No one mentions her weight, her gurning etc. She really does believe that she is excellent......its sad.....”
I can't recall anywhere where I've seen her state or even imply that she thinks she is an "excellent dancer". And no one needs to mention her weight or her gurning. The judges simply need to mention her shoddy footwork, her poor posture, her blatant errors, her gapping when in hold etc etc. And mark her accordingly. Last night's QS was a car crash.
Originally Posted by alimyler:
“Why just single her out and not Michael and Nicky who are not as good either?”
“Why just single her out and not Michael and Nicky who are not as good either?”
Because Michael has improved leaps and bounds in ballroom to the point where he is one of the best ballroom dancers this year (in comparison to previous years that's not saying much, but still), and his Latin is now improved from the horror that was his jive. Natalie has worked miracles.
I don't like Nicky, but even I will admit that he's better than where he was at the start of the competition. He was overmarked for the Charleston but it wasn't awful, and his AT wasn't a disaster when it could easily have been. I don't rate Karen at all, but clearly some of what she's teaching him is sticking as even his posture isn't as awful as it used to be (it's still not good though).
Lisa, on the other hand, hasn't improved at all since week 1. I thought her cha cha was overrated and she's been overmarked ever since. There wasn't a shred of decent ballroom technique in her Quickstep - she was doing the steps in the right order and that's about it. There were timing issues, no heel leads, no energy in her kicks and the end was just embarassingly out of sync. Plus for an actress she hasn't acted any of the dances so far, she just plasters the same smirk on her face each week and that's just as bad as Louis' non-performance.
Plenty of reason to single her out.
Originally Posted by StigOfTheKrump:
“Lisa is probably one of the most disliked contestants on here for a while, but the reasons for disliking her just aren't valid.”
“Lisa is probably one of the most disliked contestants on here for a while, but the reasons for disliking her just aren't valid.”
What, the reason that she hasn't improved technically at all since week 1 (and that's where the 'same' criticism comes from - it's the same level of bad dancing, as well as some very similar choreography by Robin in all of the Latin dances) isn't a valid one? I thought I was watching a show that was to some extent about dancing!
Originally Posted by StigOfTheKrump:
“Let me get this straight - she was worse than Michael who couldn't even move half of his body in time to the music and also her professional dancer partner Robin was 'dire' too, was he?”
“Let me get this straight - she was worse than Michael who couldn't even move half of his body in time to the music and also her professional dancer partner Robin was 'dire' too, was he?”
Overall she's worse than Michael, yes, and you say he couldn't move his body in time - neither could she, her leg extensions and kicks were so laboured and the end was completely out of time. And yes, Robin was woeful last night too, I don't rate his dancing or choreography at all.
Originally Posted by poshtamfan:
“I fear Lisa is heading for the final. If she wins this I don't think I will ever watch Strictly again. I don't mind my favourite being criticised or voted off if deserved but if someone gets to the final who has faults and mistakes that are ignored or made light of I will be furious. Yes it is an entertainment show but it is also supposed to be a dance show.”
“I fear Lisa is heading for the final. If she wins this I don't think I will ever watch Strictly again. I don't mind my favourite being criticised or voted off if deserved but if someone gets to the final who has faults and mistakes that are ignored or made light of I will be furious. Yes it is an entertainment show but it is also supposed to be a dance show.”
I agree with all of that - if she wins, it'll be a joke, and whether or not I watch next year or not will depend hugely on who takes part - that's 3 years in a row that one contestant has almost ruined my enjoyment of the show. The difference being that in the two years previously, I've had a favourite contestant (or 3, in the case of the 3 finalists the year Kara won) who has redeemed the show for me. That's not the case this year.
Originally Posted by hansue:
“Lisa starts in panto at The Kings Theatre in Portsmouth on 12th December so I think she expected to be out of the competition before then.
I wonder what she will do if she gets through next weekend cause Saturdays are the most popular days for panto and, as she has a leading role, I cant see the producers being very happy with her not being there.
Perhaps it will be best all round if she goes this Saturday.”
“Lisa starts in panto at The Kings Theatre in Portsmouth on 12th December so I think she expected to be out of the competition before then.
I wonder what she will do if she gets through next weekend cause Saturdays are the most popular days for panto and, as she has a leading role, I cant see the producers being very happy with her not being there.
Perhaps it will be best all round if she goes this Saturday.”
I fervently hope the panto producers insist she does the Saturday shows.
Originally Posted by Gordon Clown:
“People insult Lisa on this board because they are worried she might get to the final Every insulting post makes me vote more for Lisa.”
“People insult Lisa on this board because they are worried she might get to the final
Every insulting post makes me vote more for Lisa.”
Me too, I will be very surprised if Lisa leaves tonight.
In my opinion, Lisa should be in the bottom two tonight for sure.
I thought her quick step was pretty bad, and she was over-marked again. She is one of the worst dancers left in the competition, so why are so many people on here defending her to the hilt?
I thought her quick step was pretty bad, and she was over-marked again. She is one of the worst dancers left in the competition, so why are so many people on here defending her to the hilt?
Originally Posted by Gordon Clown:
“Queen Lisa will get to the final
She is the most fun to watch and I love her and Robin's partnership.
Hopefully Louis to leave next week”
“Queen Lisa will get to the final
She is the most fun to watch and I love her and Robin's partnership.
Hopefully Louis to leave next week
”
Thanks TerryM22,.
Originally Posted by frumpymummy:
“I voted to evict her 15 times last night”
“I voted to evict her 15 times last night”
You do realise it's a vote to save, not evict?
Originally Posted by Walter Neff:
“Me too, I will be very surprised if Lisa leaves tonight.”
“Me too, I will be very surprised if Lisa leaves tonight.
”
So will I Lisa deserves to stay.
Originally Posted by dekaf:
“In my opinion, Lisa should be in the bottom two tonight for sure.
I thought her quick step was pretty bad, and she was over-marked again. She is one of the worst dancers left in the competition, so why are so many people on here defending her to the hilt?”
“In my opinion, Lisa should be in the bottom two tonight for sure.
I thought her quick step was pretty bad, and she was over-marked again. She is one of the worst dancers left in the competition, so why are so many people on here defending her to the hilt?”
Because apparently she is full of fun, energy and bubbly entertainment,
rotten dancer and IMO full of herself, but as I always say, we all can't like the same people and she does have her fans.
Its funny with Lisa and Robin, clearly there are better dancers in the competition but despite this I always look forward to seeing their routine more than I do most of the others. The GBP clearly loves her and I wouldn't be surprised to see her and Robin dance all the way to the final!
Originally Posted by CravenHaven:
“I don't see any jays in my garden, are you especially privileged? And Lisa is a protected species. The lesser spotted fattee.”
“I don't see any jays in my garden, are you especially privileged? And Lisa is a protected species. The lesser spotted fattee.”
Wow, brave of you. I have been too scared ot mention that word. But that was her problem with the QS.
Originally Posted by dekaf:
“In my opinion, Lisa should be in the bottom two tonight for sure.
I thought her quick step was pretty bad, and she was over-marked again. She is one of the worst dancers left in the competition, so why are so many people on here defending her to the hilt?”
“In my opinion, Lisa should be in the bottom two tonight for sure.
I thought her quick step was pretty bad, and she was over-marked again. She is one of the worst dancers left in the competition, so why are so many people on here defending her to the hilt?”
Maybe there are a few people out there similar in size with a lot less go-get and I-don't-care-about-my-size. Are they living their dream through her?
Originally Posted by Jayinthegarden:
“Surely Lisa's time is well up? She does the same moves and pulls the same hideously gurning faces week after week. The judges often say to celebs things like " you are tall / short, and this dance doesn't suit you" but never say "you are big etc etc " to her, why not? She makes no secret of her size ( well she couldn't really, could she? )
She is consistently overmarked and I think it is patronising to her to keep her in because she is energised and fun - it's a dance competition ( at least in part ) and her steps and timing are sometimes woeful. Lisa must go”
“Surely Lisa's time is well up? She does the same moves and pulls the same hideously gurning faces week after week. The judges often say to celebs things like " you are tall / short, and this dance doesn't suit you" but never say "you are big etc etc " to her, why not? She makes no secret of her size ( well she couldn't really, could she? )
She is consistently overmarked and I think it is patronising to her to keep her in because she is energised and fun - it's a dance competition ( at least in part ) and her steps and timing are sometimes woeful. Lisa must go”
NO MICHAEL'S time is up. he has been in the dance of at least 3 times now. he has to go this week. LISA will IMO get down to the quarter final. she is not a bad dancer..
Originally Posted by olivej:
“Lisa will be in the final because the judges want her there
Her blatent over-marking was even more obvious last night in a quickstep riddled with timing issues and bad footwork
Once again, all of the judges turned a blind eye and gave her great comments and scores
and NO, I dont hate Lisa at all - she is fun and she is giving it her all BUT the judges are favouring her (yes, its not her fault that the judges are doing that) but its clear to me that she is wanted in the final and they judges will do whatever they can to get her there
She was boarding on terrible last night in her quickstep and the more she is heaped with praise and her mistakes NOT pointed out the better she will think she is
She hasnt improved AT ALL since her first dance, her technical side is still non existent and still she is bigged up by the judges and overmarked, week after week - its getting tiresome”
“Lisa will be in the final because the judges want her there
Her blatent over-marking was even more obvious last night in a quickstep riddled with timing issues and bad footwork
Once again, all of the judges turned a blind eye and gave her great comments and scores
and NO, I dont hate Lisa at all - she is fun and she is giving it her all BUT the judges are favouring her (yes, its not her fault that the judges are doing that) but its clear to me that she is wanted in the final and they judges will do whatever they can to get her there
She was boarding on terrible last night in her quickstep and the more she is heaped with praise and her mistakes NOT pointed out the better she will think she is
She hasnt improved AT ALL since her first dance, her technical side is still non existent and still she is bigged up by the judges and overmarked, week after week - its getting tiresome”
My thoughts exactly. She was appalling last night. If she had been Widdie, she'd have been sliced and diced. But because she is the chosen one for the final, the judges tiptoe. I also think she is amazingly popular with the outside public (my work, indeed are on the "she's doing it for us fatties" mantra. That's all I hear. Regardless of dance ability, she is supposedly representing the larger gals...) I have no doubt she will be in the final. I don't mind her personally but her dancing and the happy/clappy routines don't work anymore.
Originally Posted by Scarlett Berry:
“Ain't that the truth. Shameful display of favouritism by the judges, especially Craig.
”
“Ain't that the truth. Shameful display of favouritism by the judges, especially Craig.
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It's about time they criticised her dancing the way they do to the others. The only criticism Lisa seems to get is " Oh that didn't suit you "..
I thought she was awful last night and was so out of 'sync' many times with Robin and it didn't get a mention
Apart from kind, civil Darcey, the judges have been brutal in pointing out the limitations of aged celebs, for example Johnny Ball. However they have been cagey and wary of antagonising Lisa,
I think this is because the worldlywise trio are afraid of Lisa climbing onto the judges table then divebombing and crushing them .
I think this is because the worldlywise trio are afraid of Lisa climbing onto the judges table then divebombing and crushing them
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Originally Posted by soulmate61:
“Apart from kind, civil Darcey, the judges have been brutal in pointing out the limitations of aged celebs, for example Johnny Ball. However they have been cagey and wary of antagonising Lisa,I think this is because the worldlywise trio are afraid of Lisa climbing onto the judges table then divebombing and crushing them .”
“Apart from kind, civil Darcey, the judges have been brutal in pointing out the limitations of aged celebs, for example Johnny Ball. However they have been cagey and wary of antagonising Lisa,I think this is because the worldlywise trio are afraid of Lisa climbing onto the judges table then divebombing and crushing them
.”
Oh I was so sad for Johnny Ball at the comments he received
however, I thought he handled them with such dignity, unlike others who nearly threw their toys out of the pram because the judges didn't get their performance
If Michael does dad-dancing then Lisa does fat-auntie-dancing.
Loved her cha cha but it's been downhill since then.
Loved her cha cha but it's been downhill since then.
Originally Posted by Mystical123:
“What, the reason that she hasn't improved technically at all since week 1 (and that's where the 'same' criticism comes from - it's the same level of bad dancing, as well as some very similar choreography by Robin in all of the Latin dances) isn't a valid one? I thought I was watching a show that was to some extent about dancing!”
“What, the reason that she hasn't improved technically at all since week 1 (and that's where the 'same' criticism comes from - it's the same level of bad dancing, as well as some very similar choreography by Robin in all of the Latin dances) isn't a valid one? I thought I was watching a show that was to some extent about dancing!
”
Nope. 'She hasn't improved much, so therefore I hate her'. Not a valid enough reason in my eyes.
And '
' to you, too.
Lisa should stay for as long as possible IMO. She started on such a high note and overall has maintained that level of performance. It's not easy to get better when you start at somewhere near your ceiling of ability.
But you're supposed to get better - that's rather the point! Everyone can improve as they don't choose perfect dancers in the first place.
The judges are scared to mark her down for fear of being called "fattist"
The judges are scared to mark her down for fear of being called "fattist"
Originally Posted by StigOfTheKrump:
“Lisa is probably one of the most disliked contestants on here for a while, but the reasons for disliking her just aren't valid. To say that she does the 'same old thing every week' is complete nonsense, unless Cha-Chas and Viennese Waltzes and Quicksteps and Rumbas and Tangos and Charlestons are suddenly the same dance.”
“Lisa is probably one of the most disliked contestants on here for a while, but the reasons for disliking her just aren't valid. To say that she does the 'same old thing every week' is complete nonsense, unless Cha-Chas and Viennese Waltzes and Quicksteps and Rumbas and Tangos and Charlestons are suddenly the same dance.”
As far as I can see she 'dances' them all the same anyway (and gets away with it because ...well, we all know why, don't we?)
Originally Posted by Scarlett Berry:
“Oh I was so sad for Johnny Ball at the comments he received however, I thought he handled them with such dignity, unlike others who nearly threw their toys out of the pram because the judges didn't get their performance”
“Oh I was so sad for Johnny Ball at the comments he received
however, I thought he handled them with such dignity, unlike others who nearly threw their toys out of the pram because the judges didn't get their performance”
It is not good for Johnny to carry for years the memory of Craig's medical accusations based on incorrect guesswork. Johnny did not assassinate the dance, he was merely mumbling the song to himself, something my social dance partners do all the time into my ear. I was very happy if they were happy in themselves to sing.
Craig is intolerant of details while missing the big picture. God help any dancer holding a thumb at an angle not to Craig's liking.
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