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#26 |
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Why are you devastated, Ashley will be happy, she's got that whole positive vibe thing going on. Us moany Brits could learn a thing or two from her.
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Lol, nope, I don't think so. I believe in "playing fair", which didn't happen in the case of Ashley/Charlie. Nothing "bitter" about just wanting everyone to have a fair chance of winning. Or maybe you believe it's ok for some people to be given unfair advantages over others?
![]() She also had Ant and Dec drooling over her for most of the show. Charlie had the advantage of being a big name for being on EE, Ashley similar for being in Pussycat Dolls. It was fairly even to me. The only person who had a massive advantage was Helen with all the bl**dy trials. ![]()
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I don't understand why you suggest that Charlie had unfair advantages. Ashley had more trials from what I can remember, she also had a secret task which heavily featured her and she also got the phone call home.
Charlie had the advantage of being a big name for being on EE, Ashley similar for being in Pussycat Dolls. It was fialry even to me. The only person who had a massive advantage was Helen with all the bl**dy trials. ![]() ![]() ![]() I actually liked Helen, but then, I didn't really dislike any of them. Which is kind of a shame because every good show needs a good villain.
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Whilst I wanted Charlie to win, I have to agree with you.
Ashley didn't put a foot wrong and it did make me think "what the hell should she have done differently to win?" because everything she said and did was right. But then I arrive at the question of "why did you want Charlie to win, then?" and I can't really answer that. Maybe it's because she was more of an underdog than Ashley. Quote:
And if the show can't be won by non UK celebrities, then why even put people like Ashley on the show in the first place?
Poor Ashley, she lost for all the wrong reasons and that's the one thing that people will remember from this season. ![]() What were 'the wrong reasons' for losing? Getting fewer votes? |
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Did you vote?
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im gutted for Ashley, I think she needed to win more than Charlie does as she is famous big time from ee already
And look at it this way - loads of people already knew of Charlie before - her fanbase will not have increased since the show. She's not THAT much better known than she was before. Ashley on the other hand - well - EVERYONE seems to be talking about her. Like last year's winner - the existing fanbase did it for Charlie - I don't think the cute kid made much difference but it certainly didn't do any harm. Maybe Charlie did want the win more than anyone else - its just a pity she didn't do anything herself to earn it. |
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Maybe Charlie did want the win more than anyone else
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- its just a pity she didn't do anything herself to earn it.
YOu win I'm a celebrity by making people want to vote for you. There is no other way. Charlie won by being sweet, not very confident, determined, good natured, unfussy, relatable and just plain likeable. If she had not been, she would not have won, any more than another actress from a well known soap did.
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Personally, I think there were a lot of people voting for Charlie simply because she's British. I've seen enough xenophobic twoddle from users on here saying that Ashley should not win because she's not British. It's absolutely vile that people can be so xenophobic. I really like Charlie and I'm glad that it was out of her and Ashley (and glad that David Haye was there at the top as well) but I still think Ashley would have won it if she was British and not American.
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I think that the best thing to do if watching reality shows is to suss out at the start, who the most likely people to win are due to huge fanbase and so on and then just enjoy seeing whoever else is good natured, entertaining,interesting, funny, etc etc and realise that they probably won't, win. Good way to save money by not voting because there'll be very little chance for anyone else.
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It's best not to really care who wins. In years or reality viewing (well alright not so much in recent years but I was pretty dedicated back in the day) my favourite has never ever won a show. My support is the kiss of death to any reality tv contestant (apologies Hugo and Ashley). I've pretty much accepted that now and am just happy if they stay in for as long as possible.
It's nice to have more exclusive taste. |
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It's best not to really care who wins. In years or reality viewing (well alright not so much in recent years but I was pretty dedicated back in the day) my favourite has never ever won a show. My support is the kiss of death to any reality tv contestant (apologies Hugo and Ashley). I've pretty much accepted that now and am just happy if they stay in for as long as possible.
It's nice to have more exclusive taste. I'd love another David Gest or Carol Thatcher year though - they were my two favourite series. |
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I don't think it mattered who won . It certainly disproved the thoery that pretty girls can't win this show. Two pretty girls 1st and 2nd.
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Charlie was English, Ashley was American. That is all it took really.
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Charlie was English, Ashley was American. That is all it took really.
But then, maybe Charlie lead the vote throughout. |
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Neah, I would imagine it was simply a combination of those who liked her through the show, along with EE fans and importantly the floating final voters who vote for who they recognise.
But then, maybe Charlie lead the vote throughout. Ashley was better than her in many departments on the series and I think nationality did play a part. Mark Wright said he wanted her to win because she was English. |
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Personally, I think there were a lot of people voting for Charlie simply because she's British. I've seen enough xenophobic twoddle from users on here saying that Ashley should not win because she's not British. .
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I don't think it mattered who won . It certainly disproved the thoery that pretty girls can't win this show. Two pretty girls 1st and 2nd.
A very pleasing result all round I thought.
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Ashley had it wrapped up and then Ant and Dec said near the end that a take over had happened in terms of the vote. Charlie must have had a late surge of voters.
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I would be devastated if I lost my job, my house, my family died, etc, not someone winning a reality show that if it was cancelled tomorrow, would mean nothing to my life. Don't get me wrong, I'm not slagging the show off, but something really devastating is not someone winning or losing a reality show. Perhaps we need a little perspective here, I'm A Celeb is a reality show, a form of entertainment that if it went off air, would hardly alter the course of history. However, some of these shows have developed a fanatical following, where a helpline had to be opened when Big Brother was cancelled to console distraught fans. These shows are merely a 21st century take on a game show and nothing more, same as the end of The Generation Game didn't mean much at the time.
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I would be devastated if I lost my job, my house, my family died, etc, not someone winning a reality show that if it was cancelled tomorrow, would mean nothing to my life. Don't get me wrong, I'm not slagging the show off, but something really devastating is not someone winning or losing a reality show.
Can't wait until next year. |
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I doubt that Ashley was ever ahead in the voting to be honest. I know that A&D said at one point 'the lead is switching as we speak' or something similar - but all presenters of this kind of show say this - to get some last minute telephone revenue.
I honestly believe it was a last minute thing and I expect Charlie won by around 52% against Ashley's 48%. |
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Don't worry, Ashley fans, we know who our Queen of the Jungle is! With her singing career, she has too much credibility anyway to be another IACGMOOH winner, doing tacky adverts and TV appearances. Charlie, on the other hand, needs these jobs in order to keep paying the bills until Eastenders have her back once again!
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It seems that the voting was close. I genuinely can't understand the outrage at Ashley coming second. If an american can very nearly win against a lot of brits, presumably an american can win. You are surely not suggesting that Charlie ONLY beat Ashley by being English; more English in fact that any other contestant this year.
What were 'the wrong reasons' for losing? Getting fewer votes? ![]() The "wrong reasons" for Ashley losing have been discussed endlessly here. In fact, I just mentioned them a couple of posts before. So I don't see the point in continually repeating them. ![]() I just think it's disappointing overall, more so than an outrage. |
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I'm actually devastated that Ashley lost...
Please. Please don't be. Please don't be devastated.
It's just an em-effing goofy gameshow. Ashley is not devastated. Evil did not triumph. |
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Personally, I think there were a lot of people voting for Charlie simply because she's British. I've seen enough xenophobic twoddle from users on here saying that Ashley should not win because she's not British. It's absolutely vile that people can be so xenophobic. I really like Charlie and I'm glad that it was out of her and Ashley (and glad that David Haye was there at the top as well) but I still think Ashley would have won it if she was British and not American.
"Oh great, another British win in Olympic year". Really??!! ![]() If that really was the case here (I'm not sure yet) then we had better keep the show all-British to stop these pesky foreigners from coming on trying to take our gameshows, our jobs and our wimmen!!! |
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