I find it amazing how people can go from hero to zero on this forum in a short space of time. At first the boards were alight with how wonderful she was and now she seems to be the devil personified.

I agree that her time has probably come to an end but I dont like all the nastiness towards her now. Its not her fault that the public keep her in and, to be fair, no good dancers have gone at the expense of poorer ones like in previous series.

As I posted on another thread, she is starting panto on 12th December so she may not be that bothered if she goes this weekend.

Yes! Recent past and present employees of the BBC tend to do well in this competition. Strange that, innit?

Yes, I think there is some real nastiness towards Lisa on this board, but.....

There is also some genuine frustration at the failure of the so called 'expert' judges to comment and mark fairly.

I have no problems with Lisa winning should she get the public vote, but I do think there is no point in having judges on the show unless they do their job properly. It just seems to be disingenuous, to say the least.

I don't think Lisa is 'hated' on this board but I can't understand how you don't understand why some people have been unimpressed with her performances. Whilst it may be a Saturday night entertainment show, that entertainment is provided in very large measure by celebrities learning to dance so the quality of their performances has some relevance. For me it has a lot of relevance, certainly more than whether or not her enthusiasm is endearing.

For the last three weeks in particular her performances have not been very good, certainly not in the context of how far we are now into the series. For me she should be in the bottom two tonight although somehow I doubt that she will be.

Each to their own of course, but I don't understand how anyone could possibly like her, so it works both ways, it's not hatred. If you think she's getting hatred, you should read some of the threads about Louis, or Denise, or the ones that existed when Victoria was still in the competition. Lisa's getting relatively mild treatment on here in comparison, but it's intensifying because she's being so clearly favourited by the judges and so ridiculously overmarked time and time again. It's starting to look very obviously unfair, so of course she's going to be criticised.



True, but it's still Strictly Come Dancing, not Strictly Come Bounce Around the Floor Out of Time Then Throw Yourself on a Sofa.

And to me dancing IS entertaiment - faffing around with lots of props and 'fun' is not, it just distracts from the dances, which previous series' contestants have shown time and time again can be a knockout and hugely satisfying to watch. I prefer to see people improving well (Mark Ramprakash, Chris Hollins etc) or talented people applying their talents to create beautiful dances (Kara, Alesha, Pamela, Harry, Ricky Whittle etc)

My point being, it IS a show about dance, not just entertainment - it's a show about celebrities learning to dance. Even Denise, who many people vilify on here for having (in their opinion) too much experience has improved her ballroom significantly and is still showing her struggles in the Latin.

Lisa, on the other hand, hasn't improved technically at all since week 1 - she's still out of time, flat footed, lacking all the ballroom technical basics that the others are mastering at least some of, and even her acting, which she's supposed to be experienced at, was non-existent in her rumba. None of that can be compensated for by enthusiasm and 'fun' alone, not in my book, and that's why I'm as vehement about not voting for her as many people seem to be about Denise, and why I think it would be a travesty and make a mockery of the show if she wins.

I'm aware that's a strong opinion, but it's how I feel nevertheless. If she's in the final, I'll be making a cup of tea every time she dances and voting for whoever's against her, even if it's Nicky!

That is strange.

I can only think that the judges (the men anyway and perhaps they've warned Darcy) are remembering the situation with John Sargent when they ridiculed his performance (rightly) but the public turned on them and voted in (apparantly) enormous numbers for him. I presume they (the judges) have an indication of Lisa's popularity with the public and are reluctant to criticise her in the same way they criticise all the others. I think it's a pity that they don't use their marks to get the message over.

Brilliantly put.

I certainly don't hate Lisa and I was one of the many people utterly charmed by her in the first few weeks.

Last nights Quickstep was pretty atrocious though and any other contestant would have been eviscerated for the glaring timing issues and poor footwork.

It seems like Craig (particularly, but all the judges have their kid gloves on) has decided to propel her to the final, just as he did with Dr Hamela a few years ago.

It would be big news for the BBC if she won, rather than another young, fit obvious type.

I like her enough still and love her enthusiasm for the show, which is always a big part of the celebrities appeal for me, but her dancing is disappointing at the moment - you don't need to be a dance expert to spot that.

Halleluliah! Well sadi!!

I think you are confusing criticism of her dancing and the judges marking as 'hate'.

Of course there have been personal comments made about Lisa, but far less so than other contestants like Denise, Louis and Victoria.

I agree with this, however I did not like her reaction to the judges last week, she was shocked (her own words or words to that effect) that they "did not GET her performance". This was mentioned in the Tesspit, on ITT and on the VT this week. It left me with the feeling that Lisa has a self inflated sense of importance or a self entitlement issue regarding her comments/scores from the judges. Her lack of progress AND the blatant favouritism from Craig and the other judges has left me with a bad taste in my mouth. I've rapidly gone off Lisa and to an extent (by association & dodgy choreography ) Robin and wouldn't be sad to see the back of them both.

100% agree.

Thanks Tinkle first time anyone has agreed with me

For me, Lisa operates on the principle of vastly diminishing returns.

I enjoyed her cha cha. It wasn't the surprise that it seems to have been for everyone else but it brought a smile to my face nonetheless.

Since then, each dance she's done has brought less and less pleasure to the point where I actually dislike watching her (I do find the ff button tremendously effective here). It's like eating a rich dessert. The first mouthful is a delight and gives much joy. The first bowlful is still pleasant. However, being forced to eat bowl after bowl means that pleasure in said dessert decreases to a point where it actually becomes unpleasant and starts to make you feel sick. Harsh? Yes. But true for me I'm afraid. I'm not saying Lisa now makes me feel sick (although her rumba came close) but she is now irritating the heck out of me.

There is 'hatred' towards every contestant on this board at some point or other, Lisa is no different, maybe it's just her turn. That said, I dont think she's doing herself any favours and the judges need to stop overmarking her. That QS was packed full of mistakes - ANY other celeb there would've been crucified for it but she just gets told she's 'great fun'!

It reminds me a bit of the negative things said about Denise Welch in the BB forum that showed how much out of step many DS posters are with the GBP. I suspect the same thing is happening with Lisa.

Or maybe it's because her fans press the redial button more when they vote for her?

Simples.

More "soap" fans will be viewing this programme than "old boy band" fans.

You can thank the judges for all the ill feeling for Lisa.

AGREE all these sad people being rude against her, pick on some-one else.

well she represents about 45% of the population, doesn't she?

Snap!

Oh, okay.

Denise is a dirty great ringah with legs like an ostrich and she isn't as good as she thinks she is.

Kimberley is another dirty ringah with the personality of a bowl of white rice and her dancing aint all that either.

Dani is a stompy, inelegant oompah loompah who is also vastly overrated. And... oh yes, another dirty great ringah.

Louis has even less personality than Dani (grain of uncooked white rice in his case) and he's so far up his own @rse he could give himself oral colonic irrigation.

Nicky is a carp dancer and he hates his partner. Every time he goes out onto the floor you can see him exuding "Die bitch die" vibes from his eyes.

Michael is...er... a cricketer.



Well you asked.

All part of the production team's plan. Each celeb has a part to play in the Strictly pantomime.