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Old 02-12-2012, 12:54
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Honestly i know James got like 100 votes more than anyone else on who's your favourite polls.

But in terms of discussion, all i seen for awhile is chris threads about irrelevant stuff really. The odd James thread i saw was always negative. you get people saying he cant sing and sounds horrible and all this crazy stuff.

Now when i talk to people about the show in real life, they love and rate james so highly. pretty much on twitter hes universally viewed as the only real credible artist with a chance of selling millions of albums. every musician who's been on the show or tweets about it or has talked about the show mentions James as the one who should win or with the talent.

Yet on here i read he's nothing special, cant sing, looks horrible, sounds horrible, cannot play the guitar.

Is this some sort of alliance of lunatics or is this generally the consensus? How can a forum designed to talk about the x factor be so out of touch with reality?

What is this down to, do people who take the x factor so serious just don't understand music or voice? Or is it too new to be able to put your own spin on songs or what? I don't get it.

Considering these are the people that vote i am pretty perplexed as to how they form the bizarre opinions they do.
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Old 02-12-2012, 12:56
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Oh dear. So to sum up; people who don't like James on the forum are out of touch and their opinions are pointless.

Or in other words those who don't agree with me are wrong?
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Old 02-12-2012, 12:59
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Oh dear. So to sum up; people who don't like James on the forum are out of touch and their opinions are pointless.

Or in other words those who don't agree with me are wrong?
Pretty much - OP's going to fit right in here!
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Old 02-12-2012, 12:59
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I would say that anyone who rates James as a 'credible' artist is seriously out of touch with reality, if James is as credible as his supporters would have us believe, he would have had the credibility to avoid a show like X-Factor like the absolutely plague...he is average and the show are trying to plug him desperately as a serious artist, its their marketing strategy simple.

You dont work for Syco per chance do you, some serious plugging for James with your 2nd post...
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Old 02-12-2012, 13:00
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Honestly i know James got like 100 votes more than anyone else on who's your favourite polls.

But in terms of discussion, all i seen for awhile is chris threads about irrelevant stuff really. The odd James thread i saw was always negative. you get people saying he cant sing and sounds horrible and all this crazy stuff.

Now when i talk to people about the show in real life, they love and rate james so highly. pretty much on twitter hes universally viewed as the only real credible artist with a chance of selling millions of albums. every musician who's been on the show or tweets about it or has talked about the show mentions James as the one who should win or with the talent.

Yet on here i read he's nothing special, cant sing, looks horrible, sounds horrible, cannot play the guitar.

Is this some sort of alliance of lunatics or is this generally the consensus? How can a forum designed to talk about the x factor be so out of touch with reality?

What is this down to, do people who take the x factor so serious just don't understand music or voice? Or is it too new to be able to put your own spin on songs or what? I don't get it.

Considering these are the people that vote i am pretty perplexed as to how they form the bizarre opinions they do.
Maybe you are selectively reading the posts of people that don't like James?

As for Chris... he is irrelevant.
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Old 02-12-2012, 13:00
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In fairness to the OP X Factor is pretty out of touch and pointless.
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Old 02-12-2012, 13:00
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James gets so much hate from this forum simply because he slagged digital spy off......
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Old 02-12-2012, 13:01
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OP you only have 2 posts on this entire forum. Without fully contributing to all the threads in this particular section, how can you even form such an opinion? :sleep:
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Old 02-12-2012, 13:02
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Oh dear. So to sum up; people who don't like James on the forum are out of touch and their opinions are pointless.

Or in other words those who don't agree with me are wrong?
Huh? You're saying a bunch of people on a forum going completely against almost everything out there, from every credible non credible musician with actual no affiliation to x factor, experts are in fact just having a different opinion?

It's not. It's basically saying Man Utd are a crap team, it's not true, it's simple false. So why tout false silly stuff, in the name of ''my opinion'' wouldn't it be easier to say ''hey im old i don't get him'' or are forum posters too egotistical for such basic honesty?
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Old 02-12-2012, 13:04
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James gets so much hate from this forum simply because he slagged digital spy off......
And the fact that he's utterly crap and sounds like a reject from psychic Tv trying to channel the spirit of Elvis while having their tonsils removed has nothing to do with it.
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Old 02-12-2012, 13:05
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I would say that anyone who rates James as a 'credible' artist is seriously out of touch with reality, if James is as credible as his supporters would have us believe, he would have had the credibility to avoid a show like X-Factor like the absolutely plague...he is average and the show are trying to plug him desperately as a serious artist, its their marketing strategy simple.

You dont work for Syco per chance do you, some serious plugging for James with your 2nd post...
Of course you would, then the fact that those in reality who make a living from music all have a consensus that says the complete opposite would prove your view redundant. It's just silly to me.

Every credible artist out there that watches this show finds James credible..are they out of touch with reality? Did they sell millions by accident? Or maybe it's you who is out of touch?

Why does syco want james to win? Huh? What's the reason? They want a non credible guy who cant sing to win? what.

No i read the forum because it used to be interesting but i have been disillusioned with the views on james that i had to sign up
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Old 02-12-2012, 13:05
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James is very good. But some people prefer the mediocrity of Karaoke Chris. Unfortunately, karaoke fans have access to the internet too.
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Old 02-12-2012, 13:07
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Maybe you are selectively reading the posts of people that don't like James?

As for Chris... he is irrelevant.
Where are they? I only see 1-2 James threads and they're negative as hell
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Old 02-12-2012, 13:07
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Of course you would, then the fact that those in reality who make a living from music all have a consensus that says the complete opposite would prove your view redundant. It's just silly to me.

Every credible artist out there that watches this show finds James credible..are they out of touch with reality? Did they sell millions by accident? Or maybe it's you who is out of touch?

Why does syco want james to win? Huh? What's the reason? They want a non credible guy who cant sing to win? what.

No i read the forum because it used to be interesting but i have been disillusioned with the views on james that i had to sign up
So lots of well known musicians and producers in the indsutry are lauding James as the next big thing, after simply seeing him perform covers on a show which anyone with real music credibility sees as one of the first worst things to happen to music in years? Okay then....

And as I said previously if James is as credible as his supporters would have us believe, he would have had the credibility to avoid a show like X-Factor like the absolutely plague, dont you think?
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Old 02-12-2012, 13:08
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Huh? You're saying a bunch of people on a forum going completely against almost everything out there, from every credible non credible musician with actual no affiliation to x factor, experts are in fact just having a different opinion?

It's not. It's basically saying Man Utd are a crap team, it's not true, it's simple false. So why tout false silly stuff, in the name of ''my opinion'' wouldn't it be easier to say ''hey im old i don't get him'' or are forum posters too egotistical for such basic honesty?
Then you have confirmed that just because you say it is right then everyone is wrong. Everyone should follow each other like sheep and have no personal taste. I give you the reward for the most delusional person here.

You areal do going to have to give some evidence that every single artist in the world I'd lauding James. Which you know is untrue.
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Old 02-12-2012, 13:08
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You have to accept that not everyone has the same taste in music as you.

Firstly, this is not a forum dedicated to new music, it's an entertainment forum. People here will like all sorts of music ranging from easy listening to punk to pop and everyone's taste is valid to them.

Secondly, this is X Factor. Prime time Saturday night entertainment.......it's not really aimed at you.

I'm going to see a band who are in my opinion one of the greatest bands this country has ever produced next weekend in a tiny little venue in Huddersfield that holds a few hundred people.......That could mean I'm wrong and they're not one of the best bands this country has ever produced or it could mean most people have a different taste in music to me. I'm going with the latter.

It is very rarely the case that the best music is the most popular.
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Old 02-12-2012, 13:09
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Baloney is getting votes because people are taking the p*ss . they want to get "one over" the x factor.
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Old 02-12-2012, 13:14
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This is an X Factor forum, not a music appreciation forum.
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Old 02-12-2012, 13:17
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What do you mean 'becoming out of touch'

DS has never really been in touch with the general view on anything
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Old 02-12-2012, 13:19
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You are as bad as the rest of us and your post proves it.

And you need to tell these real lifers to get voting!
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Old 02-12-2012, 13:19
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What do you mean 'becoming out of touch'

DS has never really been in touch with the general view on anything
It will be a shock the day we all agree on something!
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Old 02-12-2012, 13:21
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DS opinion has always been pretty much a LOL for the general reader. Off course the opinions are different from the majority, most people post comments to get a reaction.
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Old 02-12-2012, 13:22
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Baloney is getting votes because people are taking the p*ss . they want to get "one over" the x factor.
and yet they are giving them loads of money by voting for him. One thing laughs at the other.
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Old 02-12-2012, 13:23
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You are as bad as the rest of us and your post proves it.

And you need to tell these real lifers to get voting!
I will not vote personally. But serious level he is the only one who will sell anything, the show will not be worth crap if the best person/selling artist does not win. He is not misha b or danyl he is likeable and marketable as well as credible and talented.

SOme people said he has no stage presence, i thought his marvin gaye last week was the best stage presence of the whole show by a mile.

he's done modern songs, guitar, no guitar, ballad everything versatile completely. I really cannot see one fault with the guy. At first i will not lie i did not get him. I thought he is too depressive, and moody on stage.

Took me a bit to really get that's not the case at all, some people understood that quicker than me, and maybe some are a bit slower considering these outrageous views i am hearing.

don't get me wrong not everyone has to like or think the same thing, but it's just on the verge of a group of deluded lunatics what im seeing written.
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Old 02-12-2012, 13:24
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Ermmm i think that just because people disagree with your taste in music does not make them wrong or right, music is very individual and always will be.

I think a lot of the forum members are also long term watchers of X Factor and feel strongly that James should NOT win if he is to keep any of his originality , Syco has always been all about turning out generic pop artists which James is clearly not one of. Everything that is unique about James would be striped away by Syco.

He would have to get a record label with artistic freedom for him to remain who he is.
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