Strange Jahmene Timeline
Actually R Kelly wrote the song around six years ago and it is a well known song on the gospel circuit before Whitney Houston recorded her version.
Nicole will be the death of Jahmene with her exploitative sob story wrenching stunts. He looked pretty uncomfortable on stage afterwards, like the producers coerced him in to discussing a private family matter like that.
Yeah ....sounds like blantant manipulation to get votes.
Is it just me or have people gone of Nicole especially after the Ashley Pussydolls disclosures......
Is it just me or have people gone of Nicole especially after the Ashley Pussydolls disclosures......
Originally Posted by ArtyAttack:
“Actually R Kelly wrote the song around six years ago and it is a well known song on the gospel circuit before Whitney Houston recorded her version.”
“Actually R Kelly wrote the song around six years ago and it is a well known song on the gospel circuit before Whitney Houston recorded her version.”
Thanks Arty - do you have any reference links to back that up?
Originally Posted by ArtyAttack:
“Actually R Kelly wrote the song around six years ago and it is a well known song on the gospel circuit before Whitney Houston recorded her version.”
“Actually R Kelly wrote the song around six years ago and it is a well known song on the gospel circuit before Whitney Houston recorded her version.”
Can you provide proof of that? A video of someone singing the song in full from 2008 or earlier would be ideal. It's just that I watched a video of R Kelly singing the song in 2007 but he didn't sing the full song. How Jahmene would have sung the entirety of ''I Look To You'' in 2008 rather than the incomplete demo from 2007 is a bit of a mystery. He said he never got past a verse and chorus but that's all that was released at that point. I asked for proof of the complete song being sung prior to Whitney Houston's version last night but nothing came of it. I think this is the only way to put the ''conspiracy theory'' to rest. I'm not saying anyone is lying but there are inconsistencies in Jahmene's story.
Originally Posted by Pamthehound:
“Yeah ....sounds like blantant manipulation to get votes.
Is it just me or have people gone of Nicole especially after the Ashley Pussydolls disclosures......”
“Yeah ....sounds like blantant manipulation to get votes.
Is it just me or have people gone of Nicole especially after the Ashley Pussydolls disclosures......”
Last night she was talking such utter drivel; 'baby Jesus coming down the stairs" etc. I have zero belief in Christianity or the Church but I found her banal musings an affront to people (Jahmene included) who do have a faith or beliefs. She's jumped the Kelly Rowland shark imo.
Cheers for all the replies - I understand this has been explained previously but has anyone any links to clear it up?
Originally Posted by WagBo2;62720070)
The song wasn't heard until 2009 according to [URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/I_Look_to_You_(song)":
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The song wasn't heard until 2009 according to [URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/I_Look_to_You_(song)":
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THen that's your mistake. Just because its on Wikipedia does not make it right.
Originally Posted by geohawk:
“THen that's your mistake. Just because its on Wikipedia does not make it right.”
“THen that's your mistake. Just because its on Wikipedia does not make it right.”
Thanks, I didn't just check Wikipedia, there's no evidence I can find of the song existing before 2009 in any recorded form.
Perhaps I have cloth ears but just watched the repeat and I heard Jahmene say his brother died in 2008, so all these timeline threads are moot, no?
Saying that, everyone else seems pretty sure they heard 2009 so perhaps my hearing is gone.
Might have to watch youtube vid.
Saying that, everyone else seems pretty sure they heard 2009 so perhaps my hearing is gone.
Might have to watch youtube vid.
Originally Posted by ogg monster:
“Perhaps I have cloth ears but just watched the repeat and I heard Jahmene say his brother died in 2008, so all these timeline threads are moot, no?
Saying that, everyone else seems pretty sure they heard 2009 so perhaps my hearing is gone.
Might have to watch youtube vid.”
“Perhaps I have cloth ears but just watched the repeat and I heard Jahmene say his brother died in 2008, so all these timeline threads are moot, no?
Saying that, everyone else seems pretty sure they heard 2009 so perhaps my hearing is gone.
Might have to watch youtube vid.”
Lots of online articles say 2008, can't find any which say 2009.
Best explanation I've read is about a verse and chorus being online before 2008 but that doesn't explain how he couldn't sing the song all the way through.
On the surface it looks horribly cynical but I'm sure there's some proof out there that would help, I don't think someone who seems so grounded would exploit such a personal incident to win a singing contest.
Originally Posted by WagBo2:
“ I don't think someone who seems so grounded would exploit such a personal incident to win a singing contest.”
“ I don't think someone who seems so grounded would exploit such a personal incident to win a singing contest.”
Heaven forbid!
Originally Posted by Broken_Arrow:
“Can you provide proof of that? A video of someone singing the song in full from 2008 or earlier would be ideal. It's just that I watched a video of R Kelly singing the song in 2007 but he didn't sing the full song. How Jahmene would have sung the entirety of ''I Look To You'' in 2008 rather than the incomplete demo from 2007 is a bit of a mystery. He said he never got past a verse and chorus but that's all that was released at that point. I asked for proof of the complete song being sung prior to Whitney Houston's version last night but nothing came of it. I think this is the only way to put the ''conspiracy theory'' to rest. I'm not saying anyone is lying but there are inconsistencies in Jahmene's story.”
“Can you provide proof of that? A video of someone singing the song in full from 2008 or earlier would be ideal. It's just that I watched a video of R Kelly singing the song in 2007 but he didn't sing the full song. How Jahmene would have sung the entirety of ''I Look To You'' in 2008 rather than the incomplete demo from 2007 is a bit of a mystery. He said he never got past a verse and chorus but that's all that was released at that point. I asked for proof of the complete song being sung prior to Whitney Houston's version last night but nothing came of it. I think this is the only way to put the ''conspiracy theory'' to rest. I'm not saying anyone is lying but there are inconsistencies in Jahmene's story.”
perhaps he had written his own lyrics, considering it was for such a personal occasion. Are you gonna tell me that’s impossible?
Originally Posted by WagBo2:
“Lots of online articles say 2008, can't find any which say 2009.
Best explanation I've read is about a verse and chorus being online before 2008 but that doesn't explain how he couldn't sing the song all the way through.
On the surface it looks horribly cynical but I'm sure there's some proof out there that would help, I don't think someone who seems so grounded would exploit such a personal incident to win a singing contest.”
“Lots of online articles say 2008, can't find any which say 2009.
Best explanation I've read is about a verse and chorus being online before 2008 but that doesn't explain how he couldn't sing the song all the way through.
On the surface it looks horribly cynical but I'm sure there's some proof out there that would help, I don't think someone who seems so grounded would exploit such a personal incident to win a singing contest.”
I don't believe Jahmene would do such a thing either but there are questions that remain to be answered. I'd like to think there's a perfectly innocent explanation but until someone can show me proof this song was out there in full before 2008 then I'll remain suspicious.
Originally Posted by supersnake:
“perhaps he had written his own lyrics, considering it was for such a personal occasion. Are you gonna tell me that’s impossible?”
“perhaps he had written his own lyrics, considering it was for such a personal occasion. Are you gonna tell me that’s impossible?”
Entirely possible but pure conjecture. Has he said he wrote his own lyrics? We can only go on what we know and the information at hand leaves unanswered questions.
Wouldn't family and friends of his deceased brother just call him out if Jahmene had actually made up that story? TBH I think the producers twisted his arm with this one, Jahmene comes across as a very private individual and I got the impression he just wasn't comfortable with the story.
Originally Posted by Ryan11:
“If it was that popular in Gospel, surely there would be a video from 2008 or earlier.”
“If it was that popular in Gospel, surely there would be a video from 2008 or earlier.”
That's what I would have thought, or some trace of it somewhere. Also on all the reviews of Whitney's album there's no mention I can see of the song being a gospel favourite or one that R Kelly has performed previously.
Originally Posted by WagBo2:
“That's what I would have thought, or some trace of it somewhere. Also on all the reviews of Whitney's album there's no mention I can see of the song being a gospel favourite or one that R Kelly has performed previously.”
“That's what I would have thought, or some trace of it somewhere. Also on all the reviews of Whitney's album there's no mention I can see of the song being a gospel favourite or one that R Kelly has performed previously.”
There is a video of R Kelly singing it in 2007. That much is true. But he only sings a demo version consisting of a verse and the chorus. What I'm now leaning towards is that this is the version Jahmene performed in 2008. But they've dramaticized his not singing anything more than the verse and chorus to make it more emotional and pull on viewers heartstrings. The reality appears to be that rather than finding it difficult to sing the entire song it was in fact impossible since the entire song had not been released at that point.
While this would be an exaggeration of the truth it's not an outright lie. It's disingenuous and misleading but not a lie. The only snag with this explanation is that I find it hard to believe Jahmene would hunt down a then unreleased Whitney Houston song sung by another artist and memorize it. It's unlikely but possible. The claims of the song being a Gospel favourite pre-dating Houston's version seem to be false as no evidence has been provided.
