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What was more powerful? Jahmene and his story James and his brilliance?
factorxx
02-12-2012
I'd have to say Jahmene's song and how touching it was with everybody seemingly tearful, was stronger than James despite how good he was.

So this week i reckon Jahmene will get probably double the votes of anyone else. Human emotion will always trump talent when it comes to a contest judged by the majority of the public.

Next week will be different entirely though.
JonDoe
02-12-2012
I didn't think James was up to his usual standard this week.

But I'm not keen on Jahmene at the best of times, so James.
ageappropriate
02-12-2012
It was self-indulgent caterwauling with a tacked on sob story that is an insult to his dead brother.

James could barely keep in tune, let alone enunciate.
BillyBoy7
02-12-2012
James and 'brilliance' in the same sentence!!!

You're kidding surely?

The guy can't sing.
StrayFlounder
02-12-2012
To be honest the only reason I voted for Jahmene last night was because it was all so sad about his brother dying. Sympathy vote from me
sjp07
02-12-2012
Originally Posted by Popsmartz:
“But what if something happens between now and next week to raise the sympathy bar?”

This is the fundamental difference between US and UK singing shows. We don't follow our people's lives throughout the week and the press doesn't report on them unless it's something major, but even then, most of us don't know about it. After the show goes off, that's it until next week unless you follow them on twitter. Last season of The Voice gossip blogs were talking only because Xtina was being a bitch to her old mouseketeermate. I think that helps keep the voting fair and it makes it so our judges don't have to say what Gary Barlow says almost every week, "I know you've had some trouble in the press this week, but..."
ribtickle
02-12-2012
The way Jahmene sang the first half of I Look To You, as any fellow Whitney fan out there would know, was a carbon copy of Whitney's album version. She is his hero; he developed his voice singing along to her records. The last half, obviously affected by his emotions, was weak and at times untidy. At Last was a well-executed but extremely safe repeat of his audition. It would have stolen the show and possibly won a Final if we'd never heard him do it before, but it was just a CD2 'remix' with less impact.

Other than I Look To You's dedication, I didn't see much bravery on Jahmene's part, even if that's how it was presented. And as per usual, he stood rooted to the stage, so not taking any risks there either. I don't want him to make it to the Final or win based on sympathy, there's been enough of that this series with Maloney. He has bags of potential, but he's has had few 'moments' this series, mainly because he blows it with oversinging. He appears to have little by way of natural interpretative skills, and is good when copying someone else, as if singing along to an iPod playing, but when he freestyles it's always hit & miss. When Nicole explains that he always does something unique, and it's all about what he's feeling at the time, this can also suggest that he is undisciplined and effectively unrehearsed, and he simply doesn't have the vocal control or interpretative abilities to carry that off reliably on live television.

James on the other hand was extremely bold. Two big hairy balls were on display tonight. Both his songs were in different genres to what he has previously performed, and neither featured his comforting crutch of a guitar. This guy can never be accused of playing it safe, and in every song he tackles he does something different to the original, he does not impersonate, and through that and his interpretative skills he displays a level of artistry which the other three put together cannot equal. Admittedly U2's One did seem a little lacklustre by his standards, at least the first third of it, it's not their most dynamic song and he doesn't have Bono's growling stadium rocker's voice.

The Power Of Love worked much better and was a satisfying update to a classic power ballad. Not sure, even with James as my favourite throughout, if I'd agree with Gary that it was 'the performance of the series' - James has several other nominations for that title, but it was still stunning in many ways. Possibly, along with describing him as a 'northern star' and performing one of the last truly big scouse hits (one which has been re-released several times over), it was a crafty attempt to steal some of Maloney's votes too.

So for me, even though neither singer delivered their series best, the winner between the two gladiators was James. Always interesting, always brave, and artistry over sympathy any day.
wigwag46
02-12-2012
James all the way.
Tomi Adenuga
02-12-2012
Jahmene. END OF!
IsItThatDeep
02-12-2012
Dunno but the fan disputes on here are much more interesting and entertaining than the contestants are.
WoahOh
02-12-2012
James is no more talented then any busker or pub singer. Brilliance .
Supercalifragil
02-12-2012
'James' and 'brilliance' in the same sentence?
Menk
02-12-2012
Originally Posted by ribtickle:
“The way Jahmene sang the first half of I Look To You, as any fellow Whitney fan out there would know, was a carbon copy of Whitney's album version. She is his hero; he developed his voice singing along to her records. The last half, obviously affected by his emotions, was weak and at times untidy. At Last was a well-executed but extremely safe repeat of his audition. It would have stolen the show and possibly won a Final if we'd never heard him do it before, but it was just a CD2 'remix' with less impact.

Other than I Look To You's dedication, I didn't see much bravery on Jahmene's part, even if that's how it was presented. And as per usual, he stood rooted to the stage, so not taking any risks there either. I don't want him to make it to the Final or win based on sympathy, there's been enough of that this series with Maloney. He has bags of potential, but he's has had few 'moments' this series, mainly because he blows it with oversinging. He appears to have little by way of natural interpretative skills, and is good when copying someone else, as if singing along to an iPod playing, but when he freestyles it's always hit & miss. When Nicole explains that he always does something unique, and it's all about what he's feeling at the time, this can also suggest that he is undisciplined and effectively unrehearsed, and he simply doesn't have the vocal control or interpretative abilities to carry that off reliably on live television.

James on the other hand was extremely bold. Two big hairy balls were on display tonight. Both his songs were in different genres to what he has previously performed, and neither featured his comforting crutch of a guitar. This guy can never be accused of playing it safe, and in every song he tackles he does something different to the original, he does not impersonate, and through that and his interpretative skills he displays a level of artistry which the other three put together cannot equal. Admittedly U2's One did seem a little lacklustre by his standards, at least the first third of it, it's not their most dynamic song and he doesn't have Bono's growling stadium rocker's voice.

The Power Of Love worked much better and was a satisfying update to a classic power ballad. Not sure, even with James as my favourite throughout, if I'd agree with Gary that it was 'the performance of the series' - James has several other nominations for that title, but it was still stunning in many ways. Possibly, along with describing him as a 'northern star' and performing one of the last truly big scouse hits (one which has been re-released several times over), it was a crafty attempt to steal some of Maloney's votes too.

So for me, even though neither singer delivered their series best, the winner between the two gladiators was James. Always interesting, always brave, and artistry over sympathy any day.”

Excellent post.
BROXI BEAR
02-12-2012
James and his brilliance . Dear God pmsl. He gives good performances but please the guy is a poor singer.

Some of the hyperbole on her is laughable!
Ryan11
02-12-2012
Jahmene's story was ruined by the fact that the song he apparently sung at his brothers funeral wasn't even recorded at the time.
factorxx
02-12-2012
Originally Posted by BROXI BEAR:
“James and his brilliance . Dear God pmsl. He gives good performances but please the guy is a poor singer.

Some of the hyperbole on her is laughable!”

It is pure brilliance, he is a rival to ed sheeran.
Supercalifragil
02-12-2012
Originally Posted by Ryan11:
“Jahmene's story was ruined by the fact that the song he apparently sung at his brothers funeral wasn't even recorded at the time.”

This is INCORRECT. Please get your facts right, please. Read the WHOLE thread where you got this statement from.
mimik1uk
02-12-2012
Originally Posted by factorxx:
“It is pure brilliance, he is a rival to ed sheeran.”

if that was the case then why has he needed to come on a show like the x factor to get noticed

if he was genuinely as talented as some seem to think he would have got a break long before now
factorxx
02-12-2012
Originally Posted by mimik1uk:
“if that was the case then why has he needed to come on a show like the x factor to get noticed

if he was genuinely as talented as some seem to think he would have got a break long before now”

Well no, by this logic nobody good would be on the x-factor. Sometimes you need a platform! Ed Sheeran played 100's of shows, made 2-3 albums before he got his big break with the a team.
mimik1uk
02-12-2012
Originally Posted by factorxx:
“Well no, by this logic nobody good would be on the x-factor. Sometimes you need a platform! Ed Sheeran played 100's of shows, made 2-3 albums before he got his big break with the a team.”

and supposedly james has been on the circuit gigging for awhile

are you trying to say he has just been unlucky ?

and btw nobody good has been on the x factor for years , the only ones that have been successful are the ones that have needed the massive publicity machine of syco behind them
Zack06
02-12-2012
Originally Posted by ageappropriate:
“It was self-indulgent caterwauling with a tacked on sob story that is an insult to his dead brother.

James could barely keep in tune, let alone enunciate.”

I think that's a bit much. Did you even know Jahmene's brother to be making statements like that...
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