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Get Rid Of Sugar?
Would the series be better, less tired, if they brought in some different business gurus? I don't rate Sugar as a great businessman anyway, his ideas are always the same, we've all heard his 'I don't like b*llshitters' stuff. Get some other successful people in to judge, it's not like the prize is even working for him anymore (which was always a farce).
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Couldn't have the Apprentice without Al'
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I actually think it could work quite well if Karren Brady was in charge. She really knows her stuff, and I think at times she is actually fairer than Sugar.
The only thing that could count against her is that she is a bit more middle-class than Sugar, and the fact that Sugar was born on a council estate and worked his way up is a part of the show really. |
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Well if the hiring and firing was upto Karen there won't be much point any males applying as she'll sack em in the first 6 weeks if they end up in the board room
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Well if the hiring and firing was upto Karen there won't be much point any males applying as she'll sack em in the first 6 weeks if they end up in the board room
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Now the format has changed you could have anyone reasonably successful in the raised seat.
Previously Sid was a good fit because he had loads of space to hide the idiot he was forced to hire. |
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What about Michelle Mone?
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I don't rate Sugar as a great businessman anyway, his ideas are always the same, we've all heard his 'I don't like b*llshitters' stuff. Get some other successful people in to judge, it's not like the prize is even working for him anymore (which was always a farce).
What do you think? Second, would the show be better without Sugar? Doubtful. Richard Branson tried it and flopped. Most foreign Apprentice series have been relative failures, as you can see by looking at the series dates on this Wikipedia page: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Apprentice_(TV_series) Third, is there a problem with the prize? Here you have a major point. Lord Sugar is now semi-retired so does not have the range of businesses he used to, which is doubtless why the prize changed. Ideally, you'd want someone who always had a range of new projects into which the Apprentice winner could be slotted, but there are not many of those, and most are probably too busy to give up two or three months a year to be on telly. Doubtless that is why the prize changed but now it means we spend ten or so weeks watching The Apprentice to see which four will qualify for an unrelated final which owes more to Dragons Den. By the way, you could not just sack Lord Sugar and expect the rest to remain the same. Nick and Margaret, along with Claude and Bordan for the interviews, have been with Sugar since the 1980s (which also quashes another myth: that Sugar is a rogue dictator: how many others kept the same senior management team for 20 or 30 years?) Karren is the only outsider. |
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I actually think it could work quite well if Karren Brady was in charge. She really knows her stuff, and I think at times she is actually fairer than Sugar.
The only thing that could count against her is that she is a bit more middle-class than Sugar, and the fact that Sugar was born on a council estate and worked his way up is a part of the show really. "Sport Newspapers is the English publishing firm responsible for The Daily Sport, Sunday Sport and a number of mid-shelf and top shelf magazine titles such as Adult Sport, Sport Babes, Sport Reader's Wives and Ladsmag." [wikipedia] Sport Reader's Wives eh? Classy. And also the small matter that she lied on her CV to get her first job: "Brady's first job was working at Saatchi & Saatchi the advertising agency as a graduate trainee, even though she did not have a degree. In a Sunday Times Business Section profile she admitted that she had lied in her job application by stating that she did have a degree. Although she had started a degree course after A levels, she left without completing the degree. " [wikipedia] So, she lied on her CV, and was a Director at Sport newspapers, flogging topless women to white van men everywhere. Nice. |
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I actually love Al. I've been watching previous series of the Apprentice recently (never seen them before) and I feel he's been consistently great. I've also watched the Irish and Australian version, and I really feel they are missing something. Sugar is what makes the show special imo!
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I actually love Al. I've been watching previous series of the Apprentice recently (never seen them before) and I feel he's been consistently great. I've also watched the Irish and Australian version, and I really feel they are missing something. Sugar is what makes the show special imo!
I've watched a few episodes of the US version with Trump, but it wasn't the same, and didn't hold my interest. In addition to that, I can't stand Donald Trump. |
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No, great idea, we could hear about her early career at the Sunday Sport, that well known feminist rag, and other such publications:
"Sport Newspapers is the English publishing firm responsible for The Daily Sport, Sunday Sport and a number of mid-shelf and top shelf magazine titles such as Adult Sport, Sport Babes, Sport Reader's Wives and Ladsmag." [wikipedia] Sport Reader's Wives eh? Classy. And also the small matter that she lied on her CV to get her first job: "Brady's first job was working at Saatchi & Saatchi the advertising agency as a graduate trainee, even though she did not have a degree. In a Sunday Times Business Section profile she admitted that she had lied in her job application by stating that she did have a degree. Although she had started a degree course after A levels, she left without completing the degree. " [wikipedia] So, she lied on her CV, and was a Director at Sport newspapers, flogging topless women to white van men everywhere. Nice. Perhaps I'm in the minority, but I still love the show as it is and I still think that the best person for the job is LS. He has made mistakes on the show in the past, but ultimately, I don't feel as though there would be same interest if someone else took over. In many ways, he makes the show. I do think that he is genuinely smart and so much better than Trump (in terms of decisions - Trump's firings are often bizarre and without explanations) so I do think that he should continue. I'm not sure if I would watch again if he was axed. But that's just my opinion.
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