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Old 03-12-2012, 05:38
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Cheryl Cole

Raised on a council estate
Comes from a broken home
Was arrested and charged for the assault of a toilet attendant in 2003
Isn't really that good at singing
Isn't ever called a chav

Tulisa

Wasn't raised on a council estate
Hasn't been charged with assault
Is a better singer than Cheryl Cole (though she's by no means the best singer in the world)
Is constantly referred to as a chav, quite simply because she speaks with a London accent and is interested in the urban/hip hop genres of music.


It's really quite pathetic how people stereotype her. The "talentless chav" label fits Cheryl a whole lot better than it fits Tulisa, but nobody here ever said that about her.

Dismissing Tulisa as a chav, simply because your tiny minds jump to conclusions based on an accent .. that makes you no better than a racist or a homophobe.
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Old 03-12-2012, 05:51
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Cheryl Cole

Raised on a council estate
Comes from a broken home
Was arrested and charged for the assault of a toilet attendant in 2003
Isn't really that good at singing
Isn't ever called a chav

Tulisa

Wasn't raised on a council estate
Hasn't been charged with assault
Is a better singer than Cheryl Cole (though she's by no means the best singer in the world)
Is constantly referred to as a chav, quite simply because she speaks with a London accent and is interested in the urban/hip hop genres of music.


It's really quite pathetic how people stereotype her. The "talentless chav" label fits Cheryl a whole lot better than it fits Tulisa, but nobody here ever said that about her.

Dismissing Tulisa as a chav, simply because your tiny minds jump to conclusions based on an accent .. that makes you no better than a racist or a homophobe.
Didn't people call her a chav years ago?
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Old 03-12-2012, 06:11
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I never saw it. She speaks with a Newcastle accent so that label can't be as easily applied.

People are basically just idiots.
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Old 03-12-2012, 06:28
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I've never called either of them a chav. I think that word is thrown around far too often these days.
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Old 03-12-2012, 06:29
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People are basically just idiots.
you mean like someone who would compare this to racism or homophobia ?
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Old 03-12-2012, 06:44
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you mean like someone who would compare this to racism or homophobia ?
Oh look at you with your rolling eye smiley, all holier than thou.

It's comparable in the way that Tulisa cannot help the fact she speaks with a London accent and had to deal with a lot as a child. She's now a millionaire, pays more tax in a month than you earn in a year, yet nobody can look past the fact that she is a 'chav'. It's bigotry.
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Old 03-12-2012, 06:52
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care to explain why how much money she has makes any difference to whether people are right to describe her as a chav or not ?

and i think you need to look up the definition of the words irony and hypocrit after the way you are labelling other people in this thread

oh and btw

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Old 03-12-2012, 06:54
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Do you know the definition of a chav?
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Old 03-12-2012, 06:58
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yes

i dont think you do however if you think it has anything to do with money or that it is any any way comparable to racism or homophobia
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Old 03-12-2012, 07:00
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Where have you been....................people are always calling Cheryl a "talentless chav".
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Old 03-12-2012, 07:58
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Bit of an OTT statement to call the entire forum hypocrites isn't it?

If you can find a post where I've called either of them a chav, then good luck!

I much preferred Tulisa to Cheryl last year. Never got the overhyping of Mrs Cole just because she's got a pretty face. She was a useless judge and I can't remember hearing a constructive comment ever pass her lips.
Tulisas biggest problem, this year, for me is that she's appeared disinterested and like she's going through the motions.

I've always found it puzzling through that people with a regional South East accent are called 'chavs' and 'common' and yet anyone else with a regional accent isn't. Ignorance really.
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Old 03-12-2012, 08:04
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I never saw it. She speaks with a Newcastle accent so that label can't be as easily applied.
As someone who comes from Newcastle, all I can say is that you have obviously never been there. I now live in North London and trust me, Newcastle has bucket loads more chavs than London :P
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Old 03-12-2012, 08:12
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Cheryl Cole

Raised on a council estate
Comes from a broken home
Was arrested and charged for the assault of a toilet attendant in 2003
Isn't really that good at singing
Isn't ever called a chav

Tulisa

Wasn't raised on a council estate
Hasn't been charged with assault
Is a better singer than Cheryl Cole (though she's by no means the best singer in the world)
Is constantly referred to as a chav, quite simply because she speaks with a London accent and is interested in the urban/hip hop genres of music.


It's really quite pathetic how people stereotype her. The "talentless chav" label fits Cheryl a whole lot better than it fits Tulisa, but nobody here ever said that about her.

Dismissing Tulisa as a chav, simply because your tiny minds jump to conclusions based on an accent .. that makes you no better than a racist or a homophobe.
2 things wrong with this. First, as someone said above, Cheryl is always being referred to as a "talentless Chav", i'm not sure where you've been?

secondly, your issue doesn't appear to be this lazy labelling of working class girls who use whatever talent they have to improve their lives, you just want people to target the correct ones.


Besides, It's not the so called talentless chavs we should be worried about in society its all the talentless privileged who find themselves in positions they never earned through no talent of their own
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Old 03-12-2012, 09:06
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Tulisa calls herself a chav! Neither are chavs anymore but i do remember everyone calling Cheryl a chav when she was a judge
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Old 03-12-2012, 09:19
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I'm no hypocrite, they are both talentless.
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Old 03-12-2012, 09:21
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i hate both of them
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Old 03-12-2012, 09:28
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People always call Cheryl a chav, even though she isn't. Tulisa isn't either but plays up to the image because it's what her fanbase like.
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Old 03-12-2012, 09:31
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Why was this thread created? What a waste in thread space

I'm hitting the alert button, I'll do it, I will
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Old 03-12-2012, 09:46
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Tulisa

Is constantly referred to as a chav, quite simply because she speaks with a London accent and is interested in the urban/hip hop genres of music.
Really? I thought it was because she is related to the missing link, had a boyfriend named after a Star Trek prop, and was 'celebrated' all over the Interweb, gobbling her previous chap.
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Old 03-12-2012, 09:47
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Really? I thought it was because she worked with the missing link, had a boyfriend named after a Star Trek prop, and was 'celebrated' all over the Interweb, gobbling her previous chap.
Hahaha. Wonder what you could mean.
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Old 03-12-2012, 10:54
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they have the Xfactor, they don't have the voice. you people think as if talent is everything in this business
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Old 03-12-2012, 11:01
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whether you like them or their music, the plain fact is that both of them have worked extremely hard, been highly motivated, and made many sacrifices to get where they are today. when have hard work, motivation, and sacrifice been traits of the so-called chav?

It seems like snobbery and self-loathing come into play when I hear the term being bandied around at anyone who speaks with a regional accent and came from a council estate.
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Old 03-12-2012, 11:53
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The "talentless chav" label fits Cheryl a whole lot better than it fits Tulisa, but nobody here ever said that about her.
You don't read the forum much, do you?
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Old 03-12-2012, 12:04
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Cheryl Cole has 'the x factor'- Tulisa doesn't. Whilst Cheryl isn't the best singer, she never failed to put on a big show during her X Factor performances. Tulisa's performances on Britain's Got Talent and now X Factor have been terrible.

Tulisa was a direct replacement for Cheryl, both seeming a bit rough around the edges but being 'transformed' on the show into the nations sweetheart. She turned up at the first auditions looking dog rough, but by bootcamp she had new teeth and massive Hollywood hair. It worked for Cheryl, it didn't for Tulisa. Tulisa is a bit of a joke and ultimately will always be seen as a cheap Cheryl.
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Old 03-12-2012, 12:13
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Did you really just use "raised on a council estate" as a reason Cheryl is inferior to someone else? Disgusting. Makes YOU no better than a racist.
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