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Old 03-12-2012, 07:43
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Hi, so, as mentioned in The End of Time thread, I'm gonna take over the series threads until the last episode, then me and Daveyboy might cover the spin offs. I must admit I might be a little biased toward these episodes as series 5 is my favourite series and the 11th Doctor, well, he's everything I look for in a Doctor.But I do have several criticisms of a number of episodes, and the whole point is for others to comment on here, so it shouldnt be two 1-sided. So, here we go then, GERONIMO!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EpbmMhNe6aA

What can I say? I'm afraid I'm quite biased when it comes to series 5. I bloody love it, in my opinion it was the best Dr Who's ever been with Moffatt really showing just how good he can be, even if are a couple of dud episodes. This series has my favourite Doctor, my favourite companions, some of my favourite characters, my favourite scores, my favourite episodes (some wonderful standalone episodes as well as a multi-layered storyline that wasn't as simplistic as some of RTD's story arcs, but not as complex or convoluted as series 6). It got off to a great start with the maginficent "The Eleventh Hour" which, in my opinion, is still the best series opener yet (with the possible exception of the Impossible Astronaut). However (proof I'm not 100% biased!), I do have some criticisms, not really with it and what it is, but how the new Dr Who team went and did it.

A lot of series 5 was all about change. This story was directly after RTD's The End of Time where, not only had RTD and his team left so that Steven Moffat and his team could take over, but the 10th Doctors regeneration episode, where David Tennant had left, allowing the relatively unknown Matt Smith to take on the role of the Doctor. Moffatt brings in loads of new stuff, not just a new Doctor, but new companions, new monsters, reinvents old stuff, has a new TARDIS & new Daleks. It all loudly proclaims "yeah, Tennant+RTD's gone, get over it!" Now this isnt in itself a bad thing. Change is the reason the show has lasted so long rather than ending back in the 60's, to be forgotten. And I loved a lot of the changes. I've already said how this Doctor+companion(s) are my favourites and I LOVE the post 2010 TARDIS, it looks beautiful. I dont even think the new Daleks were that bad, just dont think they were used properly (more on that with my Victory of the Daleks review). And thats the thing. While I loved all of the rapid changes at the time (had got bored of Tennant after his long drawn out departure), I think some of them were all a bit sudden and quick for many fans liking. I mean, think about all the stuff thats going on in TEH. In one episode we have a new Doctor, new companion, new TARDIS, it's like Moffatt's so eager to make it clear this is his territory now, that RTD and Tennant are gone, that it's almost like he's just going "**** YOU!" to Tennant fans and saying "you must love my version of Who instantly!" rather than just saying "yes, it's a different actor but, despite what we learnt in the last episode, it's still the Doctor." And I think that, rather than any real hatred of Smith's 11th Doctor, or a refusal to accept Tennants gone, is why many didnt really take to series 5 and beyond. OK, so it's a given you'll need to introduce the new Doctor and companions in the 1st episode (which is done brilliantly, I'll get onto all that in a sec though) but I would question stuff like the new NEW Daleks, or the decision to kinda waste them anyway (again, more on that with Victory of the Daleks) or then immediately turn scaredy cat and hardly use them in later episodes, or, even more questionably, instantly redesigning the TARDIS. They have the TARDIS exploding in the finale, why not use that as an excuse for it having to be rebuilt (although maybe the destruction of the TARDIS in End of Time was RTD's idea, after all he wrote that scene)? And then theres the new titles which I do remember thinking were a bit rubbish at first. So although I love it, I can see why some might not like this episode.

However as someone who liked these changes, I absolutely adored TEH, and it does actually sound like most of the fanbase do enjoy it to, even if they dont enjoy the rest of the series. Certainly, it seems to be one of the most popular 11th Doctor stories, though I'm not so sure why so many seem to like this but dont really like the following series. Obviously this episode is very special and, with Moffatt giving his all, it really does have everything going for it. Of course, the highlights of the episode are the new Doctor and companion, the exhilarating ride where the new Doctor has to save the world in 20 mins with no TARDIS or sonic screwdriver, and the beautiful, but so sad tale of little Amelia Pond, the girl who waited. It is rather poignant watching this episode again, so soon after we saw Amy+Rory leave in the Angels take Manhatten. It was so clever, seeing little Amelia as an 8 year old, then suddenly jumping to her in the future, where we see what an effect that must have had on her. You wonder how many other child characters have been left waiting in the past. Of course Moffatt had done this before with The Girl in the Fireplace, but I never felt nearly as much sympathy for Reinette as I did for Amy. I just feel so sorry for her when the TARDIS leaves for the 2nd time and she just shuts her eyes. Amy herself is a really good character here.She has the best qualities of many different companions before her, she's independent, questioning, she's clever, on equal footing with the Doctor, she's fiery, tough, likeable, sympathetic, and, of course, VERY hot. I'm not gonna lie, that is a big reason why I like Amy so much, at least in series 5 9her character really grew in series 6). And hey, it's the same reason for companions like Leela being so popular. I remeber the police woman outfit was a big thing when this came out. I rather liked it. But at the end of the da, Amy is also a companion you can really sympathise with, who has gone through so much cos of the Doctor before even travelling with him properly and I bloody love her. Karen Gillan's a great actress as we'd see with future episodes like the girl who waited, but also here. Though what's up with her posh english accent, she sounds really weird!, But also, I really like the little girl who plays Amelia. She's amazing and I'm glad they brought her back in this and the next series. I will agree that, at times, she can be a bit unlikeable, and she's much better in series 6, but really, she has everything I'm looking for in a companion. She has a real sense of fun, she's very independent and can be quite bossy, a bit like Donna, she's loyal like Martha, and she is very attractive.

Rory of course also makes his debut here, and while he wasnt a companion proper here I really liked him from the off. I was a bit "oh no!" when we first met him and he seemed like just a Mickey replacement i.e. a bit of an idiot, but he'd soon grow to be much more the awkward idiot who couldnt hold a candle to the Doctor later on in this series, it becoming obvious the Amy/Rory relationship would be slightly more complicated with the reveal of the wedding dress at the end of this episode.
It's hard to talk about the actual plot etc, as it is basically all about the introduction of 11 and Amy which is one reason why I think this series opener gets it all so right. But the story is good with the final clever defeat of Prisoner Zero with the mobile etc. It does feel like a little bit of a run around at times, but a fun one and I like how much chaos the Doctor causes in this quiet country village thats so evocative of Pertwee's Who etc. Love the scene where the Doctors using the sonic screwdriver to attract the attention of the Atraxi and one old womans wheelchair just goes out of control, the woman screaming! As for the monsters, I dont think the Atraxi or Prisoner Zero are really that good, although the scenes with Amy in the old abandoned room prisoner Zero's been inhabiting are quite creepy. "And then it just jumped onto the table.." I love the guest characters, Jeffs brilliant ("Blimey, get girlfriend Jeff!... oh, and delete your internet history") and the Gran. And Patrick Moore's in it to! Good old Patrick. "Be careful, he's a devil!" Ha, I can believe that! "Who's your lady friend?"

But of course, the star of the show is Matt Smith as the Doctor. I was a bit unsure about Smith at first, I was one of those who thought he looked really young for the role (who'd have thought he'd actually be able to pull off playing an old guy, more on that in the Big Bang) and, in his first scenes at the end of The End of Time 2, I did think "oh no, he's just a copy of David Tennant." But he wasnt. I love how his Doctor's a bit awkward, a bit not quite there (love how, when he goes in Amelias room to look at the crack, he empties a glass of water, just half notices the water getting split, looks around confused, then promptly forgets it) and (obviously) old fashioned which also helps him pull off the old guy role. And, of course, accompanied by that iconic "I am the Doctor" theme we first heard here, he is a real bad ass, love how he calls the Atraxi back to Earth then promptly steals peoples clothes before going off to meet them.

I love the Doctor's costume, the tweed jackets brilliant and the sort of thing I'd like to wear, and, of course, bow ties are cool. Also, intereseting fact, the 3rd time the Doctors found his new costume in a hospital. And it goes without saying that Smith is really funny and he's a real comedian here. I'd say this was one of the funniest episodes in a while and he has lots of great lines and scenes here. The whole fish custard thing is kinda the obvious choice, but theres lots of other stuff e.g. when he walks into that tree (by the way, whatever happened to the Doctor being a veggie?) But yeah, loved 11 from the moment I saw him, though he didnt become my Doctor till that great scene on the hospital roof. That scene actaully makes this episode, and recaptures that sense of continuation we had with Parting of the Ways/Christmas Invasion and which was almost ruined by End of Time. The sense that yeah, this is a new Doctor, with new companions, he might be really young, but in the end it's the same guy. I remember seeing this for the first time, seeing loads of monsters from classic Who and NuWho, seeing all the classic series Doctor's, the 9th Doctor, 10, and then seeing 11 walk on and say "Hello, I'm the Doctor." I was just nodding and going "yes, yes you are." That was the scene that made me fall in love with 11, and is, I think, one of the most important scenes in the episode, as it just shows what this episode os all about, that although he's new etc, Matt Smith is playing the exact same guy Tennant played, and long may he be around.

Finally (I'll stop soon I promise, especially as I know a lot of you will be skim reading this by now), my 2nd favourite scene in this episode, the one which best sums up the whole episode itself, is not about the Doctor but Amy. I'm talking about the scene where Amy steps inside the TARDIS for the first time, and then we see the new TARDIS for the first time, and we have such beautiful music by Murray Gold, that is the scene which shows what this episode is all about. A new era of Dr Who, a new writer, a new Doctor, a new Companion, new everything, but in the end, the same old sense of wonder, of adventures to come. That scene just feels so magical. The plot might not be the best, but this episode makes clear it's entire purpose is to set up the next series, and you know what, it does it brilliantly. Well done Moffatt, and well done Matt Smith (the next few reviews wont be as sickeningly positive, I promise, I'm just very biased when it comes to this episode, it's the best)I do really think this episode is perfect.

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Old 03-12-2012, 07:50
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That was the last episode I actually enjoyed, I thought it was a great way to start 11's story,but for me it all went downhill from there I loved the way that characters were introduced in the village and thought it had great promise, but they were all forgotten about and the startt of an era that just doesnt catch my imagination started.
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Old 03-12-2012, 08:20
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I was so excited for Amy's 'home' life after this episode. The duck pond without any ducks, the post office which is shut, Jeff, Annette Crosbie..

How far we had seemingly come from the Powell Estate... but then we never went back to any of it beyond Amy's home. Such a waste.

Nevertheless, the start of an otherwise nice period of the show for me Most importantly the beginning of Matt Smith's tenure - brilliant from the moment he popped out of the TARDIS doors.
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Old 03-12-2012, 09:07
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I should probably state my Steven Moffat bias, Press Gang was an integral part of my childhood.

I love the Eleventh Hour. It's fun, larger than life and ambitious. While I did enjoy much of the RTD era it was time for change. Like most people I wasn't sure of Matt Smith when he started - personally I would have preferred his costar from Party Animals Andrew Buchan. But the fact that he worked with Billie Piper seemed like a good sign.

The Atraxi and prisoner zero were interesting. I'd love to have seen more of Annette and Jeff, they were certainly far more successful that Amy's parents.

But this was a wonderful start to a group of good friends.
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Old 03-12-2012, 09:16
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[b] Certainly, it seems to be one of the most popular 11th Doctor stories, though I'm not so sure why so many seem to like this but dont really like the following series. Obviously this episode is very special and, with Moffatt giving his all, it really does have everything going for it. Of course, the highlights of the episode are the new Doctor and companion, the exhilarating ride where the new Doctor has to save the world in 20 mins with no TARDIS or sonic screwdriver, and the beautiful, but so sad tale of little Amelia Pond, the girl who waited.
I think you answered your own question here. What makes this episode the best of the Series is the fact that it matches the frenetic pace of the RTD Era, but after this, the rest of it lacked any of the energy of this story which is one of the reasons I think Series 5 is the worst by far.

I agree Moffat did Series openers really well, 2 out of 3 them so far surpass anything we'd had before, (though Series 6 isn't that bad just not up to the quality of the other two)the problem is following them up with decent episodes to match.

As for the episode itself, it was great that Moffat didn't go with the established format of giving The Doctor a rest straight after his regeneration, something that hugely spoiled The Xmas Invasion by having Tennant missing for close on 40 minutes. Here we have The Doctor thrown straight into a New adventure and a plot to solve before he even realises who or what his Doctor is. Matt Smith is just simply superb as he would be all Series, shame he didn't get the stories to match after this.

Love all the fish custard and eating stuff, The Doctor walking into a tree was hilarious. Geoff and his laptop also funny. The Doctor showing of his new costume at the same time as we're properly introduced to his Doctor as he confronts the Atraxi and here you can see his Doctor is gonna be one to be reckoned with. And the episode also gets bonus points for having Karen Gillan in a Policewoman's outfit.

Have also noticed a few Moffatism's creeping in. The 'Why do people keep running off/not listen to me' thing from the Blitz 2-Parter of Series 1 and The Girl In The Fireplace are repeated when he's chained to the radiator. Plus the click to open the TARDIS thing as well from the Library story.

I did like the Crack in time arc storyline and the plotline with little Amelia. Gillan's cousin was a good choice, they really do look alike and you could believe they were the same person. Rory has a good introduction and Amy at this point is quite fresh and likeable. Liked the scene at the end with the Wedding dress and Amy hiding something prior to this, it was a neat setup for the rest of the Series.

Not quite so keen on the new TARDIS set as the previous one but it was okay. Liked how we were kept waiting to what the new set would be plus it's great to have the St.John's Ambulance thing back on the front panel.

The Eleventh Hour is only one of 4 high quality episodes we've had so far during Mofaft's Era imo. It's the last episode I actually looked forward to with some excitement. At the time I really thought the good times were ahead after watching this episode, especially after the tortuous Specials.

How wrong I was.......

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Old 03-12-2012, 10:04
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I loved it.

There was a very 'Avengers' feel about the story, which worked well, and a brilliant start by Matt Smith.

Must confess, I've found the whole Moffat era very hit and miss, with some outstanding stories sitting next to some truly awful ones.
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Old 03-12-2012, 11:04
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I went into The Eleventh hour, not with low expectations as such, but with an element of caution, As good a writer Stephen Moffat was, Matt was still an unknown quantity. As it turned out though, we had absolutely nothing to worry about.

Matt hits the ground running (no pun intended) and Amy is breath of a fresh air, a companion who immediately manages to be feisty, effortlessly funny and still a completely believable character - something that had been notably lacking in season 4.

It's a story that never drags, that's always entertaining and which quickly establishes Eleven as the Doc'. And it served as a taste of things to come.
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Old 03-12-2012, 14:16
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I seem to be in a minority when it comes to this episode. I thought Series 5 in general was pretty good (although there seemed to be a strange 'emptiness' to it which I still can't put my finger on), and The Pandorica Opens is one of my all-time favourite episodes.

But this episode just didn't work for me. Everything seemed very disjointed, and although the Atraxi and Prisoner Zero were well-designed, there didn't seem to be much of a threat; although the world would have been affected, everything seemed very contained in the weirdness that is Leadworth. I wasn't keen on the whole food-spitting stuff, and I thought the barking man was just silly.

Still, there are some aspects I liked in this episode. I thought meeting Amy as a young girl was a good idea, and how it affected her as she grew up. There were some great scenes, like the ladder through the window and calling the Atraxi back, and although I wasn't sure about Matt Smith by the end of this episode, I really like him now.
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Old 03-12-2012, 14:26
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I seem to be in a minority when it comes to this episode. I thought Series 5 in general was pretty good (although there seemed to be a strange 'emptiness' to it which I still can't put my finger on), and The Pandorica Opens is one of my all-time favourite episodes.

But this episode just didn't work for me. Everything seemed very disjointed, and although the Atraxi and Prisoner Zero were well-designed, there didn't seem to be much of a threat; although the world would have been affected, everything seemed very contained in the weirdness that is Leadworth. I wasn't keen on the whole food-spitting stuff, and I thought the barking man was just silly.

Still, there are some aspects I liked in this episode. I thought meeting Amy as a young girl was a good idea, and how it affected her as she grew up. There were some great scenes, like the ladder through the window and calling the Atraxi back, and although I wasn't sure about Matt Smith by the end of this episode, I really like him now.
YANA.

Didn't work for me, either.
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Old 03-12-2012, 15:10
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For me this is Moffat's crowning achievement. Sure, he has done scarier, more exciting, more timey-wimey...but nothing as consistently brilliant as this hour. It was so majestic in its execution that it was easy to forget just what a task this was and how badly it could have gone. But he knocked it out of the park.
Also, for someone renowned for their sometimes convoluted and complex plotting he kept things remarkably simple here. Classic Doctor Who in every possible way.
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Old 03-12-2012, 16:20
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Love the food tasting scene "fish fingers and custard" a classic comedy moment. Then there is the moment Amy yells "Why did you say 5 minutes!". 11 realises the cute 7 year old he left behind has grown up into a 19 year old kissogram. MS shows all the things he will need to be the doctor. Thought S5 was good and the 3 best episodes of S6 were TDW,AGMGTW and TGWW. But we will get to that later.
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Old 03-12-2012, 16:26
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I thought Matt Smith was great in this but that's pretty much the only good thing I can say about it. The idea of a house with an extra door that no one can see is a great Moffat idea but then he throws it away with the Earth in jeopardy stuff. Olivia Coleman is wasted, neither Amy or Rory are appealing in anyway and I know people love it but the whole fish fingers and custard bit is to me the most childish and cringeworthy the series has been since farting bins in Rose.

In many ways this sums up the Moffat era for me - love Matt but find everything else about it pretty unsatisfying.
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Old 03-12-2012, 16:41
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I thought Matt Smith was great in this but that's pretty much the only good thing I can say about it. The idea of a house with an extra door that no one can see is a great Moffat idea but then he throws it away with the Earth in jeopardy stuff. Olivia Coleman is wasted, neither Amy or Rory are appealing in anyway and I know people love it but the whole fish fingers and custard bit is to me the most childish and cringeworthy the series has been since farting bins in Rose.

In many ways this sums up the Moffat era for me - love Matt but find everything else about it pretty unsatisfying.
Well I could add a lot to that list, especially the farting slitheen, end of journeys end, whole of love and monsters, talking rhinos...etc lol

I do love the episode btw, even if the cgi wasn't that good, it would have been better if we never saw prisoners zeros true form,leaving it up to our own imagination. The whole of series 5 was great, much better than the previous 2 seasons as Moffat really shined in it even if some of it was a bit hit and miss, it was still great and none of the episodes were awful unlike some previously
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Old 03-12-2012, 17:28
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Loved it. The fresh energy in the story just sparks!
As well as all the good things others have already mentioned, this comedy moment with young Amy:

"You're Scottish, fry something!"

Brilliant!
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Old 03-12-2012, 17:51
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I liked this episode. Like many, my favorite scene was the 'Hello, I'm the Doctor' scene. I felt the same way I did when Tennant said 'It is DEFENDED' back in TCI, In that this is where it was cemented that this was the same Doctor I'd been watching for the past year (bear in mind that I hadn't seen any Classic Who at the time). I felt the same way when Smith said the above line.
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Old 03-12-2012, 18:00
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Matt Smith announces himself in style! Matt is absolutely sensational as the Doctor here, establishing himself in his first scene and then romping through the episode like a maniac, culminating in that fantastic scene where he sends the Atraxi packing. And he's not the only one on fire here. Karen Gillan is a revelation as Amy Pond and I think that this episode has among the best Amy/Doctor connections, in that they both off each other brilliantly and crackle at the heart of the story. Throw in a new sonic, a new TARDIS and a good central storyline, this episode had you forgetting what had come previously and had you looking forward to series 5. Geronimo!
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Old 03-12-2012, 18:18
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I was still grieving ten at this point (my defense is I was a broken heated 15 year old fangirl at this point. There not the most rational creatures ) and my sister forced to me watch it. Hated it at the time, hated 11, hated Amy etc...

The hateyness continued for about half the series, and then something clicked, went back and watched it again and loved it to peices. Once I liked Matt it really worked, and Amy's character grew on me, though I still wasn't big on her leaving her fiance like that. It was also the whole stairs thing that drew me onto the forums, (still think there was something up about them )
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Old 03-12-2012, 18:33
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There was a real coldness to this episode. After all the trailers of the magical storytelling promised it felt flat and foriegn. Was so dissapointed with the launch of the new series, felt so different to the previous series. The best thing about the episode is Matt who bounds across the with a wonderful alien charm but amy is cold and wooden and gives matt nothing to play off. I loved the fact that Karen had been cast but was disapointed with her performance I'm afraid and the series needed some kind of link to series four I feel even if that were just to keep the theme and titles while we adjusted to the new writer. He threw everything away. The Tardis looked better though, loved the new look. The story wasn't very good. A worrying beginning to what had become such a great programme again. Viewing back today my opinion has changed somewhat but at the time was too big a jump.
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Old 03-12-2012, 22:58
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I'm afraid one of my main memories of this story was the excessive volume of the music compared to the dialogue. With my dad (who can't tolerate loud music) being there, I had to constantly turn the volume down for music and up for dialogue, and this ended up being the focus of my concentration rather than enjoying the story.

A pity, because I think it might have been good.
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Old 03-12-2012, 23:00
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Wonderful reboot episode where nothing is the same and everything is the same. Two moments absolutely sell it to me; the scene where Amy and The Doctor connect while she has his tie trapped in the car door ( a real "Turn Left" moment) and the "I am the Doctor" scene at the end - this serves more than any moment in Nu-Who to connect the Doctor to all of his antecedents. The "costume" and Tardis exterior again make the link to classic early "Who". This is "old school". The ghost of Troughton once more haunts the Tardis and Amy is very much an "Unearthly Child". The basic monster is rather bland, but the episode is drench on the mythology of "Who". A bravura performance from Smith engages the audience immediately. He IS the Doctor. Oh, and Karen Gillan becomes the companion who defines our new Doctor, and Amy is a complicated piece of work. The madman in a box is back!
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Old 04-12-2012, 09:20
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I liked a lot of this episode. Loved Matt right from the beginning. Loved the interaction between the Doctor and Amelia, including and especially the fish custard. I like a bit of childishness in my Doctor.

Wasn't so keen on the adult Amy - she was a bit harsh, but I put that down to her disappointment in childhood. I loved Rory - I was so glad when he later played a big part in proceedings.

Prisoner Zero seemed a bit odd - why would he hang around in Amy's house for so long? Why bother forming a psychic bond with coma patients? What was it all about? And why did the Doctor accept the Atraxi's word for it that Prisoner Zero should be killed? He didn't even try to find out what PZ had done to deserve it.

I liked the village and it's inhabitants, and was sorry not to see them again.

It was a typical Moffat story - whizz on from one thing to another, and never mind if it makes much sense.

Also - nice idea having the Doctor meet Amelia as a child, then as an adult. But it's been done before, and miles better, in Moff's first DW story, The Girl in the Fireplace.
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Old 04-12-2012, 10:28
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Without a doubt the best of the revived series openers. There's so much I like about The Eleventh Hour just for its own merits. The setting, the tone, the music, the humour. But ultimately it is Matt's 'hit the ground running' attitude towards the Doctor. The Doctor, even though post-regeneration, is the nuts and bolts of this story, unlike with Tennant's debut, The Christmas Invasion.

I also like this episode because it reminds me of my classic series favourites like Spearhead From Space. In fact there are many similarities in location, village, hospital, any alien force controlling a 'drone' on Earth, that I think they must be somewhat deliberate. Even if they are not, and its just me fantasizing, it works for me.
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Old 05-12-2012, 00:15
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After the 4th series, it had high expectations to live up and it did not deliver for me I am afraid. I have the complete opposite opinion of series 5 in that I thought it was the worst season ever. I thought TEH was overly childish and just silly although it did have it's good bits. Examples of where it got overly childish was the fish fingers and custard bit. I don't understand how that is funny in the slightest, although it gives much insight into what Matt Smiths doctor is going to be like. Also, the thing with the firetruck at the end of the episode was too much.

I don't think the villain was overly creative but that isn't a complaint, I don't want things to get over complicated on the first episode of the series, especially with all the knew characters that we will be meeting.

The crack in the wall confused me to no end due to later episodes explaining what is actually was. I don't understand how prisoner zero escaped through the crack if the cracks were erasing time there. Also, I believe in the Big Bang it states that the universe had already peetered out and that where the pandorica was, was just the final bits of existence left. How can that be if there was a crack in space in time so close?

The resolution seemed very convenient but this happens quite a lot in Doctor who so I will let that slide. Probably my least favorite series opener although it faces competition with "Rose". I don't think it is a bad episode, I just think it was maybe overdone a bit and felt like too much.
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And Patrick Moore's in it to! Good old Patrick. "Be careful, he's a devil!" Ha, I can believe that! "Who's your lady friend?"
He's dead! Sir Patrick Moore's dead! Cant believe it, true legend. R.I.P.
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