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Even Charlie Knows Kiki Won It For Her
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FlaviaCacake
03-12-2012
Originally Posted by vald:
“I've always said that Ashley needs men around her to be happy. She loves all the flirting and turning men on. She had male viewers eating out of her hand and drooling over her every move, she could not walk across the camp without swinging her butt and flashing her teeth. She had no time for the women in there, this is a man's woman,one of the boys.

Left alone with Charlie she was lost, without a man around she didn't know how to act and you could see the disappointment in her face. I'm not knocking her BTW, some women are just like this, they define themselves completely by the effect they have on men and thrive on the power they have over them.
The photos of her at the wrap party show her surrounded by men, not a woman in sight. The headlines....who got to sh*g Ashley.”

You make a number of assumptions in this post that you cannot possibly substantiate and you seem to make those assumptions simply because Ashley's is physically attractive.

You say Ash had no time for the women yet she gave Helen beauty and make up tips, showed genuine interest in Rosemary's 20 year drought and was supportive to Charlie regarding not seeing Kiki.

Ash's fellow Doll Kimberly Wyatt, stated on NOW that Ashley was one of the more girly Dolls so how do you come to your sweeping conclusions?
vald
03-12-2012
Originally Posted by FlaviaCacake:
“You make a number of assumptions in this post that you cannot possibly substantiate and you seem to make those assumptions simply because Ashley's is physically attractive.

You say Ash had no time for the women yet she gave Helen beauty and make up tips, showed genuine interest in Rosemary's 20 year drought and was supportive to Charlie regarding not seeing Kiki.

Ash's fellow Doll Kimberly Wyatt, stated on NOW that Ashley was one of the more girly Dolls so how do you come to your sweeping conclusions?”

Again silly...nothing to do with her looks. Helen and Charlie are just as attractive. I have been observing these people for three weeks and there is no doubt in my mind that Ashley prefers the company of men. I never said that she ignored the women completely, of course she had to speak to them occasionally and I never said that there was anything wrong with it.
Her best friend was Hugo, she loved being with David, and when they both left she made the best of being left with Charlie, but she lost her spark.
PinkPetunia
03-12-2012
Originally Posted by vald:
“Don't be so daft. Just because I recognize her as being the sort of woman who prefers being around men, you accuse me of hating women. She's a lovely girl who prefers the company of men, it's not a critisism just a fact (IMO).”

Dont be so daft , its not a fact at all .Its your opinion nothing more
FlaviaCacake
03-12-2012
Originally Posted by vald:
“Again silly...nothing to do with her looks. Helen and Charlie are just as attractive. I have been observing these people for three weeks and there is no doubt in my mind that Ashley prefers the company of men. I never said that she ignored the women completely, of course she had to speak to them occasionally and I never said that there was anything wrong with it.
Her best friend was Hugo, she loved being with David, and when they both left she made the best of being left with Charlie, but she lost her spark.”

More amazing assumptions.

BTW Helen is no where near as attractive as Ashley. Not physically or personality wise.

From what I saw the conclusion I came to was - Her best friend was Hugo because they started out at Snake Rock together and Hugo was the only person in the group who was roughly her age. But if you say its because she prefers men and only tolerates women because she has to then who am I to argue?
lucy mane
03-12-2012
Going by her instagram pictures most of her friends are women.
http://d3j5vwomefv46c.cloudfront.net...neLZZXJJKQSD4_
http://instagram.com/p/LBI5P0LOlx/
http://instagram.com/p/J4e2mnrOvy/
Magpie11
03-12-2012
Originally Posted by lucy mane:
“Going by her instagram pictures most of her friends are women.”

All the other PCD's seem to adore her.

But no we've been told as fact :- 'without a man around her she doesn't know how to act' and 'she defines herself completely by the effect she has on men'
Unigal07
03-12-2012
Originally Posted by vald:
“I've always said that Ashley needs men around her to be happy. She loves all the flirting and turning men on. She had male viewers eating out of her hand and drooling over her every move, she could not walk across the camp without swinging her butt and flashing her teeth. She had no time for the women in there, this is a man's woman,one of the boys.

Left alone with Charlie she was lost, without a man around she didn't know how to act and you could see the disappointment in her face. I'm not knocking her BTW, some women are just like this, they define themselves completely by the effect they have on men and thrive on the power they have over them.
The photos of her at the wrap party show her surrounded by men, not a woman in sight. The headlines....who got to sh*g Ashley.”

Absolutely ridiculous. She and Charlie seemed very fond of each other, she also seemed to have a bit of a girlie relationship with Helen and got on like a house on fire with Rosemary most of the time. Hugo was probably her best mate there, but just because he's a bloke, doesn't mean anything. She and Charlie seemed to be very good friends.

I'd say you're seeing things that just aren't there. So she's a pretty girl who looks good. Doesn't mean she's only happy around men etc. Charlie probably spoke about sex etc just as much as Ashley did - and she's got a young daughter who was watching!
Stockingfiller
03-12-2012
Ashley seems too attractive and bright to need, to flirt with men as if her life depended on it. As a woman I've noticed through life that women who feel secure about themselves ie their looks and / or their personalities ..it doesn't matter which, tend to not, be the desperate attention seekers. They're popular with men -and with women too, as friends.
jkimble123456
03-12-2012
Maybe Ashley appeared to spend more time with Hugo and David because they were all of a similar age. I know Charlie is also a similar age but all she ever talked about was Kiki so that would have gotten tiresome.
Stockingfiller
03-12-2012
Originally Posted by jkimble123456:
“Maybe Ashley appeared to spend more time with Hugo and David because they were all of a similar age. I know Charlie is also a similar age but all she ever talked about was Kiki so that would have gotten tiresome.”

Also, their thought processes were faster. They picked up more quickly on communicating and humour. I think that Ashley had more in common with them on a mental level. They were also more physically confident and had more energy. So Ashley had more in common with them in that way too.
Department_S
03-12-2012
Originally Posted by essexboyash:
“She was a favourite from the moment they all entered. Why do people whine just because their favourite didnt win? It makes u look immature and petty

I wanted Charlie to win from the start, before Kiki was introduced into any of the tasks, she wasnt my winner through pitty

Some people seriously need to get over the fact that she won”

Really? From the start? Based on her EastEnders persona or the way she supped that drink under the tent on the beach? I must admit I didn't form an opinion of any of them from at least day 3.
yellowlabbie
03-12-2012
Originally Posted by lucy mane:
“Going by her instagram pictures most of her friends are women.
http://d3j5vwomefv46c.cloudfront.net...neLZZXJJKQSD4_
http://instagram.com/p/LBI5P0LOlx/
http://instagram.com/p/J4e2mnrOvy/”

Her best mate is a bloke.
lucy mane
03-12-2012
Originally Posted by yellowlabbie:
“Her best mate is a bloke.”

Going by her instagram pictures MOST of her friends are women.
http://d3j5vwomefv46c.cloudfront.net...neLZZXJJKQSD4_
http://instagram.com/p/LBI5P0LOlx/
http://instagram.com/p/J4e2mnrOvy/
yellowlabbie
03-12-2012
Originally Posted by lucy mane:
“Going by her instagram pictures MOST of her friends are women.
http://d3j5vwomefv46c.cloudfront.net...neLZZXJJKQSD4_
http://instagram.com/p/LBI5P0LOlx/
http://instagram.com/p/J4e2mnrOvy/”

Well it was a bloke who was out there supporting her.
lucy mane
03-12-2012
Originally Posted by yellowlabbie:
“Well it was a bloke who was out there supporting her.”

What world do you live in? Women can have male and female friends. The poster implied she only hangs out with men. Which is untrue. Give it a rest.
yellowlabbie
03-12-2012
Originally Posted by lucy mane:
“What world do you live in? Women can have male and female friends. The poster implied she only hangs out with men. Which is untrue. Give it a rest.”

I'll say what I like. I'm fed up with this forum putting Charlie down and as soon as you make a comment about Ashley you get told to 'give it a rest'

I stated that her best friend was a man, there is nothing wrong with having men friends.
lucy mane
03-12-2012
Originally Posted by yellowlabbie:
“I'll say what I like. I'm fed up with this forum putting Charlie down and as soon as you make a comment about Ashley you get told to 'give it a rest'

I stated that her best friend was a man, there is nothing wrong with having men friends.”

So you are putting Ashley down for that reason?
yellowlabbie
03-12-2012
Originally Posted by lucy mane:
“So you are putting Ashley down for that reason?”

I am not putting her down, I spoke the truth, her best friend who was supporting her was a man. That's not putting her down, it's a fact.
lucy mane
03-12-2012
Originally Posted by yellowlabbie:
“I am not putting her down, I spoke the truth, her best friend who was supporting her was a man. That's not putting her down, it's a fact.”

So that makes her a woman hater? lol.
yellowlabbie
03-12-2012
Originally Posted by lucy mane:
“So that makes her a woman hater? lol.”

Did I say that?
PinkPetunia
03-12-2012
Originally Posted by yellowlabbie:
“I am not putting her down, I spoke the truth, her best friend who was supporting her was a man. That's not putting her down, it's a fact.”

bla bla bla bla , you are making statements when you have no evidence to back it up .One male friend is not proof of anything at all .
I think I will listen the facts spoken by people who know her and not by some random TV viewer who does not .
yellowlabbie
03-12-2012
Originally Posted by PinkPetunia:
“bla bla bla bla , you are making statements when you have no evidence to back it up .One male friend is not proof of anything at all .”

bla bla bla bla, it was said everywhere that he was her best friend, people on here posted links of his twitter etc. It's what suits with Ashley fans.
PinkPetunia
03-12-2012
Originally Posted by yellowlabbie:
“bla bla bla bla, it was said everywhere that he was her best friend, people on here posted links of his twitter etc. It's what suits with Ashley fans.”

So what ? So that means she has no time for women .You are looking so silly now .Give it a rest .,
yellowlabbie
03-12-2012
Originally Posted by PinkPetunia:
“So what ? So that means she has no time for women .You are looking so silly now .Give it a rest .,”

I have not said this, you are making it up, it is you who look silly. I only said that her best friend was a man. You have completely changed what I said to suit your own ends.
vald
03-12-2012
Originally Posted by lucy mane:
“So that makes her a woman hater? lol.”

That's a bit of a stretch from what I said. She likes hanging out with the boys, that's not a critisism, she just likes their company. There's nothing wrong with liking male company or having a bit of flirt. She is a single lady and can do what she wants.
When she went in one of her female friends said that she would have the men falling at her feet and she wasn't wrong.

It really isn't a big deal.
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