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We've seen that there is more than one CIA. Maybe the 'black-ops' people aren't too keen for CCTV footage to appear. But then someone was keen for Brody's suicide vid to appear ...
I think Dana is a very clever character - the only remotely sane, undamaged, even moral person, yet her age and experience makes her uncertain. |
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I really enjoyed the last half hour or so. It was slow going up to then, and I kept thinking something must be going to happen, or there won't be much to go on for another series.
Wasn't expecting that car bomb though, right up to the moment they realised the car had been moved I didn't see it coming. There are so many questions now going into S3 - who released the video? Who moved the car? What is Saul's involvement? (I really want him to be one of the good guys). Where's Quinn and was he involved? What going to happen between Carrie and Brody? Great end to the series, can't wait for the next one |
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Can someone just please confirm for me, are we meant to presume that the explosion got Galvez?
Cack exit for him if so, after surviving what he survived. |
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I really enjoyed the last half hour or so. It was slow going up to then, and I kept thinking something must be going to happen, or there won't be much to go on for another series.
Wasn't expecting that car bomb though, right up to the moment they realised the car had been moved I didn't see it coming. There are so many questions now going into S3 - who released the video? Who moved the car? What is Saul's involvement? (I really want him to be one of the good guys). Where's Quinn and was he involved? What going to happen between Carrie and Brody? Great end to the series, can't wait for the next one |
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If Brody was the one behind the bombing at Langley, why didn't HE have an escape route set up? No, it was Carrie who had that organised. That is why I am not sure that Brody was the bomber. Also, wouldn't they have CCTV overlooking the car park where Brody put his car? Surely that didn't get blown up in the explosion. If it is OK there will be footage of whoever moved the car.
However its worth letting them get away with their unrealistic stuff as it was a jaw dropping scene, and a great episode - yes Season 2 has been a bit up and down, but they did save the best episode for last. |
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..hey she's a teenager who has killed someone..
thinking ahead, i suppose if they do string it out to a 4th season, I suppose the big cliffhanger ending of S3 will be that Carrie finds evidence that it was Brody after all and that, in fact, he is actually really Nazir's number two in the organisation and has been all along. I know it will likely mean that any Season 4 will be a re-hash of Season 1 with Carrie being the only one who can see it (and, no doubt, being bug eyed and psychotic even more..) but I can't really think of any other directions they can go in. |
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Can someone just please confirm for me, are we meant to presume that the explosion got Galvez?
Cack exit for him if so, after surviving what he survived.
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Still thinking back to Carrie at the service seated at one end of the room but anxiously looking back and across at Brody, eye signals between them then a nod from him, after which she quickly got up followed by him? For what reason ? Surely not just for a quick snog ?
There's no conspiracy here. Turns out that she wanted to tell him her choice which was that she wanted to be with him plus make out. Lucky for Nick, (I mean Brody ) leaving the service saved their lives.
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Strange that Carrie felt the need for a backup plan to escape at some point from the CIA.
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I can't imagine how this can go on for 2-3 more series, however. It's going to turn into that series years ago in America ("The Fugitive") where a man was on the run, trying to prove his innocence when framed by "the one-armed man".....
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I can't imagine how this can go on for 2-3 more series, however. It's going to turn into that series years ago in America ("The Fugitive") where a man was on the run, trying to prove his innocence when framed by "the one-armed man".....
The third season looks like it'll be the opposite of the first - everyone convinced of Brody's guilt except Carrie, who will strive to prove his innocence, with the viewer given just enough to not know either way. |
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Yes, where did she get all that money???
I suppose it's feasible as well in real life. I can certainly imagine agents needing to make rapid escapes in certain situations so fake documentation would be a necessity. |
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I thought that was a film starring Harrison Ford & Tommy Lee Jones.
![]() That took four years, so I suppose that Brody could go on the run for an equal length of time..... |
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I thought that was a film starring Harrison Ford & Tommy Lee Jones.
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you could always go a bit left-field and have Brody "turn" Carrie. He could use her psychosis to convince her the government are planning to kill him even though he's innocent and so she needs to help him strike back at them to "protect" him. she lied to cover up the murder of the VP, so it could certainly be feasible .. but "out there" as well ..
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Season 3 is set up to be like The Fugitive or Prison Break season 2.
Brody being pursued by Quinn through various states and countries. Why does Carrie call Nicholas by his second name Brody? |
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Why does Carrie call Nicholas by his second name Brody? |
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An average season ended with an average closer.
It was like 60 minutes of family drama before anything happened as we watched his rather pointless family. The who Dana sub-plot was pointless as Walden died. Agents Quinn's mysterious daughter wasn't even bothered with so was another red herring. Various plot craters left unanswered as usual. Season 3 looks be Brody on the run while a fish eyed Carrie tries to prove his innocence. Hopefully we'll less of Dana as another of her teenage strop is just getting tedious. At least Apple for some screen time with Saul's Iphone and his Ipad. |
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well the first bit wasn't very good , that agent suddenly deciding he won't kill for Estes was so convenient , but then the second half was brilliant , wasn't expecting that ! after the relentless anti-climax at the end of the first season this one suddenly has a whopper , plus the suicide bomber tape was brought back in to create even more havoc .
I was wondering how on earth they were gonna keep this going but now they have lots of stuff to deal with . |
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Big explosion
Carrie - Don't move you SOB. Brody - wasn't me Carrie - Ok then that's fine More brilliant work by our bug-eyed agent. |
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Big explosion
Carrie - Don't move you SOB. Brody - wasn't me Carrie - Ok then that's fine More brilliant work by our bug-eyed agent. as the worst secret agent on US TV. And let's see-she's going to work at the CIA again despite letting the most-wanted man on Earth get away? |
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Well for the first 45 minutes of that episode I was as bored as hell and wondering why on earth they bothered showing it...then bang!
Wasn't expecting that. And Claire Danes really needs to ease up on the wide-eyed loon appearance. She's beginning to look like Margaret Thatcher's Spitting Image puppet. |
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The more I think about that last episode, the more impressive it seems. Just spent half an hour discussing it with Mrs Noiseboy and all the directions it could go in - ergo, it worked. And given how very average the previous few eps were, that's pretty impressive.
The basic premise of series 2 - as Alex Hansa says in the podcast here - http://www.grantland.com/blog/hollyw...eason-2-finale - was pimrarily about the relationship between Carrie and Brodie. It's a pretty simple dilemma - agent falls in love with suspect and is thus conflicted - but good fodder for drama. I really like the structure of the last ep, with that very slow burn beginning - pretty much no-one saw it coming. And such a good set up for 3, with Brody, Saul or neither all plausible suspects. And I really can't wait for the scene between Dana and Carrie. Back in the fold. |
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i think saul will get quinn to head up a team to hunt brody, and quinn will be like carrie from the opening credits ( blaming herself for not stopping an attack and won't let it happen again )
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Big explosion
Carrie - Don't move you SOB. Brody - wasn't me Carrie - Ok then that's fine More brilliant work by our bug-eyed agent. Agent in Charge - Carrie, stand down. Do not go in. Carrie - I'm going in Agent in charge - Oh ok then |
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Lucky for Nick, (I mean Brody
) leaving the service saved their lives.