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Old 03-12-2012, 21:52
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I don't get why someone talking to Quinns ex makes him run off to a clandestine meeting with one of the CIA's top men.
Because no one is supposed to know that "Quinn" has an ex and a kid, especially someone allegedly from the IRS but who happens to look just like Saul...


Oh and wasn't he fortunate that Dara whatever his names was car was off the road and he had caught the bus home at the very same time he was looking for him

Or it was a pre-arranged method of contact that the black ops guy used after having been given a signal somehow by Quinn...
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Old 03-12-2012, 22:42
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I presume that he realised that his cover as an analyst was blown? He was going to kill Brody if Nasir had been captured I guess to avoid having to prosecute Brody
So Quinn realised his cover is blown which in other words means Saul had people investigating and he goes and meet his boss so that can be revealed too? Uhmm...Smart

I thought that the bus meeting was already arranged but maybe not
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Old 04-12-2012, 10:18
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I felt like the authorities were 'playing with fire' by not cancelling the event, it seemed that they were more interested in catching Nazir & his cell than ensuring the safety of the people attending the event.
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Old 04-12-2012, 10:28
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They were certainly playing a dangerous game. Their track record when it comes to surprising and capturing Nazir has just been awful. But there are sure to be no problems with so many lives at stake.... right?
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Old 04-12-2012, 10:29
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I just remembered something else that confused me in last night's episode - when Brody went into that shop (or whatever it was) and asked for a payphone, they said there wasn't one, so he asked to borrow a cellphone and I thought that was what he did, but then Carrie said the call had come from the Baltimore area code. Surely a cellphone wouldn't have an area code for a particular city? Or do they work differently in the USA?
They do mobile phone numbers different in America. In the UK, all mobile phone numbers start with "07", but in the USA, the mobile phone numbers look exactly the same as a fixed phone number. I.e, they have an area code that represents a location (usually the bill payer's home).

One advantage is that it costs the same to call a mobile as it does to call a fixed line (no way for the caller to know what type of phone they are dialing). The disadvantage is that the owner of the mobile phone has to pay for incoming calls (someone has to pay the mobile "premium"!).

Of the many plot holes, this wasn't one of them.
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Old 04-12-2012, 13:38
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I felt like the authorities were 'playing with fire' by not cancelling the event, it seemed that they were more interested in catching Nazir & his cell than ensuring the safety of the people attending the event.
I still wonder whether Estes actually wants the VP dead. It might explain a lot.
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Old 04-12-2012, 13:51
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I felt like the authorities were 'playing with fire' by not cancelling the event, it seemed that they were more interested in catching Nazir & his cell than ensuring the safety of the people attending the event.
They didn't need to cancel it because they were intercepting the terrorist team before the event. Didn't Estes even say to the VP that they'd do their thing before the VP ever set out for the event so if something had gone wrong that morning they could still have cancelled.
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Old 04-12-2012, 14:16
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They do mobile phone numbers different in America. In the UK, all mobile phone numbers start with "07", but in the USA, the mobile phone numbers look exactly the same as a fixed phone number. I.e, they have an area code that represents a location (usually the bill payer's home).

One advantage is that it costs the same to call a mobile as it does to call a fixed line (no way for the caller to know what type of phone they are dialing). The disadvantage is that the owner of the mobile phone has to pay for incoming calls (someone has to pay the mobile "premium"!).

Of the many plot holes, this wasn't one of them.
Thanks for the info.
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Old 05-12-2012, 01:14
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Umm not to sound stupid, but at the end of the episode when Quinn is picking Brody up and he get's his gun out to shoot him, but then stands down. Why would they want to kill Brody if he has helped capture Nazir?
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Old 05-12-2012, 01:19
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Umm not to sound stupid, but at the end of the episode when Quinn is picking Brody up and he get's his gun out to shoot him, but then stands down. Why would they want to kill Brody if he has helped capture Nazir?
Because he had served his purpose and they didn't want him turning into a liability (very possible given his somewhat fragile state).

That's my guess at the moment anyway.
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Old 05-12-2012, 01:36
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Because he had served his purpose and they didn't want him turning into a liability (very possible given his somewhat fragile state).

That's my guess at the moment anyway.
Ahh ok, thanks
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Old 05-12-2012, 18:42
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Or it was a pre-arranged method of contact that the black ops guy used after having been given a signal somehow by Quinn...
Lucky he's always within 5 minutes of the bus, unless it's a circular and he just travels round and round the same route waiting for a contact
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Old 05-12-2012, 23:08
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I presume that he realised that his cover as an analyst was blown? He was going to kill Brody if Nasir had been captured I guess to avoid having to prosecute Brody
Umm not to sound stupid, but at the end of the episode when Quinn is picking Brody up and he get's his gun out to shoot him, but then stands down. Why would they want to kill Brody if he has helped capture Nazir?
It would be much easier for the govt for Brody to be killed when he is no longer useful, were the fact that he was a terrorist agent made public it would be a PR disaster, in particular for the VP and Estes (who'd initially debriefed and let Brody loose when he was originally freed) and who is also hoping that the VP will advance his career. I think that was why, when Saul let Estes see the video Brody made, Estes decided to place a special ops operative on the case.
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Old 06-12-2012, 10:16
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Why would they want to kill Brody if he has helped capture Nazir?
Damage limitation... tying up of loose ends. And if Brody isn't there to defend himself, he can continue to be a (now dead) hero... or a convenient fall guy depending how things pan out with a terrorist attack.

On the other hand, Brody may know something that black ops guy on bus doesn't want revealed. It's a twisty-turny show.

I'm sure Brody has no long-term future in politics, though.
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Old 06-12-2012, 13:23
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What bugged me most about that scene is how he knew Carrie's number off by heart. I don't know about anyone else, but while I know my own number, I'd struggle to remember anyone else's.
But you aren't a CIA asset with a handler*. He would have had her number drilled into him so that he could contact her at any time, any place.

* Well, I'm assuming you're not a CIA asset
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Old 06-12-2012, 13:29
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But you aren't a CIA asset with a handler*. He would have had her number drilled into him so that he could contact her at any time, any place.

* Well, I'm assuming you're not a CIA asset
Fair point. And of course not.

*Whistle's nonchalantly*
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Old 06-12-2012, 22:18
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Have only just caught up with this week's episode and loved it. Great pace and plenty of intrigue.

I too was a bit confused about what happened at the end with Estes, Quinn and Brody until reading the comments here.

I "think" that even though Brody is holding some things back, he is on the side of the CIA and Nazir's group know that and are using him to give the CIA false info.
Or he could really still be on Nazir's side. I love that it still manages to keep us guessing.

Wonder where Brody's allegiances will lie when he realises the CIA planned to kill him once they got Nazir.
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Old 07-12-2012, 10:36
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I "think" that even though Brody is holding some things back, he is on the side of the CIA and Nazir's group know that and are using him to give the CIA false info.
Seems unlikely, Nazir's munitions guy was killed at the failed bombing of the homecoming soldiers, I know Nazir wasn't there himself (did anyone except Carrie really think he would be?) but if he knew it was a set up would he really have sent one of his key men to his death?



Wonder where Brody's allegiances will lie when he realises the CIA planned to kill him once they got Nazir.
He'll be furious until he gets laid again and then it'll all be alright
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Old 07-12-2012, 11:14
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I can't quite remember the exact ending. Did we see the home coming parade? Could this all have been a distraction away from a real attempt? I can't remember where they said the home coming would be, was it an airfield? Possibly the airfield which could be viewed from the original sniper vantage point from the 1st series?

I'm probably well off the mark here but my memory is very poor!
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Old 07-12-2012, 11:15
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I guess we'll be seeing more of Dar Adal next week - since they have F. Murray Abraham to play him (and I've never trusted him since he poisoned Mozart.)
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Old 07-12-2012, 20:51
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Just a wee bit of fun here, could Dar Adal be getting set up to be a major player in the 3rd series, as in him, Quinn and Estes may be involved with dealing in dark places with the likes of Abu Nazir,
Estes is pally with Roya and happily left the room for Brody to get into his files
Quinn took one in the gut when everyone else got killed,
Saul didn't appear to be to complimentary towards Dar Adal.
I need to buy some head n shoulders to get rid of the tinfoil in my hair
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Old 08-12-2012, 16:39
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Has it ever been revealed who was the mole in the first series who gave the suicide pill?

I had my money on Saul to start with after the prayer mat scene, but after the polygraph it all became too obvious a red herring.
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Old 09-12-2012, 21:02
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Anyone else watching?
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Old 09-12-2012, 21:05
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Anyone else watching?
I am
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Old 09-12-2012, 21:07
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Watcha!

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