Hear Hear!! Well done indeed!

Pleased that they cleared up again even though I didn't think Season 2 was as stunning as the first one.They still deserved to win in each category as their competition wasn't particularly strong this year.

Fantastic, what a hat-trick indeed! I knew about Damian's award (he dedicated it to his late mother), and the Best Drama but didn't know about Claire - thoroughly well deserved.

In other news, I read yesterday that S3E1 will air on 29 September in the US, so hopefully Ch4 will be a week behind, same deal as last season.

boring s2,finale was attrocious

Didnt watch Homeland, but watched Damien Lewis in Life, its brilliant and gutted there is no 3rd series.

He deserved his award though he is a brilliant actor.

Well, those of us who did enjoy it obviously hold a different opinion to yourself.

At least you won't need to bother with Season 3 now.

Indeed. Or, one hopes, this thread.

And - re the Golden Globes - when the Homeland cast and producers / director/s went up on stage, I laughed when I saw Abu Nazir (actor Navid Negahban) in the group. Just a bit of a what?? moment...

Interesting article here... not just about Homeland but Islamophobia in recent drama...

Don't know why this season earned such reward at the globes.

The first season was written with a view that no further commission may result and maintained writing standards. The second was truly forgettable until the last half an hour. Even then it was totally unrealistic how in such short time the presumed massive device could be planted safely in a parked car in the secure CIA car park without a direct swap of identical vehicles with licence plates.

The crappy love story which destroyed the credibility and nonsense that a crazed discredited ex employee could run the whole anti terrorism element with defiance and hunches is as draft as she played it.

It seems some of the criticism has got home despite the luvvies fawning over the show. They know it will go from height to obscurity and decommissioning without serious thought and understand rewriting is underway for next season.

How they go on with Brody without some totally implausible storyline is their biggest problem and the loss of Estes, whose character was under used and undermined, which really doesn't happen in such high office.

Don't have such impatience for the next season, but will be pleased to be intrigued and enthralled once more, if they get back to the like of the first.

I was wondering why they made such a big deal about the teen romance and Dana being tormented about 'doing the right thing.'

Then it occured to me that Dana has seen Brody at his Muslim prayers, knows about the suicide vest and for those reasons I think she will have a much bigger part to play next season. And just as Abu Nazir's child died, I have a bad feeling about the eventual fate of Dana...........

err obviously you havea different opinion, pretty darn obvious

this isnt an appreiciation thread, why are you acting like i have hurt your feeligns or something?

and i will give s3 a watcha ctually to see if it can get back to s1 quality, although the fact they keep brody in when his chaarcter is no longer needed makes me think it could go the same way as s2

The bomb was put into Brody's 4x4 some time before he drove it into the CIA car park. One possibility is around the time when Brody was kidnapped in the chopper. Or even when he left his car at the car wash for valeting after he had killed the tailor in the woods.

Question is did Brody know his car was a bomb - ie was he in on the whole plot. Or was he used by Nazir and knew nothing of the car bomb.

How do you know this? I haven't seen anything to demonstrate this and given he didn't know what was hidden in the tailors, although having collected his vest, it could be assumed it would be explosive!

He may have been conspiring in between shagging Carrie noisily, but the script suggests he was complicit
with the good guys and had severed his ties to the terrorists.

As you say rigging the bomb in the CIA car park seems impractical. As does swapping out Brody's car with one they prepared earlier. The most logical theory is that it was rigged to explode well beforehand. When it was done is open to question. Two possibilities are when Brody was kidnapped. And when they went to the log cabin. They drove there in Carrie's car. That's if Brody wasn't in on the plan. If he was then it could have been done any time really. Off screen.

Either way Brody didn't rig the bomb. He just drove it to the memorial service.

That was Nazir's plan all along. Kill the Veep, give up the news van plot as a feint, Nazir is killed, CIA thinks game over, hold memorial service for the Veep, all the bigwigs attend, security relaxed, Brody's car bomb goes off. So the car bomb was always the end game for Nazir. It makes sense it was prepared earlier - a lot earlier.

I made a comment on this thread a while back saying I thought Damian Lewis looked a bit like Steve Mcqueen especially around the mouth. I was very quickly squashed by a fellow poster who said words to the effect of 'rubbish'...looks nothing like him.
Well I feel slightly vindicated after reading an article in the Mail today about Damian and he was referred to as the new Steve Mcqueen.

Please could somebody fill in the gaps at the end of the season finale.
Just to explain, I have been watching 4od on my ipad, but have increasingly been getting problems of lost internet connection, episode starting again at the beginning, etc. I have managed to see up to the point when the family has seen the old suicide video on TV, Dana is in her room, car draws up outside, she closes the curtains, Carrie and Brody are on the run, she has just said they are nearing the border, best to cross on foot.
I don't know how much more there is, my ipad is so messed up. Heartily sick of it, but only 2 days left until even 4od ends.
I have even looked on youtube, and seen Saul saying prayers in a morgue filled with bodies all lined up. What more do I need to know please?

In case anyone cares (!) I have finally managed to see the last few minutes,and have also read the synopsis on imdb.

I thought the explosion scene and story was brilliantly done. Can honestly say I did not see that coming. Roll on season 3.

Hi melrose Mum glad you managed to view the last minutes
This topic is pretty dead
I am amaised how little talking about this show comparing to say... Cheers, something that has been gone for centuries...

The topic is dead because the programme is dead. Two series was one series too many in the opinion of many. It may live on as yet another never-ending US action-drama-soap but it will be a different programme.

Or because its 8 months until it returns?

I done a big back to back Homeland session about 2 weeks ago and what can i say but this show is amazing!

Damian Lewis has now become my new fav actor i though his performance was unbelievable he managed to give Brody so many layers and even though what he was doing made him the shows villain i couldn't help but root for him and feel sorry for him!

Claire Danes also turned out some great show stealing performances her journey through out the show was an interesting one to watch i quite liked her change in direction with regards to Brody but i did think that came to quick but that's a minor criticism!

But after i finished i checked out online opinion and was stunned to see that season 2 didnt go down well! That season had me jumping all over the place i was gripped from start to finish which i didnt feel like with season 1!

And while i loved the first season i did find it quite boring compared to season 2!

The show also had a great supporting characters like Saul, David, Virgil, Nazir and The Brody Family characters that can compliment the two main ones and bring out different and more exciting and to the heart aspects of their characters!

All in all i cant wait for Season 3 the Season 2 cliffhanger was amazing and hopefully they can keep this up!

S3 will be a "reset" of sorts but we do know Brody will be back. My worry is that will stretch credibilty to keep weaving him into the story. Of course it all depends how he "comes back".

Just in case anyone hasn't seen this - Homeland Season 1 in 8-Bit RPG form. Very clever

http://www.collegehumor.com/video/6867017/homeland-rpg

If you like Damian I highly recommend you get a hold of "Band of Brothers". It's a series based on WW2 (think Saving Private Ryan, only better and across several episodes) and he was the main character. Brilliant series. Harrowing at times. But brilliant. Damian put in an oscar worthy performance imho.


Hmm I seem to recall another series that used to "reboot" on a regular basis.. usually involving a new CTU & a new head of CTU. Sadly I fear this is the direction Homeland is going in. It risks becoming the 'new 24'.. some feel it's already there. Which is a shame because I felt S1 was brilliant, raw and actually quite believable at times. S2 was stretching things and I fear S3 will just be complete fantasy.

I'm watching a boxed set of series 1 as I didn't see it first time round.

Does anyone know if the American viewers had exactly the same scenes - particularly the nudity and sex?

Usually the yanks are a bit straight-laced about such things and edit it out......

I think as it airs on cable in the U.S then they are able to get away with more.