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Homeland on Ch4 (UK Pace) - No Spoilers! (Part 2) |
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Now for the next few hours the 2 threads are at the same pace. Go there and see how much better the discussion is.
No thanks. Think i'll stick with this one. |
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So, as per usual, nothing changed from the start to the end of this episode.
Back to the slow burn, dull as dishwater padding. |
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Considering that the last time we saw Brodie he was heading for Canada, how on earth has he ended up in South America?
Daft. And what is with the daughter's very variable command of English?
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So, as per usual, nothing changed from the start to the end of this episode.
Back to the slow burn, dull as dishwater padding. Bet you never read a book? Because you really don't have the patience to get into the storyline. |
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Thank you! I was wondering this, too; I thought I was going mad.
I don't mind this season's slow pace, but what hell has Brody got himself into? So far, so where is all this heading. The daughter looked old enough to be the dad's girlfriend. Well, to me she does ![]() |
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I am confused as to why the people holding Brody are not on the phone to the US authorities in order to claim the $10 million, I can only assume that it would be dangerous for them to do so seeing as they're criminals themselves, & are waiting for a 'safe' time when they can 'cash him in'.
I'm surprised to learn that there are mosques in Latin America. |
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I am confused as to why the people holding Brody are not on the phone to the US authorities in order to claim the $10 million, I can only assume that it would be dangerous for them to do so seeing as they're criminals themselves, & are waiting for a 'safe' time when they can 'cash him in'.
I'm surprised to learn that there are mosques in Latin America. |
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Worst homeland episode ever by a long way. The criminals are cartoon characters and unbelievable.
Also if the police were told Brody was in that Muslim's house - would they really only send two officers round to collect him, considering he is the most wanted man in the world? |
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Worst homeland episode ever by a long way. The criminals are cartoon characters and unbelievable.
Also if the police were told Brody was in that Muslim's house - would they really only send two officers round to collect him, considering he is the most wanted man in the world? |
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Worst homeland episode ever by a long way. The criminals are cartoon characters and unbelievable.
Also if the police were told Brody was in that Muslim's house - would they really only send two officers round to collect him, considering he is the most wanted man in the world? |
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I can understand why so many people seem to dislike this episode - there's no action, it's almost all about Brody
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Worst homeland episode ever by a long way. The criminals are cartoon characters and unbelievable.
Also if the police were told Brody was in that Muslim's house - would they really only send two officers round to collect him, considering he is the most wanted man in the world? It would have been more believable if the police weren't involved and they just shot the imam and his wife dead to get brody back. The CIA have eyes and ears everywhere. Brodys prints willingness be everywhere. As notoriously corrupt as Latin American police are I can't just see this being swept under the carpet. Every episode we are being asked to put more and more reality aside. The previous two series you couldn't really pick apart, this series has so many holes in the plot. |
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What do you people want ? It's only episode three !
Bet you never read a book? Because you really don't have the patience to get into the storyline. I thought it was an excellent trippy (appropriate) very dark episode on both Brody's and Carrie's side. I like the more natural pace of this show. |
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Any more episodes like this and Homeland gets dropped from my series link.
There was so much wrong, from the creepy peado doctor, to the cliché of the ruthless Latin gang members via the total lack of credibility of the situation. But did there have to be a gorgeous young woman on hand to fall in love with our hero? It was like Star Trek where every week on a different planet there would be a beautiful girl for Captain Kirk. |
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What do you people want ? It's only episode three !
Bet you never read a book? Because you really don't have the patience to get into the storyline. This was a very dark episode, but far from "boring" on "uninteresting" if you're invested in the characters. I thought both Damian Lewis and Claire Danes were excellent in this episode. |
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It's back to the slow burn intrigue of Season 1
It's just drifting along with far too much filler. There has been a marked lack of character development (apart from Saul seemingly having had a complete character transplant). |
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I don't understand those who say that this was a particularly "dark" episode. The Claire Danes sub-plot showed her gradually recovering from a low point and getting her wits about her
Brodie began badly injured, but we had no doubt that he would survive. For most of the episode his rescuers/captors leave him free to walk about, no chains or locked doors, and they even return to him his passport and money to help him if he were to run away. Five cruel deaths, but that is not a particularly high body count for this series. And even when he finally was locked up he was given heroin for recreation. And to cheer him up there just happened to be a drop-dead gorgeous woman on hand to mop his brow while he taught her English. Fortunately for Brodie she did not have a boyfriend (?) or any other friends and family in her life apart from a group of ruthless criminals, so she wanted to risk her life and run away with him although she believed him to be terrorist with a $10 million price on his head. |
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I enjoyed it. I like the slow pace and the fact that not everything is explained (e.g. what the Venuzuelans want, how they know Carrie).
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Yes. If one has the attention span of a housefly which seems to be a major problem these days with so many younger people then I can fully understand. We had an episode mainly featuring Brody before in s1.when he stayed at Abu Nazir's house, and that was one of the best episodes.
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Do they know Carrie? Or only that Brody is continually asking to call her. And he has been asking why they are holding him. I think the doctor and the boy is perhaps a healthier relationship than we are supposed to be made to think at first sight.
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I am confused as to why the people holding Brody are not on the phone to the US authorities in order to claim the $10 million, I can only assume that it would be dangerous for them to do so seeing as they're criminals themselves, & are waiting for a 'safe' time when they can 'cash him in'.
I'm surprised to learn that there are mosques in Latin America. |
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I think the show is still a reasonable decent drama but it seems to have lost its whole raison d'etre. The point of the show initially was the ambiguity of the characters: was Brody a hero or a terrorist? Was Carrie a genius or a mental case? To be fair the answers to those questions weren't clear cut, but we do have answers. There just isn't any mystery left about those characters.
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Do they know Carrie? Or only that Brody is continually asking to call her. And he has been asking why they are holding him. I think the doctor and the boy is perhaps a healthier relationship than we are supposed to be made to think at first sight.
I agree about the relationship between the doctor and the boy, It's probably not as dubious as it appeared. |
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I am in two minds about this series so far
I agree to a point about it still being early in the series and giving it a chance to develop but in truth we are 3 shows in, which is a quarter of the way through the season, and I still have zero idea what the main plotline is all its really been so far is still picking up the pieces from last series |
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